posted November 21, 2013 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Does any one have this aspect or know a guy who does? Can they be relied upon not to change their minds every so often?

According to iQ, "Neptune conjunct Ascendant people are top notch actors and even Self-Deluded, can confuse everyone around them about their true intentions, even themselves".

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I know someone with it and he's.......very very intelligent...so much that I have taken a wait and see approach because I know ALL about Neptunian fog...luckily I can navigate those waters pretty well but I am still just waiting him out and I can wait for ever

posted November 21, 2013 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
OMG Charlie, you could be talking about the guy I know. Yes, super intelligent, but so self-absorbed that I wonder if he can connect to another person for longer than 5 minutes or at least consistently over a few days.

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posted November 21, 2013 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
neptune conjunct asc here.
are u asking about cheating?

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No, no cheating involved, I'm pretty sure of that.

posted November 21, 2013 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yes, silver tongued or should I say penned. The errors are flagrantly obvious and I rarely point them out. He forgets what he said a few days ago, may even take an opposing view to one he held earlier if it suits the moment.

What is his sun sign and Asc?

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Aries Sun in 4H, Sag Asc.

posted November 21, 2013 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
No, no cheating involved, I'm pretty sure of that.

Edit: Summerlite, can you identify with any of the above?

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nope. i'm not even sure what exactly you are talking about.

posted November 21, 2013 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries Sun in 4H, Sag Asc.

Oh, also! They will "mirror" you so that you actually don't know who said what and thought what first..

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posted November 21, 2013 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
nope. i'm not even sure what exactly you are talking about.

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That kinda describes the Nep conj Asc person I am referring to - difficult to know, seemingly confused in the guise of being super clever, articulate, knowledgeable and probably wearing a mask to hide what not.

posted November 21, 2013 04:23 PM            

if you really want to know what i have been thinking about your thread, i think you already have an answer in your head and you aren't really here looking for an "opinion" but rather something to justify yourself.

posted November 21, 2013 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
lol you are quite rude.

if you really want to know what i have been thinking about your thread, i think you already have an answer in your head and you aren't really here looking for an "opinion" but rather something to justify yourself.

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posted November 21, 2013 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Wow! I want to know more. Please can you tell all of it or as much as you can. I am only just coming to terms with this condition and wondering whether it is worth my time. That decision is my lesson in this relationship, so to speak. As someone wise said to me recently, is this person behaving today like someone that I would want to choose to spend my life with, however brilliant the synastry is.

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We might enter the field of metaphysics now and perhaps only people that are truly "Neptunian" will understand but I have and can "float", in a very transcending way, with people that can pick up on this. No words are ever really needed because we "swim". Sometimes it gets super-scary as I am not fully ready or even educated to grasp these things when they happen. The bad part is that this makes one very capable of manipulating someone that is not Neptunian in the worst ways you can imagine..we'll put on those rose colored glasses for you (in case you hadn't already), feed you, walk with you, tell you everything that YOU wanted to say etc

My very first gut feeling told me "ALERT abort mission" when I was introduced to this guy and I still think that would be the right choice and ultimately will be what I will do BUT, I opted to "swim the swim" just because doing it teaches me things and I guess since I know what I am doing so must he..so now we swim. And float.

posted November 21, 2013 04:46 PM            

I try to be very direct with people, so I don't relate to that part, but I can confuse myself sometimes. It's not that I'm confused, actually, it's more that I can't see myself clearly.

posted November 21, 2013 04:53 PM            

Shifty and confused - no. We can be a bit vague at times, but we know exactly what we think or say. That doesn't always mean that other people understand though. So I pretty much can get why we may appear confused or shifty to others.

posted November 21, 2013 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
BUT, I opted to "swim the swim" just because doing it teaches me things and I guess since I know what I am doing so must he..so now we swim. And float.

Trust you gut. Always.

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posted November 21, 2013 05:10 PM            

Btw, I have Sun conj Neptune, so can understand the bit about being unsure of who I am. But that becomes an investigation, a journey to find an identity. The positive thing about this is that it makes one more accepting of all sorts of people.

posted November 22, 2013 02:00 AM            

I know a Pisces with this, as far as fishes go this one is a shark. The conjunction here is in Sagittarius so if you listen to what they say, and forget how they make you feel or the look in their eyes you will get the truth. This and I see the way they deal with people.

This one even scrambled my psychic antannae. Dreams and premonitions which are usually reliable are off the mark with this one.

Too nebulous I had to cut off communication.

posted November 22, 2013 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
I have Neptune conj. ASC too and have never been called shifty or confused. I'm not even sure those words apply to Neptune. maybe dreamy and lost, but if you mean lying or deceptive by your word choice, then that doesn't seem to fit. Neptune makes us self-deluded, but not included to trick others. it's kind of akin to being in a Halloween costume all year - we can easily change appearance/adapt in order to please a partner or make ourselves happy.

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Actually Neptune is often a marker for either the conner or the conned, so it's a perfectly valid possibility.