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SoujiroSeta
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posted November 24, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 24, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its night here and I need to sleep very soon so my reply will be kinda short.
We have some similarities in our chart as goes with the signs, you can see them in my signature.
I'm 33 and have been single for a little over a year coming from a 9 year relationship with a Aries girl.
I've got 2 close friends and they're probably the only ones who really knows me aside from my family.
Often the people who I might find interesting is like 20-30 years older than me.

As for the Gemini Venus I can say I was faithfull to my woman all those nine years but the last year I've been a real **** . Tho my soul is aking for something serious i haven't found anyone who i even want to try to find out if i would like to settle with yet.

I've got the same experience with the fire-signs. Besides from Scorpios and a Taurus my dates have all been fire one of my friends is Leo as well.

I think that if I'll ever fall in love again I would put my bet on that it would be a Gemini woman with some water in her personal planets.

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Sun: Cancer -9th house
Moon: Gemini -9th house
Mercury: Cancer -9th house
Venus: Gemini -9th house
Mars: Virgo -12th house
Jupiter: Virgo -11th house
NN: Leo -10th house
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posted November 25, 2013 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi and welcome!
I would like to say that you sound really intelligent and well formulated and that you have already come far about knowing the style of your relationships

I will try to help you move further

the 11th house in the house system tells about your circle of friends and the planet ruler of the sign and how it is aspected in your chart will tell you a bit about how stable connection you probably make… I'll give you an example from my own chart
I have Aries in 11th house and the ruler of aries is Mars.
Mars and aries is a powerful planet and sign, and they are usually very dominating, want's to be the leader or "win people over to their side". It indicates that I like to be the dominant leader type in my circle of friends, and that I like to be spontaneous and physical, maybe even sexual… That isn't very good for having long-term friendships, cause it's never good to be egoistically or wanting to dominate or begin to see friends as something more…. If I go further to analyze the aspect to my mars I have an ok strong mars which is conjunct sun, opposite moon and square uranus. This indicates that I'm probably very energetic and active, but also completely unstable and sometimes do spontaneous actions that could lead to conflict…


You could try this method with your 11th house, it's sign and the planet ruler of that sign

It would also be interesting to know what house your saturn and mars is in? Saturn tells about your fears and if this planet is for an example in the 11th(friends) or 7th(partner) house it could indicate that you fear to fully interact with people… The house mars is in tells about where you are likely to meet conflict, and if it's in 11th or 7th house it could also indicate that you will meet conflict in these areas…. but don't forget that it can be solved, and I don't think any person in the world can go through their lives without conflict with friends, relatives or love…

I hope I helped a little and I hope that you answer so we can analyze your chart a bit further:P

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posted November 25, 2013 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the Venus / Uranus opposition.


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LucieLemonade
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posted November 25, 2013 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep seeing this venus/uranus & venus in Gemini thing and them getting oh so bored.

What I don't see is any of these people with this aspects being the ones to make things exciting. If YOU are bored. Make things more fun. Be spontaneous and adventurous element in the relationship.

Don't wait for someone else to do that for you.

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SoujiroSeta
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posted November 25, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Its night here and I need to sleep very soon so my reply will be kinda short.
We have some similarities in our chart as goes with the signs, you can see them in my signature.
I'm 33 and have been single for a little over a year coming from a 9 year relationship with a Aries girl.
I've got 2 close friends and they're probably the only ones who really knows me aside from my family.
Often the people who I might find interesting is like 20-30 years older than me.

As for the Gemini Venus I can say I was faithfull to my woman all those nine years but the last year I've been a real **** . Tho my soul is aking for something serious i haven't found anyone who i even want to try to find out if i would like to settle with yet.

I've got the same experience with the fire-signs. Besides from Scorpios and a Taurus my dates have all been fire one of my friends is Leo as well.

I think that if I'll ever fall in love again I would put my bet on that it would be a Gemini woman with some water in her personal planets.


Lol yes, very similar indeed.

You too :O ? I tend to get along very well with older women. I don't know what it is but I just do, and they're old enough to be my mother.

yeah, venus in gemini gets a bad rep. I think it's the whole "getting bored easily" thing that throws some people off. Some think gem venus will run off with the next person that sparks theirs interests. Not all venus in gemini are the same.

I almost got close to a pisces once, a bit too passive for me. Don't know the signs of some other girls. The ones I remember though have been Aries, Sag, and some others who's fire sign I can't figure out exactly but I can "sense" the fire/air in them.

