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JudyVanTassel
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posted November 15, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The north node is the way you have to go on this lifetime, if any planet is conjuncting the north node is that a meaning you are "doing well" with that side of you? Like, going on the right direction? Planets next to south node means that you are very attach to that way of behaviour, is it bad someway?
What happens when a person has his/her South Node inside the first house, i find it a little bit contradictory. Like this person has to learn some life lessson
(ascendant) and at the same time has to transform and let it go (south node) and go on the opposite direction .
and learn how the opposite is (north node)

Which are your thoughts about, how affect to you

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posted November 16, 2013 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the nodes, I always try to keep in mind that Vedic astrology has a different take on it. The vedic tend to view the North Node as the place where we lose ourselves into the world and materialism, while the south node is where we find our spirituality through loss.

It's a hard concept for us to fathom in the western world, but one to keep in mind so that we don't hold too rigid a view of the nodes.

To answer your question, imo there is nothing contradictory about any position of the nodes. even using the western astrology view of the nodes. South Node in 1st house would tell me that the person eventually needs to pay more attention to "The OThers" instead of focusing on herself. Also, that the marriage partner would be of significant help in advancing materially in this life.

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posted November 16, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But i don't know where are my nodes in vedic astrology....i can't remember it, and i think that's something you can add to your natal chart like draconics and other types of charts. But could you explain me why in vedic astrology has more meaning?? In western astrology i have south node in leo house 9, north node in aquarius house 3 conjuncting my moon very tight, that means something??

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posted November 16, 2013 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ Vedic astrology (disclaimer: I am not an expert on it) is based on the spiritual side of India. Their ideas of spirituality tend to see enlightement as the ultimate goal of life, and is achieved through transcending the material. Therefore in a way, the South Node may signify material loss but can lead to finding true spiritual wealth, so it is not considered negative.

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posted November 17, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My south node is in Leo as well and in my 3rd house, my Aqua north node is in my 9th house. I have read that moving from Leo to Aqua means moving from heart towards the reason. From being self-centered towards caring about others, being equal. For me it as been quite a tough placement. You have it reversed house-wise, but I have left my home country (3rd is siblings, neighborhood) and live abroad (9th house can mean travels). I listen to my inner voice a lot and Im quite philosophical (again 9th house influence).
Ive also read that Leo-Aqua axis means difficult love karma... heart vs reason. It has been true for me. Tapping into your Aqua moon qualities can bring you forward in life.

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posted November 17, 2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North Node is where your heads at and what it wants, the south node is where your bodys at and what spiritual karmic pull you have.
(Rahu and Ketu)

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posted November 17, 2013 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
With the nodes, I always try to keep in mind that Vedic astrology has a different take on it. The vedic tend to view the North Node as the place where we lose ourselves into the world and materialism, while the south node is where we find our spirituality through loss.

It's a hard concept for us to fathom in the western world, but one to keep in mind so that we don't hold too rigid a view of the nodes.


Interesting. I have NN in Capricorn in 9th, SN in Cancer in 3rd. Rahu in Sagittarius and Ketu in Gemini.
I can perfectly relate to my Western SN.
I don't know about Ketu.

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posted November 17, 2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You go in the direction of the north node and kinda fear what is ruled by the house it's in. You rest in your south node and want to stay forever in that house. The planets, sun, moon conjunction to the nodes are more about fate and are thought to relate to past lives. If you have Venus conjunct north node, you were very loving in the past, you have earned love in this life now it will benefit you. Perhaps you will experience relationships that feel like they have existed over many lifetimes so they will feel much more spiritual and soul matish? You will experience good fortune and much affection in this life. Moon conjunct might be similar, popularity in this life.

If you have a malefic or outer planet conjunct the south node, could mean you did some pretty bad things in a past life so your karma is out of wack in this one and it's going to take some resolving. You know your karma is messed up by the circumstances of your life, supposedly, so, let's say you lose your job through no fault of your own or your house catches fire, burns to the ground, they say that's an indication karma is bad and this is also seen with south nodal conjunctions.

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posted November 17, 2013 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
With the nodes, I always try to keep in mind that Vedic astrology has a different take on it. The vedic tend to view the North Node as the place where we lose ourselves into the world and materialism, while the south node is where we find our spirituality through loss.

It's a hard concept for us to fathom in the western world, but one to keep in mind so that we don't hold too rigid a view of the nodes.

