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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 12:55 PM Do they tend to drift away? I have noticed I don't have any life long friends who are mutable signs... Do you share this experience as well? IP: Logged
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 3101 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 13, 2013 01:57 PM quote: Originally posted by theunknown: Do they tend to drift away? I have noticed I don't have any life long friends who are mutable signs... Do you share this experience as well? Maybe…I'm a mutable virgo with pisces moon and virgo mars, and it's like 35% of my chart I don't have life long friends, I have some very old friends, but it's true I tend to drift away with time:/ I noticed this many years ago and I've tried really hard to keep my best friends, but it's very hard for me for some reason… it's like I just get bored, irritated with people after a while, even though there is NO reason:/ It's like our friendship loses it's fire and it become a bit too routine and boring - I feel I'm responsible for the boring part, though… Would like to know more about how you can counteract on this traits? IP: Logged
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012	posted November 13, 2013 01:58 PM quote: Originally posted by theunknown: Do they tend to drift away? I have noticed I don't have any life long friends who are mutable signs... Do you share this experience as well? No. They tend to last and last even if they feel like they lead nowhere. IP: Logged
hannaramaa unregistered	posted November 13, 2013 02:07 PM Have to agree with SSS, Then again, I have a lot of Gemini in my chart, along with Pisces influences. My longest friend is a Virgo with a Sag moon, Venus in Libra, Mars in Virgo. Another friend of mine who's pretty loyal is a Pisces Sun. And another has Pisces moon. What energy is your chart made up? Can't remember if you said in your initial post or not. IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 03:11 PM @next to neptune: would love to hear from you! @SSS and Hanna: I have mostly fixed and cardinal but I have a stellium in 9th so I tend to attract sags and gems. I like them but things never last. IP: Logged
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012	posted November 13, 2013 03:12 PM quote: Originally posted by theunknown: @SSS and Hanna: I have mostly fixed and cardinal but I have a stellium in 9th so I tend to attract sags and gems. I like them but things never last. You can have some of mine. IP: Logged
Kerosene unregistered	posted November 13, 2013 03:59 PM Friends come and go out of my life. I usually enjoy the time I spend with them and I'm fine if they move on to other destinations. One of my best friends got married after a few years after high school and we don't talk that much anymore. Idk I'm kinda busy.. and she has her own **** . We text on occasion. If we met up today I'm not sure how she would feel about me, I probably look and act differently but my opinion about her would never change even if she is probably domesticated and boring lol. Which is the nice thing about mutable signs, we're so flexible. IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 04:59 PM I think friends come and go for everyone. My observation is that most of my mutable friends seem to just be with me because it is their flexibility at the moment and then they just drift off, even we have not changed that much. They don't respond to me reaching out to them either even though at some point they swear I am their close friend. A sag I know bluntly stated that she is "good at moving on from people" and myself and another Taurus were somewhat put off, even though I have very strong Uranus influence. Based on the responses in this thread alone, it seems mutable signs become long time friends with each other and maybe it is just my fixity that's off. IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 9926 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 05:06 PM Fixed signs are better off with other Fixed signs, at least in terms of friendship, I think. They tend to stick to each other and are quite loyal, and aren't fond of change. Mutable signs (with the exception of maybe Virgo) tend to not get too attached and can easily let go of friends. I can be that way myself and I have a Gemini rising. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted November 13, 2013 05:18 PM Next year my best friend and me will have been friends for 25 years. She`s a Virgo, I am a Sag. I tend to have very long friendships, once they exceed the 18 months-mark. I don`t know why 18 months, but I weirdly noticed that either by that time they fizzle out and totally disappear from my life, or become an integral part of it. IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 9926 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 06:20 PM ^ Ceri, you have a Fixed Moon, you don't count. IP: Logged
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Registered: May 2009	posted November 13, 2013 09:42 PM I have tons of long term friendships, and my chart is 75% mutable. I have more close mutable friends than the other two types, but my longest running friends have been fixed signs (and one cardinal sign). I think though, that is because I was friends with more fixed signs when I was young, but am currently friends with more mutables. I do think it depends on the mutable sign and their own view of friendship (and other relationships) in general. I would say that mutable signs are often more comfortable than the other modalities with letting people slip in and out of their lives. Many of the mutable friends I've kept have been due to the fact that I continually reached out to them in the beginning and eventually it became comfortable to them, and they felt that my friendship was valuable. IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 13, 2013 09:52 PM ^^^ i reach out to them and they just stop responding to me. And the only thing between us is the fact that we have not talked to each other or seen each other for a while. IP: Logged
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 737 From: Registered: May 2009	posted November 13, 2013 10:06 PM ^^^ Hmm... I've known all of the mutable signs to do that at some point (I was going to say that Gems and Saggys do it more frequently, but then I started to think about it and realized that's not true- I've had Pisces and Virgos do it just as much). I do think that, in general, mutable signs are particular about who they keep around them since they frequently feel misunderstood. If there is something about your personality that doesn't jive with theirs, they may not tell you about it (because mutables are generally very live and let live types) and just wander off if they feel like it is something you can't be/won't be receptive to... Then again, it literally may have nothing to do with you. Mutables get distracted fairly easily by all the activities they have going on in their lives. Sometimes they get bored and move on. IP: Logged