There was one virgo sun though. Something could have happened but I didn't realize how much she liked me cause I was going through some other problems at the time and was focused on where my life was headed.

I seem to have a thing for virgo sun women. Ofcourse the rest of the placements and natals should be considered, but I seem to have something for virgo sun. I don't know what it is but I just tend to.

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SoujiroSeta
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posted November 25, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Hi and welcome!
I would like to say that you sound really intelligent and well formulated and that you have already come far about knowing the style of your relationships

I will try to help you move further

the 11th house in the house system tells about your circle of friends and the planet ruler of the sign and how it is aspected in your chart will tell you a bit about how stable connection you probably make… I'll give you an example from my own chart
I have Aries in 11th house and the ruler of aries is Mars.
Mars and aries is a powerful planet and sign, and they are usually very dominating, want's to be the leader or "win people over to their side". It indicates that I like to be the dominant leader type in my circle of friends, and that I like to be spontaneous and physical, maybe even sexual… That isn't very good for having long-term friendships, cause it's never good to be egoistically or wanting to dominate or begin to see friends as something more…. If I go further to analyze the aspect to my mars I have an ok strong mars which is conjunct sun, opposite moon and square uranus. This indicates that I'm probably very energetic and active, but also completely unstable and sometimes do spontaneous actions that could lead to conflict…


You could try this method with your 11th house, it's sign and the planet ruler of that sign

It would also be interesting to know what house your saturn and mars is in? Saturn tells about your fears and if this planet is for an example in the 11th(friends) or 7th(partner) house it could indicate that you fear to fully interact with people… The house mars is in tells about where you are likely to meet conflict, and if it's in 11th or 7th house it could also indicate that you will meet conflict in these areas…. but don't forget that it can be solved, and I don't think any person in the world can go through their lives without conflict with friends, relatives or love…

I hope I helped a little and I hope that you answer so we can analyze your chart a bit further:P


Thank you very much next to neptune.

Yes this definitely helped. This is why I need to get my birth time. I haven't been able to dive into house placements and i want to. I did some time tweaking with the 1pm-4pm time my mom gave me to try and see if I could guesstimate my house placements. If I had to guess I would say around 3pm. the houses in those placements explain me very well. i could be wrong but I need to verify. Lol, I'm gonna pressure my parents to find it.

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SoujiroSeta
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posted November 25, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It's the Venus / Uranus opposition.


This is the interpretation I got from http://www.skyscript.co.uk/venusaspects.html#veour

Venus opposition Uranus
There is an opposition formed between Venus and Uranus in your chart. This aspect can cause you to be somewhat emotionally unstable. You express yourself with intensity in relationships, but a rebel attitude makes prolonged associations difficult and sudden breaks possible. You need all types of exotic experiences, with little concern for potential consequences. You depend on your bright and witty charm to carry you to success in your job. Dealing with people may be your forte, yet sometimes you may alienate your closest friends.

hahahaha. I've read about it many times, and 95% of it is true. The only part I disagree with is "with little concern for potential consequences". I always need to know the consequences of my actions before I make them. I can be very indecisive and need to look at something from every possible angle before I make a move some times. I'm not one to be reckless. From what I've read on here it would be my libra moon that gives me that quality.

That's part of it, yes I'll definitely agree. I've read venus/uranus natal threads. lol they were quite interesting. Heck there was one going on a couple days ago. Probably just a few pages back.

Do think some other placements can make the venus/uranus natal exaggerated or subdued?

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posted November 25, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoujiroSeta:
Hey there guys.

I was wondering if certain combinations of astrological placements could point to someone who has a hard time making friends or getting into romantic relationships?

Sorry in advance for the long contrived rant.

I have a twin brother, we were born 8 minutes apart. I don't know our ascendants yet, but my mom gave a hint of the the time. She hasn't yet found our birth info but from the time she gave, sometime around 1-4pm, the only asc during that period is scorpio. Which seemed to make sense to me cause it explained certain parts of my personality very well.

Anyway, my brother and I have

Sun Cancer
Moon Libra
Mercury Cancer
Venus Gemini
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Aries
Saturn Saggittarius
Uranus Saggittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio

Asc Scorpio

We also these natal aspects

Venus opposition Uranus
Moon sextile uranus
Mars Quincunx Uranus
Jupiter Trine Uranus


Sun trine Pluto
Mercury Trine Pluto
Neptune sextile Pluto
Venus Trine Pluto


We are 26yrs old, and we've both been single our entire lives.

