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Topic: 12th house Mars
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 19, 2013 07:41 PM
I apologize if this was discussed not long ago. Mars 12th? Do you feel repressed anger/aggression? No clear way to express it? Does it build up and then explode out at inappropriate times? Over reactions to rather insignificant things? Maybe even staying calm during larger issues but no clear way of controlling it? Hidden sexual obsession? Hidden sexual habits? I have twelfth Mars and these are issues that I face. I even have urges and "visions" of doing some really horrific things as an outlet to release it. I also have an 8th Jupiter aspecting Mars which maybe brings 8th house sex/death into it with the effect of "expansion". Either way, I'm curious if anyone experiences these things.
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1030 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 19, 2013 07:48 PM
My mother has mars in the 12th and she's a ticking time bomb. I don't think she represses her anger, it's just that she gets angry too easily and doesn't know how to control it. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 5661 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 19, 2013 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: My mother has mars in the 12th and she's a ticking time bomb. I don't think she represses her anger, it's just that she gets angry too easily and doesn't know how to control it.
My mom is kinda like that too and she has twelfth house Mars conjunct moon. When she gets angry she wants to hit.IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1030 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 19, 2013 08:05 PM
It's pretty strange coz my mom has aqua mercury, mars, Jupiter in the 12th. I'm like how can one be so touchy with such cool placements. But then, mom has leo Uranus oppose that aqua stellium and a 1st house aries moon. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 3833 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 19, 2013 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Mars 12th? Do you feel repressed anger/aggression? No clear way to express it? Does it build up and then explode out at inappropriate times? Over reactions to rather insignificant things? Maybe even staying calm during larger issues but no clear way of controlling it? Hidden sexual obsession? Hidden sexual habits? Either way, I'm curious if anyone experiences these things.
Mars in the 12th: Yes Do you feel repressed anger/aggression? No clear way to express it? Yes sometimes but I have learned to find emotional outlets such as art or fitness. Does it build up and then explode out at inappropriate times? Over reactions to rather insignificant things? Yes it can build up but I tend to wait until the right moment to just go off. I don't overreact over insignificant things my Taurus asc prevents that. Hidden sexual obsession? ------>Define obsession O_____o Hidden sexual habits?------------> Yes and no. I prefer to keep my sex life underwraps.
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 3761 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 19, 2013 08:30 PM
quote: DeepFreeze: Do you feel repressed anger/aggression? No clear way to express it? Does it build up and then explode out at inappropriate times? Over reactions to rather insignificant things? Maybe even staying calm during larger issues but no clear way of controlling it? Hidden sexual obsession? Hidden sexual habits?
Nah, my anger and aggression aren't repressed. I'm expressive enough to bring stuff like that out. I like to think of it as shooting lasers off into space! With someone to watch it with since I have to express myself to other people. #LeoMars No building up, no explosions, nah nah...I do tend to swallow my temper though and express it later in words to someone I trust. I don't really do immediate actions. I have very good self control! I do stay very calm but that's because I have a cold temper, not a hot one. I ice over and think of where to cut when I get angry...if you want directionless, hot anger and fists, talk to my Aries sister lmfao! No hidden sexual obsessions and no hidden sexual habits. I'm a pretty plain ducky and what I do like, is not repressed. My Mars makes squares to Sun and Jupiter, conjunction to Ceres, and a trine to Eris...fun times! I think I own my Mars in H12. It doesn't cause me any heartache. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 19, 2013 09:40 PM
Quick reply.I get a mixed bag with anger/frustration. Sometimes it just explodes out. The other night I had to leave the cause of frustration. To me there was no other out or I would do something that I would later regret. I literally had tunnel vision. I only remember seeing very specifically what my eyes were looking at. Example: someone's face without even recognizing what they might be wearing, etc. Sometimes it's slow, patient, and calculated. The sex part. I don't have any unusual thoughts or desires. Well, not THAT bad anyway. It's simply that they are constant. I really mean constant, and with everyone whether I am attracted or not. It's just a subject that never ever leaves no matter what. There are habits/addictions as well. Even though it's been around 2 years since the act of sex itself with another person. Normally, this is not something that I would reveal, but being that I'm unknown here, and never intend to be known - it's no big deal. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 3761 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 19, 2013 09:47 PM
I'm kinda curious about your chart - post it up!!!!IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 125 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 19, 2013 10:10 PM