Odette Knowflake Posts: 6833 From: Registered: May 2012	posted November 13, 2013 10:08 PM This is funny because the only life-long friends I do have are mutable - Pisces and Gemini. They drift in and out, but we always keep in touch somehow lol I like this drifting thing! I like people I see only every so often.. who I'm still good friends with. IP: Logged
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012	posted November 13, 2013 10:28 PM Aries are pretty independent. IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 14, 2013 12:04 AM Then mutable signs' definition of friends does not include being there for one another? This drifting thing isn't just in and out. I think Aqua tend to disappear and come back but mutable signs sometimes just drifted completely. And it doesn't make sense. I get the idea that Fixed signs are vengeful. Mutable signs just float away without a concrete reason? I'd expect people to communicate something about being misunderstood or lack of compatability ...When I see these people again, they still act like they are happy to see me, which is confusing. It's really frustrating because friends mean a lot to me. IP: Logged
DeepFreeze unregistered	posted November 14, 2013 01:45 AM My longest friendships are all with Mutable signs. Well two of the mutable signs anyway. IP: Logged
mercuryflow Knowflake Posts: 260 From: oregon Registered: Nov 2013	posted November 14, 2013 01:53 AM i h IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted November 14, 2013 06:05 AM mercuryflow, Thank you for putting it so nicely. I can understand the mutable energy a little bit more now. Maybe you can help me understand my mutable friends a little bit more: In the past two years, my friendships with mutable tend to go with the first phrase being mutable reaching out to me. Then both of us kinda get along and text each other more often. Then life happens, so we slow down on he frequency of our texts. Then I reach out to mutable and ask how the person is doing. Then mutable never responds back, so I think it's them needing self-time, so I won't text again until a few weeks later and ask again if he/she is well. Then mutable person ignores me again and now I'm left wondering if I did something wrong IP: Logged
mercuryflow Knowflake Posts: 260 From: oregon Registered: Nov 2013	posted November 14, 2013 01:57 PM hmmm….it's really hard to say, without knowing them and the dynamic that exists. they could be feeling like they just don't have time to respond. or they could be not wanting to for other reasons. i really don't know. i do recommend not taking it personally though. even if in their eyes you did do something that bothered them. if that is the case, their lack of communication about it, probably means it's totally minor and just something that they want space from, without wanting to make you feel bad about it. goodluck! IP: Logged
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1852 From: Registered: Aug 2012	posted November 14, 2013 04:42 PM My best friend of almost 16 years is a Pisces Sun and ASC. I'm a Pisces Sun/Leo ASC. We've both done our drifting, but we always come back to each other to play I think that the problem with fixed/cardinal signs trying to interpret this is that they see us leaving as a permanent thing. Not understanding the nature of a wanderer. No one friend or one group of friends has ever sufficed for me. Or my bestie, for that matter. I think that's why we get on so well, we understand that "see ya later" doesn't mean "goodbye" even if later is 2 months down the road. Oh, and we don't get jealous or upset over what the other has been doing in our time apart. Eta: For example I have a friend who's almost all entirely fixed/cardinal with only his ASC/Neptune in mutable signs. Every time I don't see him for a week or two he berates me about what I've been doing and why I haven't been to see him. His girlfriend, who is another of my lifelong friends, does the same thing. It's obnoxious to tell you the truth. Why worry about why I wasn't here when you can just be happy that I am here now.. I've never understood that. IP: Logged
LovelyKitty Knowflake Posts: 617 From: ~Cosmic Wanderer ~ Registered: Jun 2012	posted November 15, 2013 04:48 AM For me it's quite hard to stay an active friendship with the one who's not longer near me. - when I move to another college ,My closed friends are from that college. - when in university , I hang out with friend from there. I stay with current friends - when I work , friends that always keep in touch are from university and work place. Friends from high school, I hardly met again. But we will have a reunion soon ,this will for sure a bizzare moment to begin with after we're seperate many years. I don't know is this call "a short time friendship?" My astro data Fixed : leo venus, scorpio -mercury /mars Cardinal : cancer moon, libra sun Mutable : AC IP: Logged
mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 468 From: Vega Registered: Aug 2010	posted November 15, 2013 08:16 PM I'm a Virgo, and my best friend of about 2 decades is a Pisces. Another good friend of about a decade is a Scorpio. Then again Scorpio falls in my 3rd house. But I have to say, I find it really easy to let people go, but just as easy to pick things up again as if we saw each other just yesterday. Mutability is distractibility. IP: Logged
Violets unregistered	posted November 15, 2013 09:44 PM quote: Originally posted by Odette: They drift in and out, but we always keep in touch somehow lol I like this drifting thing! I like people I see only every so often.. who I'm still good friends with. ^This. I'm a Pisces with Virgo Moon. My best friend is a Libra with Sag AC, and we have been close since kindergarten. We're going on 34 years together, but we don't live in the same area anymore, and we live very different lives. But when it counts, we're still around for each other, still laugh a lot. I have a few other friends that are similar, one I've been with since high school. We don't see much of each other (due to distance, living our lives, etc) but we keep in touch and see each other when we can. I used to have a ton of Virgo friends, but I've noticed that in all of those friendships, one of us has, at some point, decided to just sort of leave the picture. Otherwise, I don't have many Gemini or Pisces friends, although there are a couple of Sags I've known for a while that I have similar friendships with. But yes, I will drift out of people's lives if it seems like we're moving in different directions (i.e. away from each other). IP: Logged

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