I've had many chances to have girlfriends, but every time I've always been the one to not take it further/end it before it gets to the "relationship" level so to speak.

The same thing applies to friendships as well. My twin, who doesn't know about astrology, is almost exactly like me. We really don't have any close friends. He comes by every now and then and talks about how he doesn't like people that fit into a mold. How people are so boring to him. I've asked him why he's been single as well. he said (in summary) "I don't know, I just haven't found anyone. Most people just don't interest me enough".

I overused the search function on this site, trying to understand what could point to it.

Venus in Gemini gets a bad rep, but I kept seeing the same trend in all the venus in gem threads i read on here. Getting bored easily, and how important mental stimulation is. I always wondered why i can get bored very easily. I didn't know what it was.

Then you have my venus oppose uranus, and uranus aspects in general, which find conventional friendships/relationships as something i'd rather not be in. Once something gets into routine or fits into a mold, then i almost zone out so to speak. This is one of the reasons why I don't really have any friends. People see me as someone that's all over the place. Too eratic, so to speak.

Then you have my pluto planets, mixed with my cancer placements, and my gemini venus. I need emotional and intellectual intensity or it simply isn't going to work.

My 3 cancer placements and my libra moon also want romance. There has to be romance/passion. Lol now i'm not talking about fatal attraction where the other person decides to kill both of us at night so we can live happily ever after in spirit, lol, but the connection has to be intense. If it isn't then it just wouldn't work

So in summary. I'm looking for

-Intensity (Pluto natal aspects)
-Spontaneity; it must not be conventional or I will get bored; falling into routine means I will end it(uranus natal aspects, Gemini venus)
-Lots of intellectual stimulation (Gemini venus)
-Romance (Cancer placements, libra moon)

I don't know my house placemnts cause no birth time yet.

I feel like I'm a walking contradiction. My twin also has the same problem I have. Although my twin and I are very similiar in many ways. There are several differences in our personality. This I attribute to other factors like numerology, life expereinces, how much one is willing to change and improve themselves, etc.

When people interact with me they see my venus in gemini. Someone who's always making jokes. So I can come off as someone who just wants to have fun and a good time FOR RIGHT NOW. Someone who is just out there, so to speak.

I seem to attract a lot of fire heavy people. I chalk this us to my gemini venus. When they get close, then they start to see the calmer, romantic, emotional side of me that wants emotional/physical/romantic intensity and passion. The "fun spontaneous, wanting unconventional relations" with others side is still there, but then they never seem to match my emotional intensity. Now I'm not saying fire signs can't be emotional/romantic, but I haven't come across fire romantic interest that can match me on the romantic/emotional level. The spontaneity is there, and there can be intense passion, but romance is also a must.

I've also come across more passive girls/women who i'm interested in romantically. More calmer/watery planets. I don't mind them being passive and less out there in your face like the fire/air signs, but then some of them are too passive. They can match my emotional, romantic, and passionate side, but that spontaneity. That animal like aggression, so to speak. That "anything goes". That unconventionality (is that even a word) always seems to be missing. It's like the ones I've met are doing things by the book. Which is the problem. My uranus natal aspects and my venus in gemini just can't stand routine/conventional relations.

The people I've connected with the most are those that I've had the strangest/weirdest relationships with. We are always laughing and making jokes. Nothing is conventional, and it's impossible to tell how our conversation/time together is going to go. We express ourselves freely. This has worked for friends, but when I want to take it to a romantic relationship, something, either passion/intensity/romance/unconventionality, is always missing. It's hard enough to find friends that I can connect with in the way I like, talk less of romantic partners.


It might seem like I'm asking for too much, but I know myself too much. I've gotten close to many girls, and things could have happened, but something was always missing. I didn't understand why that always happened, but when I got into astrology and started studying the synastry/composite/natal aspects it always made sense.

I've come to realize that I need uranus contacts in synastry AND composite.

Pluto must be present in synastry. Not so much in composite.

People usually run from uranus aspects, but I've come to realize it's a necessity. So is pluto.