Depending on which house system is used; whole sign - Mars Sag in the 12th ( together with Neptune&North Node )Just yesterday I was telling to a friend, I have violance in my thoughts. I've never gotten into any physical fight except the ones that I had with my bros when I was a child.. but when I am outside, walking I verbally attack a lot of people. I don't know them but I hate it when they invade my territory, don't follow the common rules. I have misophonia ( hatred of sound ). If a person chewing gum, making a lot of noise while eating, any low pitch repeat sounds can make me boil with rage and attack the cause. So far, only verbaly. Thank God, people do not really respond. I am skinny as hell but still something about me scares them ( but I guess that must be Pluto aspects that I have ) I can smell danger way before people and I believe Mars in the 12th grants me this. I fantasize sex a lot. But nothing too weird I guess. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6154 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 19, 2013 10:52 PM
I don't have repressed anger per se… when I'm angry, I definitely know and feel it. But it seems there is always an obstacle in the way of expressing my anger (being in a public place, being at work, etc.) I have hidden sexual habits too. My Mars is also conj. my ASC though, so I don't think it being in the 12th really dampers much.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 20, 2013 12:51 AM
SE - Sorry man. I have to disappoint you. I have many reasons for not posting it. I'm slightly uncomfortable even revealing any placements, such as this one. One of the main reasons is people pretend to be open minded, but they're not. Once a chart is revealed they have expected behaviors of the person (me). I don't act like some of the signs that I have due to aspects and such. I'd rather just be me, be free, without judgement. Nothing personal to anyone. I've just been through all of that before. Not planning to do it again. sis - yes! I can identify with what you said. I wouldn't say that I have a constant hatred of sound. There are days few and far between, but there are days when just ANY noise just irritates the CRAP out of me. Or people even being around. I want to be alone. Only once in a while. Like you, there's something, I don't know what, but it keeps me from acting out. There's a conscience. However, deep in my thoughts, there are moments when I'm just like, "Thank God I don't have a gun." A lot of this stuff no one would know about. I don't wear these thoughts and these feelings on my sleeve or anything. Sometimes when I'm angry with someone, more long term. Like someone at work. I just dream, and conscientiously HOPE that they would start an altercation. I'm just itching for it but I know that I can't do it. I'll be in trouble, appear crazy, etc. There's been a couple times when I've attacked someone. Both times where a little scary. Only because in my head, it's like thought went away. I had no concept of when to stop or how far to take it. I mean, just for a few moments, then I'd snap back and walk away from it. Those few moments though were kind of scary. It was like just blanking out. ail221 - you know? I've thought about art. I have no talent but I would LOOOOOOVE to draw. Just simple pencil drawings. Just all of a sudden, I feel inspired. Thank you! I might check with the community college about just a drawing class or two. I think that would be a great outlet! I could draw some messed up pictures to get my thoughts out but then nice ones too. Overall, these are just thoughts and almost always are only that. I do have a nasty temper though if it flares up. I really really try hard to keep cool. Practice right? The sex stuff. Yeah it's nothing really unusual or "weird". I'm a "normal" guy. For example though, if a really attractive woman walks by. MOST days, even if you pepper sprayed me I'd suffer the pain enough to catch a look of her. LOL!! I've been celibate for quite a while though. I just like to admire for the most part and do the deed in my head only. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 20, 2013 12:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [QUOTE]Originally posted by 12muddy: [b]My mother has mars in the 12th and she's a ticking time bomb. I don't think she represses her anger, it's just that she gets angry too easily and doesn't know how to control it.
My mom is kinda like that too and she has twelfth house Mars conjunct moon. When she gets angry she wants to hit.[/B][/QUOTE] I used to be really bad. I would just hit whatever was near. I broke my hand on a tree once. LOL I'm not that way any more. I've gotten much better but I DEFINITELY have to physically leave or I still would. I used to road rage SUPER bad. I'd chase people down and throw something at them. Or pass them and then let them tailgate. Then drop two tires onto the gravel shoulder to throw rocks at them. I was bad! Not any more. I don't road rage at all, ever. I just let 'em go. There's no point. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 3833 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 04:31 PM
You don't need talent to take a art class. You could try angry art....I mean abstract art and platter paint for a emotional release.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 5661 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 04:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: I used to be really bad. I would just hit whatever was near. I broke my hand on a tree once. LOL I'm not that way any more. I've gotten much better but I DEFINITELY have to physically leave or I still would. I used to road rage SUPER bad. I'd chase people down and throw something at them. Or pass them and then let them tailgate. Then drop two tires onto the gravel shoulder to throw rocks at them. I was bad! Not any more. I don't road rage at all, ever. I just let 'em go. There's no point.
