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NeptunianSag
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posted November 14, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn square Venus with both Saturn and Venus in the 4th house IMO, you will never feel at ease in social situations and never feel loved.

I have the conjunct of this but i can't imagine it with the square, the planets are cruel.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 14, 2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will be alright ((( )))

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posted November 14, 2013 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has Venus in the 11th square Saturn in the 9th

It probably gets better with age.
I wouldn't peg her as socially awkward, yet she does not seems to care what others think at this point in life.

At the same time she has Venus trine Uranus so it probably loosens her up.
Personally Venus/uranus natives are really cool and cutting edge from my experience.

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posted November 14, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Saturn square Venus with both Saturn and Venus in the 4th house IMO, you will never feel at ease in social situations and never feel loved.

I have the conjunct of this but i can't imagine it with the square, the planets are cruel.


I am not understanding you. How can Saturn square Venus and be both in the same house?

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posted November 14, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Saturn square Venus with both Saturn and Venus in the 4th house IMO, you will never feel at ease in social situations and never feel loved.

I have the conjunct of this but i can't imagine it with the square, the planets are cruel.


I am not understanding you. How can Saturn square Venus and be both in the same house?

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Kerosene
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posted November 14, 2013 06:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think she has venus conjunct saturn but referring to venus square saturn as an even more diffcult

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posted November 14, 2013 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must be living under a rock. The opposition doesn't bother me much. But I also have Saturn conjunct Uranus. And Venus opp Neptune as well. I probably just don't know what's going on.

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Delilah423
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posted November 14, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn conjunct Venus and Sun and opposite Moon, and my Venus is quintile Uranus.

I can verify that it was a lot harder when I was in my 20s and 30s. Now that I'm nearing Social Security age, I kind of like it. I dunno if I'm cool and cutting edge, but I'm pretty sure I'm not stodgy.

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posted November 14, 2013 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus opp Pluto in the 6th..making it difficult to meet a partner to marry...

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posted November 14, 2013 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square uranus (Moon in libra, uranus in Capricorn) while also having a Stellium in Scorpio (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto), Sun opposite Ascendant.. That hard moon-uranus aspect causes so many problems for me when it comes to relationships. On one end, I just want to settle in a happy, passionate, loving, and stable relationship UNTIL that moon-uranus kicks in.. THEN I start to get restless, unsatisfied, and bored. It's really frustrating. I also always seem to attract the noncommital types because of that aspect. I do value and want commitment, but I want freedom and passion too. The problem is, the guys I attract want too much freedom so I always end up chasing them and being left hurt and unfulfilled in the end. It's getting better as I get older though.. I'm learning to love myself more and work on the root cause of this aspect which will eventually help me in the long run.

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charlie
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posted November 14, 2013 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon opposite Sun, Venus, mercury, Saturn, Ceres

Moon sq Pluto

Sun sq Pluto

Moon ssquare mars

Sun ssquare mars

Ascendant ssquare moon

Ascendant ssquare sun

Lilith in Aries 8H is no joke....just saying

Footnote: I ate too much sushi and want to throw up

And also: I'm a double fire dragon (double Aries) Lotta energy to channel and it all goes to wrong things

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posted November 14, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All aspects are opportunities to grow, learn and work through
I don't like to say one is worse than any other but if I had to choose it would be negative aspects from personal planets, sun, moon to Pluto.
Those can be very difficult for people to work through and there can be a lot of fear, these people have often been traumatized by circumstances where they were humiliated, intimidated, perhaps tortured, and felt as if they had no power. Pluto situations can mean either reforming the psyche entirely from the trauma or be totally obliterated.

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posted November 14, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conjunct Venus, IMO.

I have this conjunction exact in Libra in the 2nd House.
Also the Virgo Sun conjuncts both Venus in Libra and Chiron in Libra.

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posted November 15, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square or opposite Pluto.

I got the square myself.


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Sun: Cancer -9th house
Moon: Gemini -9th house
Mercury: Cancer -9th house
Venus: Gemini -9th house
Mars: Virgo -12th house
Jupiter: Virgo -11th house
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posted November 15, 2013 02:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus semi-square mars...
critical..
What I desire conflicts with the type of lover I want and need...
I'm just learning to settle for good enough, not the best.