I've spent a lot of time working on my self though, and till this day i've grown a lot. All this alone time has led me to dive deeper into a lot of things. It's like before i reincarnated I chose a day/time with astrological placements that would incline me to heavy introversion, and with this heavy introversion would come a rough time in trying to connect with people, so that I would dive into an even deeper introversion, and only when I've gone into the absolute depths of being a hermit will I be able to go down the path I set for myself and come out the person i had intended to be.

Which is funny cause that's how my life has played out so far. So now I'm climbing back up the well, it's still hard to connect with people they way I'd like . I'm fine being single, but I would atleast like to have friends.

So, are any of you like this? What placements do you have? What placements could point to someone who has a hard time connecting with people in general (frienship or romantic or whatever)?


I saw the Libra Moon and wondered how this could be? Libra breathes and lives for friendships and romance.

But then I also read that you also have Asc in Scorp;possibly putting the Moon in the 12th house.

This makes the expression of this Moon position very difficult as the 12th house Moon often denotes who we are in our dreams or in our subconscious level.

There are some challenges on your charts and it sounds to me that you both would rather detach from the people in the world than become a part of them.

Maybe you should look at whether your first house ruler(Pluto) is in the 1st house or the 12th house in your charts.

To start,I wonder if your Neptune aspects your Sun/Moon/Mercury/Mars/Jupiter ?

I am particularly interested in the Sun/Moon/Mercury/Mars aspects to Neptune as these are powerful indicators of a reclusive and passive nature.

Depression, not fitting in, not being able to connect with others and just feeling like you are out of your "element" most of the time, are common themes with Neptune. The sensitivity of this planet can never be overstated.

My advice(coming from a fellow Sun Neptune conjunct individual) is to first make peace with who you are and accept yourselves as you are; because there is nothing "wrong" with you.

Secondly, recognize that the friendships that you are most likely to make with others are delicate and a "work in progress".

The deep "connections" that you crave will not happen overnight and the tendency to take an extreme view with friendships and love interests is unlikely to yield fruitful result.

The restlessness added by Jupiter/Mars/Mercury possibly squaring your natal Moon in Libra adds an interesting dimension to your personalities.

Instead of looking to be "inspired" by others, be the "inspiration" yourselves.

As, with this placements, you are not likely to find much that is of interest or people that are that "varied".

I myself having a Moon in cancer, Mars in Libra square with mercury added to the mix as an opposition to the moon and squaring my mars, I know how "boring" I though people can be.

But I have Venus aspecting Saturn(which makes me that much tolerant), but in your case, the electric Uranus aspecting Venus suggests if there is no "fire", there is no "connection". This is the problem child that you may have to impart creative ways of dealing with.

Lastly, if Jupiter/Neptune squares your Mercury like it may be conjunct your Mars, be careful and attentive of how you can "blow" things completely out of proportion; when its good , its really good, when its bad, well...you get the picture.

I have Jupiter/Neptune conjunct and I am aware that things are never seen in a clear light: Expansive ideas and bigger scopes of thinking tend to get my attention as opposed to "lateral" thinking and closed-mindedness or bigotry etc.

I think I might like both of ya'll, your charts look fabulous!

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SoujiroSeta
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posted November 26, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC TAURUS, If I could kiss you. I would. i don't even care if you're a guy. I would. Your post really pinpointed a lot of things that seem to plague me.


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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I saw the Libra Moon and wondered how this could be? Libra breathes and lives for friendships and romance.

But then I also read that you also have Asc in Scorp;possibly putting the Moon in the 12th house.

This makes the expression of this Moon position very difficult as the 12th house Moon often denotes who we are in our dreams or in our subconscious level.

There are some challenges on your charts and it sounds to me that you both would rather detach from the people in the world than become a part of them.


This has manifested many times. This detachment. Although it was because I felt no mental stimulation. Which always seems to be the problem.

quote:
Maybe you should look at whether your first house ruler(Pluto) is in the 1st house or the 12th house in your charts.

To start,I wonder if your Neptune aspects your Sun/Moon/Mercury/Mars/Jupiter ?

I am particularly interested in the Sun/Moon/Mercury/Mars aspects to Neptune as these are powerful indicators of a reclusive and passive nature.

Depression, not fitting in, not being able to connect with others and just feeling like you are out of your "element" most of the time, are common themes with Neptune. The sensitivity of this planet can never be overstated.