That's what's best about the twelfth - things tend to improve. I used to be so lost and confused everyday and now I feel like everything is so much clearer.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 5661 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 04:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: You don't need talent to take a art class. You could try angry art....I mean abstract art and platter paint for a emotional release.
Although I don't have a twelfth house Mars, I've been told my art is emotionally intense and has an energy to it. My art teacher got this weird feeling when she looked at it, lol. She even told me.
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 883 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 04:58 PM
@DeepFreeze @12Muddy You both are correct although you're discussing opposite extremes.
My ex-best friend has 12H Mars. She's mostly the "repressive" type who holds it all in until she explodes. And YES she explodes at times or places where it wasn't warranted!! Inflicting even more pain on herself because she blew up on the WRONG person. Then it's back to repressing instead of *fixing* the overall problem. On the other hand - I have an Aunt who lets her anger/frustrations out OFTEN. She holds nothing back and sometimes doesn't have a filter! Yet if you give it BACK to her she will crumble at times! God love her...she's a good woman though who takes excellent care of her family. So it seems that 12H folks (no matter the placement) will at times struggle with striking a BALANCE with their behavior. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 5661 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 04:59 PM
A lot of times with twelfth house Mars, they will keep everything in when they are at work but once they are at home watch out. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6652 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 20, 2013 05:09 PM
I repress my anger but I don't have a 12th house Mars.But I have Aries on the 12H cusp and Mars sq. Saturn. I can't think of anyone with a 12H Mars... but it kinda reminds me of people with a retrograde Mars. They tend to be super calm and then all of a sudden - boom! I don't think it's healthy at all... and DeepFreeze, you sound scary! lmao. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 5661 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 05:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
So it seems that 12H folks (no matter the placement) will at times struggle with striking a BALANCE with their behavior.
So true! Balance is the most difficult part, and trying to appear like everyone else, live up to the same expectations. I have Mercury in twelve with ADHD and I struggle to pay attention to what's going on around me without being distracted, same as those without ADHD. That's a typical twelfth house struggle. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 20, 2013 05:41 PM
Doux - It's really not as bad as I make it sound. Mostly just thoughts and such. I typically find an outlet that no one gets hurt from. Many women that I date long term or even just a date or two will very often comment about how comfortable that they feel around me. Feeling secure has been the ongoing theme in all of my relationships. (Locas! Hahaha) ail221 - Thanks! Maybe I'll get practicing. I think I'd fall in love with it if I learned to appreciate my own work. SSS/LovelyAries - yes, balance for sure. I'm really a LOT better than when younger. Actually, although I did release at work the other night. I am very careful, and an expert at leaving what's at work, at work, and what's at home, at home. I never mix the two if at all possible. I get SUPER SUPER irritated when others do that. The two should never mix in my opinion. Then you make your home life or work life suffer for absolutely no reason really. I have my good points and balance I am learning. I just wondered if other 12th Mars were similar. I also have a few other aspects that certainly don't help but I'll leave those alone. I don't have any questions about them. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 3833 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 20, 2013 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221: [b]You don't need talent to take a art class. You could try angry art....I mean abstract art and platter paint for a emotional release.
Although I don't have a twelfth house Mars, I've been told my art is emotionally intense and has an energy to it. My art teacher got this weird feeling when she looked at it, lol. She even told me. [/B][/QUOTE]Sounds like your neptune aspects in actions.
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6652 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 20, 2013 07:12 PM
Deep Freeze, you exude some Leo energy, imo. The comfy feeling some women get around you could be due to Neptune aspects or Chiron, maybe. Glad to know you're not as temperamental as you used to be. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 20, 2013 07:34 PM
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 883 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 21, 2013 12:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: So true! Balance is the most difficult part, and trying to appear like everyone else, live up to the same expectations. I have Mercury in twelve with ADHD and I struggle to pay attention to what's going on around me without being distracted, same as those without ADHD. That's a typical twelfth house struggle.
I have zero planets in the 12th. I'm almost grateful for that - after reading what everyone says on here LOL. I truly do hope that you find the right balance for yourself though SSS.
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
SSS/LovelyAries - yes, balance for sure. I'm really a LOT better than when younger. Actually, although I did release at work the other night. I am very careful, and an expert at leaving what's at work, at work, and what's at home, at home. I never mix the two if at all possible. I get SUPER SUPER irritated when others do that. The two should never mix in my opinion. Then you make your home life or work life suffer for absolutely no reason really.
I'm very glad that things have improved for you! It's not always easy finding your "sweet spot" in life.
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