posted November 20, 2013 07:37 AM            

I don't mean regular people, however. Strangers, acquaintances and even friends have come and gone from my life, without me so much as batting an eyelash at it. I think this has to do with my Virgo Sun and Aqua Moon.

BUT, I can't seem to ever stop loving someone I felt deeply for. It's not even that I have hope to be with some of these guys... It's that I struggle with letting them go. And of course, when I'm in the process of clearing them and my feelings for them out, they crawl their way back into my life.

I have read that those with Leo Venus have this particular problem, and I think I have it magnified by her square to Pluto in Scorpio.

posted November 20, 2013 08:32 AM            

I have come to the realization that I just have to surrender to it, the fact is once I love someone, I will love them forever.

That does not mean I need to be in a relationship with them though; but the caring will always be there.

posted November 20, 2013 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
So, I'm wondering if I'm the only Venus square Pluto natally that has problems letting people go.

I don't mean regular people, however. Strangers, acquaintances and even friends have come and gone from my life, without me so much as batting an eyelash at it. I think this has to do with my Virgo Sun and Aqua Moon.

BUT, I can't seem to ever stop loving someone I felt deeply for. It's not even that I have hope to be with some of these guys... It's that I struggle with letting them go. And of course, when I'm in the process of clearing them and my feelings for them out, they crawl their way back into my life.

I have read that those with Leo Venus have this particular problem, and I think I have it magnified by her square to Pluto in Scorpio.

Can anyone tell me how to fix this warped notion of loyalty of mine?

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I have Venus in Leo and I don't have a problem letting go. I just tell myself it's part of life. We all change and grow, for the most part, and whatever will be will be.

I know someone with the square who is really obsessive and jealous but when she's with someone it's just weird. Her relationships never work out and there was a lot of violence in her childhood which I am sure is why she has so many issues. For her to have a healthy relationship, she is going to have to really transform her emotional/love nature.

She also has a habit of falling for people who won't add much and then she tries to control them and it ends up blowing up into huge fights in which they get physical. It's just a mess.

posted November 20, 2013 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have that, and also Moon in Aqua.

I have come to the realization that I just have to surrender to it, the fact is once I love someone, I will love them forever.

That does not mean I need to be in a relationship with them though; but the caring will always be there.

I used to think I need to cut it out of my soul and heart, but in the process all this resulted in was that I felt like I was cutting my very soul out of me, and that is definitely not worth it. So if they are as embedded in my soul, I should simply let them live there, and actually now I feel some sort of gratitude that I am even able to feel that deeply about someone, no matter what the other party might feel or not.

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posted November 21, 2013 02:49 PM            

It's just that, whenever I talk to someone else about me keeping in touch with exes or even talking to them if we bump into each other, people say that's too weird and civilized to be true.

posted November 21, 2013 02:55 PM            

It's just not right for your current / future SO.

posted November 21, 2013 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
People who can't let go of past lovers are a turn-off for this gal.

It's just not right for your current / future SO.

**IMO**

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Such a scorp thing to say

posted November 21, 2013 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
People who can't let go of past lovers are a turn-off for this gal.

It's just not right for your current / future SO.

**IMO**

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Lol, it's not that you want that person in a romantic or even sexual way... It's more like, you just love that person. There isn't any conotation to that love (at least for me). I want them to be happy and well and once the moving-on phase is over, I'm even glad to see they've got girlfriends and are having good times.

posted November 21, 2013 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I have retroactive jealousy, sooo...

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That'd be a nightmare for me, LOL.

posted November 21, 2013 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Lol, it's not that you want that person in a romantic or even sexual way... It's more like, you just love that person. There isn't any conotation to that love (at least for me). I want them to be happy and well and once the moving-on phase is over, I'm even glad to see they've got girlfriends and are having good times.

It's the process that is painful as f*ck to get there... But then, I don't do the whole "let me get with this guy to forget that other guy". I keep to myself and focus on school/career, going about my life. Usually I know I'm over someone when I start liking another guy. I'm too monogamous and romantic to like two guys at the same time.

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Same here.

However I find that not all people seem to unerstand the concept of "just love, without wanting to have a relationship".
Maybe it has something to do with the Aqua-Moon. I don´t know.

Well, I don´t find it weird to be friends with an Ex still. My best friend managed to do that, keeping in contact with her ex-boyfriend she had been sharing 7 years of her life with.
Her husband doesn`t mind (he has an Aqua-Moon btw ). There is no room for jealousy between them, as they are so very upfront and honest to each other.

posted November 21, 2013 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Yeah, a Scorpio/Pluto/8H person would go INSANE with someone like you!!

Not saying what you do is bad, just... hard to accept for possessive / jealous people.

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Yes, people are quite different.

To be honest someone like that, in male form, would be a nightmare to ME. I would feel so limited, fenced in, always needing to walk on eggshells that I probably could not wait for the first opportunity to break out.

Interestingly as long as the doors are wide open, I never feel any urge to walk through them. But the moment the doors are closing, I just can`t think of anything else but getting away, no matter how nice it might be inside, and how stormy the weather outside is.

This is true for friendships and even family relations as well. KInda hard for my Scorpio-mum, when I was a kid. lol

posted November 21, 2013 03:21 PM            

I don't know, it seems like I pull these type of feelings out of them... I met a guy who was Sag Sun-Moon, Cap Venus and Virgo Mars, who you'd THINK wouldn't care about my past, right? Wrong. Not only did he try to get their names out of me by telling me all of HIS exes' names, he got upset over a picture of me with a guy friend (truly a guy who is a friend, not a love interest).

posted November 21, 2013 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Same here.

However I find that not all people seem to unerstand the concept of "just love, without wanting to have a relationship".
Maybe it has something to do with the Aqua-Moon. I don´t know.

Well, I don´t find it weird to be friends with an Ex still. My best friend managed to do that, keeping in contact with her ex-boyfriend she had been sharing 7 years of her life with.
Her husband doesn`t mind (he has an Aqua-Moon btw ). There is no room for jealousy between them, as they are so very upfront and honest to each other.

Personally I think that Exes are Exes for a reason.

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I think it's the Aqua Moon, as well. Makes us less possessive, since we don't want to be controlled or caged in, and it's only fair we give what we take, right?

posted November 21, 2013 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

To be honest someone like that, in male form, would be a nightmare to ME. I would feel so limited, fenced in, always needing to walk on eggshells that I probably could not wait for the first opportunity to break out.

Interestingly as long as the doors are wide open, I never feel any urge to walk through them. But the moment the doors are closing, I just can`t think of anything else but getting away, no matter how nice it might be inside, and how stormy the weather outside is.

This is true for friendships and even family relations as well. KInda hard for my Scorpio-mum, when I was a kid. lol

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posted November 21, 2013 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:

Mom, dad, friends, guys... Even guys that turned me down act crazy when I show interest in someone else

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posted November 22, 2013 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by DialecticLady:

Did you said all these people are jealous of you? I have a 8th house venus too and the same experience, but I thought was because of my Pluto on MC O.o

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Lol, not jealous, possessive... there's a SLIGHT difference there.

posted November 22, 2013 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Lol, not jealous, possessive... there's a SLIGHT difference there.

I don't have Pluto on MC. I've gone through all of the most annoyingly possessive people I know, and sure enough, they all hit my 8H with something, planet or angle. C-R-A-Z-Y.

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Yeah, sorry, I meant this (possessive)

posted November 22, 2013 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
I have Venus square Pluto 8 deg and yes it's so hard for me to let go. I don't let go. Once loved, forever loved...

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