My advice(coming from a fellow Sun Neptune conjunct individual) is to first make peace with who you are and accept yourselves as you are; because there is nothing "wrong" with you.


hahahahaha. i have

Sun Opposition Neptune
Venus Opposition Neptune
Mercrury Opposition Neptune

Your "Depression, not fitting in, not being able to connect with others and just feeling like you are out of your "element" most of the time" hit the nail on the head.

I can connect with people, and talk to them, but it always seems like I'm the one doing the talking/connecting. Like, if I were to just keep quiet, nothing would happen. They wouldn't even know what to say to me. I've only found a few people who can keep a conversation going to with me, without me doing all the talking.

I've definitely accepted this side of me. that's why sometimes I can come off detached or uninterested. Cause the moment I start talking to someone, and it goes down the familiar path (me doing all the talking), something in my head just says "this isn't going to work".

I appear very erratic, like someone who has a lot of energy, to people, and I seem to be all over the place. People who I connect with the most are those who are very "all over the place". Now "all over the place" is hard to define, but more like people who's minds are racing, just like mine, and tend to be unconventional in their approach to things/people. They don't play by a friendship "rulebook" if that makes any sense.

quote:
Secondly, recognize that the friendships that you are most likely to make with others are delicate and a "work in progress".

The deep "connections" that you crave will not happen overnight and the tendency to take an extreme view with friendships and love interests is unlikely to yield fruitful result.

The restlessness added by Jupiter/Mars/Mercury possibly squaring your natal Moon in Libra adds an interesting dimension to your personalities.

As, with this placements, you are not likely to find much that is of interest or people that are that "varied".

I myself having a Moon in cancer, Mars in Libra square with mercury added to the mix as an opposition to the moon and squaring my mars, I know how "boring" I though people can be.


Lmao again. hahaha. I have

Moon square mars (1-2 degrees)
Moon Oppose jupiter (1-2 degrees)

I'm not gonna lie, I tend to overwhelm people with my personality. My twin brother is the same way, but he's more controlled. I used to be more controlled, but I hated it cause I wasn't true to myself. It felt like I was conforming to how people "were told to relate by societal rules", rather than how I actually wanted to relate.

Thank you for pointing it out. It being so tight in my natal is also part of the problem cause it hits me so hard. if the person isn't as, I hate to use this word, "mad" in their personality as I am, it can be hard for me to want to stick around. It makes it seem like I'm ego driven, as if no on is worthy of my time, but that is far from the truth. I actually lover interacting with people. It's just that I have tried and tried and tried. Those that connect with me best have to have a certain type of behavior or else I lose interest. Most people say that my personality is "too much", and from my perspective, theirs is not enough :/. I hope that doesn't sound judgmental as i didn't intend it to come out that way.


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Instead of looking to be "inspired" by others, be the "inspiration" yourselves.


But I have Venus aspecting Saturn(which makes me that much tolerant), but in your case, the electric Uranus aspecting Venus suggests if there is no "fire", there is no "connection". This is the problem child that you may have to impart creative ways of dealing with.


I have no saturn in my natal chart . I think this might be why it's all or nothing for me. Pluto aspect might also affect it as well. It's like there is no in-between. I either connect with you extremely well, or we most likely won't connect at all, and probably just say HI to each other every now and then.

YES YES YES, the venus/uranus. There has to be fire it can be hard to connect. I've dealt with people that are more mellow, but then the real side of me comes out and it feels like they can't handle it.


quote:
Lastly, if Jupiter/Neptune squares your Mercury like it may be conjunct your Mars, be careful and attentive of how you can "blow" things completely out of proportion; when its good , its really good, when its bad, well...you get the picture.

I have Jupiter/Neptune conjunct and I am aware that things are never seen in a clear light: Expansive ideas and bigger scopes of thinking tend to get my attention as opposed to "lateral" thinking and closed-mindedness or bigotry etc.


I have

Mercury Oppose Neptune
Mars Square Jupiter

Hahaha, i can see what you mean. Having 3 cancer placements, especially mars in cancer, and libra moon make me very passive. It takes a lot for me to get upset/angry, and I mean a lot. Lol if anything my passive nature has annoyed a lot of people who want an aggressive response hahahaha. Lol so it's the opposite for me.


quote:
I think I might like both of ya'll, your charts look fabulous!

You like my chart O_o? hahaha thank you very much. I can be very weird, lol maybe even too much for you. Do you have friends with similar placements What are the rest of your placements if you don't mind me asking?

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posted November 26, 2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Souji, please, post the chart with the Scorpio ASC.

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