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posted November 15, 2013 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
All aspects are opportunities to grow, learn and work through
I don't like to say one is worse than any other but if I had to choose it would be negative aspects from personal planets, sun, moon to Pluto.
Those can be very difficult for people to work through and there can be a lot of fear, these people have often been traumatized by circumstances where they were humiliated, intimidated, perhaps tortured, and felt as if they had no power. Pluto situations can mean either reforming the psyche entirely from the trauma or be totally obliterated.

Agree, I think hard pluto aspects to the personal planets are the worst, though I don't have them myself… but I always get a little afraid of people with these aspects, cause they seem so vengeful and jealous

I think saturn and uranus hard aspects to the personal planets can be a b**** too

Especially mars square saturn, cause it makes some kind of action-block(unable to move forward in life)
And Moon square uranus (unable to keep friends or lovers if not facing the problem with this aspect)
And sun/moon square saturn - very low self confidence, always picking one self down again, unable to feel good without worrying

These are hard aspect in youth, with time I think the most people learns how to solve them, or they probably get crazy at some point…

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Yanmorg
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posted November 15, 2013 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square Saturn or Moon square Uranus in my opinion.

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[/B][/QUOTE]I think saturn and uranus hard aspects to the personal planets can be a b**** too

Especially mars square saturn, cause it makes some kind of action-block(unable to move forward in life)
And Moon square uranus (unable to keep friends or lovers if not facing the problem with this aspect)
And sun/moon square saturn - very low self confidence, always picking one self down again, unable to feel good without worrying

These are hard aspect in youth, with time I think the most people learns how to solve them, or they probably get crazy at some point… [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes you couldn't have said it better. I just wish I knew what was causing that Moon-Uranus aspect. My parents are married and I have great relationships with both parents. It could be that my dad has been in and out of the home since I was a baby because he's in the army.

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posted November 15, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
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I think saturn and uranus hard aspects to the personal planets can be a b**** too

Especially mars square saturn, cause it makes some kind of action-block(unable to move forward in life)
And Moon square uranus (unable to keep friends or lovers if not facing the problem with this aspect)
And sun/moon square saturn - very low self confidence, always picking one self down again, unable to feel good without worrying

These are hard aspect in youth, with time I think the most people learns how to solve them, or they probably get crazy at some point… [/QUOTE]

Yes you couldn't have said it better. I just wish I knew what was causing that Moon-Uranus aspect. My parents are married and I have great relationships with both parents. It could be that my dad has been in and out of the home since I was a baby because he's in the army.

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Maybe you just had an unconventional or unstable childhood? But I guess it depends on the rest of the chart too, if this is your only bad uranus aspect, or if you have good venus/good houses you probably escaped the worst

But me noooo… I have sun/moon/mars square uranus and mars and lilith in 4th house….*sighs* I'll probably never get a family
I also even have the moon/mars square saturn, but it's a wide orb…but it's still there in the background and I can feel it oh so much

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posted November 15, 2013 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
Sun square Saturn or Moon square Uranus in my opinion.

Sun Square Saturn (tight orb) is rough. I think it is the hardest aspect for me.

I have moon opp. uranus (although not square). This doesn't feel as bad. Especially when I am with Aqua moons or people with the same aspect.

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posted November 15, 2013 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Saturn in the twelfth house. I have this

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posted November 16, 2013 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun and Moon squaring Saturn. You may think Venus square Saturn is the worst because its your love life with a partner but its worse to have a difficult relationship with your Parents and not having warm ties with them, not being able to feel their love. I have both aspects. My mother is like Hitler, my father Lenin.

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posted November 16, 2013 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8H Sun inconjunct 3H moon. most of the time i dont know whether i'm coming or going

saturn is putting on a good show here, unsurprisingly

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posted November 16, 2013 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun sq Moon
Sun sq Neptune

My personal preference. The identity should be solid and sound, you must know who you are (as opposed to Sun sq Neptune) and where you're coming from (as opposed to Sun sq Moon).

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ditisjenn
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posted November 16, 2013 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ditisjenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe there are any worst aspects. You get what you need in life. The challenges are there to help you fulfill your life's purpose. I have a sun square saturn and a moon square venus/ascendant. It's not easy, but who likes easy anyway! It has taught me so much and continues to teach me.

If you expect the worst you will get the worst. If you live your life knowing you will never be able to handle something you never will. I know my hard aspects are there to help me, not to work against me. So I grow from them and learned never to play the victim.

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