To answer your question, imo there is nothing contradictory about any position of the nodes. even using the western astrology view of the nodes. South Node in 1st house would tell me that the person eventually needs to pay more attention to "The OThers" instead of focusing on herself. Also, that the marriage partner would be of significant help in advancing materially in this life.


From what i've learnt The nodes and Rahu and Ketu are the exact same. the node's are viewed from a western, societized take and the Vedic from a spiritual open concept take.

Rahu and North node are the same, your head,(literal), where your head goes, what your head wants to obtain in this life for its own gain,personal desires of the self, your life goal and what you are moving towards. Depending on the placements.
I think because Vedic see's society different as Western, desire for the material is seen as a bad thing, (which it is) and so they say Rahu is the one who wants his own desires.

Ketu & the south node are your body, without its head, disregard for the material, open to spirituality, the plane of the immaterial, pulling you away from the wants and desires of your head/node/rahu

Western keeps it on a society level .. Vedic more says the spiritual truth of it

Rahu Liba conjunct Venus Libra 11th
Ketu Aries 5th

North Node Scorpio 12th
South Node taurus 6th
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posted November 17, 2013 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
My south node is in Leo as well and in my 3rd house, my Aqua north node is in my 9th house. I have read that moving from Leo to Aqua means moving from heart towards the reason. From being self-centered towards caring about others, being equal. For me it as been quite a tough placement. You have it reversed house-wise, but I have left my home country (3rd is siblings, neighborhood) and live abroad (9th house can mean travels). I listen to my inner voice a lot and Im quite philosophical (again 9th house influence).
Ive also read that Leo-Aqua axis means difficult love karma... heart vs reason. It has been true for me. Tapping into your Aqua moon qualities can bring you forward in life.

How curious is it!!!! Tha same nodes but reversed houses. I was born in a different country from where i grew up and live all my life. I was born in the country of my father but when i was 6 months my mother took me to her country, and i have live in her country all my life.

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posted November 17, 2013 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leocassandra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many theories.. I have North Node conjunct-Moon,IC,Neptune.South Node conjunct MC. I would disagree with statement that planet aspecting(especially conjunction) is a gift from past. Planets(Venus,Jupiter) conjunct South Node are gifts from past. What is touching North Node is new and i would agree with statement that Rahu is unknown. Planets touching it is urgency to develop these quality(in this incarnation, if you belive in it), there is a pull(? or push?:P) in this direction. With my North node conjunction with Moon and IC im feeling that im just discovering my inner world, my emotions. Im making lot of mistakes, sometimes is difficult. South Node conjunction MC- I just don't care much about my work, career. I have strange feeling that whatever i will do, it will work out...maybe im just stupid and naive:P I have a friend with "unaspected" Mercury in Gemini. The only aspect to Mercury is square (1 or 2 degree) from nodes and she loves to learn, get to know new thing. She is restlees.

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posted November 17, 2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
If you have Venus conjunct north node, you were very loving in the past, you have earned love in this life now it will benefit you. Perhaps you will experience relationships that feel like they have existed over many lifetimes so they will feel much more spiritual and soul matish? You will experience good fortune and much affection in this life. Moon conjunct might be similar, popularity in this life.

If you have a malefic or outer planet conjunct the south node, could mean you did some pretty bad things in a past life so your karma is out of wack in this one and it's going to take some resolving. You know your karma is messed up by the circumstances of your life, supposedly, so, let's say you lose your job through no fault of your own or your house catches fire, burns to the ground, they say that's an indication karma is bad and this is also seen with south nodal conjunctions.


Erm...what about Neptune conjunct NN, with a tight square to Sun and Moon? Sorry, had to add my own question. It's a weird configuration I have there, imo.
Nothing conjuncts my SN, except for an asteroid (a Vedic asteroid, if I'm not mistaken), but I can't recall which one.
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Yeah, Ganesa and Kaali conjunct my SN. Ganesa by 1 degree, Kaali by about 6.

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posted November 17, 2013 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You go in the direction of the north node and kinda fear what is ruled by the house it's in. You rest in your south node and want to stay forever in that house. The planets, sun, moon conjunction to the nodes are more about fate and are thought to relate to past lives. If you have Venus conjunct north node, you were very loving in the past, you have earned love in this life now it will benefit you. Perhaps you will experience relationships that feel like they have existed over many lifetimes so they will feel much more spiritual and soul matish? You will experience good fortune and much affection in this life. Moon conjunct might be similar, popularity in this life.

If you have a malefic or outer planet conjunct the south node, could mean you did some pretty bad things in a past life so your karma is out of wack in this one and it's going to take some resolving. You know your karma is messed up by the circumstances of your life, supposedly, so, let's say you lose your job through no fault of your own or your house catches fire, burns to the ground, they say that's an indication karma is bad and this is also seen with south nodal conjunctions.


This is so true...

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JudyVanTassel
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posted November 17, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, iwas refering to the frust parragraph!!!! And what about planets conjuncting south node??

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posted November 17, 2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 17, 2013 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdsong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You go in the direction of the north node and kinda fear what is ruled by the house it's in. You rest in your south node and want to stay forever in that house. The planets, sun, moon conjunction to the nodes are more about fate and are thought to relate to past lives. If you have Venus conjunct north node, you were very loving in the past, you have earned love in this life now it will benefit you. Perhaps you will experience relationships that feel like they have existed over many lifetimes so they will feel much more spiritual and soul matish? You will experience good fortune and much affection in this life. Moon conjunct might be similar, popularity in this life.

That's interesting SSS.
I have Sun, Venus, Pallas Conjunct North Node all in Pisces in the 8th house.
So I guess it means I have to follow a "Piscean" path and not fear the "unknown"?

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posted November 17, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the SN as the old path, habits, the place of spiritual stagnation. The NN is the new path, the unfamiliar, the place of spiritual growth.

My SN is also in the 1st house. I interpret this as the old path being me centric and the new path as being we centric.

Conjunctions to the SN would be unresolved issues and conjunctions to the NN would be a "pole star" of sorts.

I have Pluto conjunct my SN, so there are issues (perhaps control, manipulation, etc) holding me back.

With nodes though, since they're points rather than planets, I'd use tight orbs.

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posted November 17, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my own theory.

The Nodes are a Give-n-Take axis. The NN is where you receive, the SN is where you give back. All in the same lifetime. Key to happiness is in balancing the two.

Planets conjunct the NN is what you crave and hunger for spiritually. Conjunctions to the SN is the what-where-how you give back what you took in. Here (sn) is where you proffer the "waste material" from the assimilation process of your NN goodies. No longer useful to you, but necessary/vital to others.

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posted November 17, 2013 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can North Node & Rahu be different? They are the same points in space, the two points cut across your chart symbolising body & head ...

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posted November 17, 2013 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
From what i've learnt The nodes and Rahu and Ketu are the exact same. the node's are viewed from a western, societized take and the Vedic from a spiritual open concept take.

Rahu and North node are the same, your head,(literal), where your head goes, what your head wants to obtain in this life for its own gain,personal desires of the self, your life goal and what you are moving towards. Depending on the placements.
I think because Vedic see's society different as Western, desire for the material is seen as a bad thing, (which it is) and so they say Rahu is the one who wants his own desires.

Ketu & the south node are your body, without its head, disregard for the material, open to spirituality, the plane of the immaterial, pulling you away from the wants and desires of your head/node/rahu

Western keeps it on a society level .. Vedic more says the spiritual truth of it

Rahu Liba conjunct Venus Libra 11th
Ketu Aries 5th

North Node Scorpio 12th
South Node taurus 6th
Imo


You articulated it much better than I did. Thank you.

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posted November 17, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I have my own theory.

The Nodes are a Give-n-Take axis. The NN is where you receive, the SN is where you give back. All in the same lifetime. Key to happiness is in balancing the two.

Planets conjunct the NN is what you crave and hunger for spiritually. Conjunctions to the SN is the what-where-how you give back what you took in. Here (sn) is where you proffer the "waste material" from the assimilation process of your NN goodies. No longer useful to you, but necessary/vital to others.


Very thought provoking.

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posted November 17, 2013 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdsong:
That's interesting SSS.
I have Sun, Venus, Pallas Conjunct North Node all in Pisces in the 8th house.
So I guess it means I have to follow a "Piscean" path and not fear the "unknown"?

You're a sun Pisces, in other words, a Pisces soul, so this sign is very in tune with your purpose anyway.

Keep in mind the node is in the eighth house, too, and it has several nice planets near it so I am thinking you are not intimidated at all by the going-ons of the eighth and can experience the north node/eighth house without as much trepidation or anxiety.

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