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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't even imagine how difficult the hard aspects must be for the native.. but I would like to hear your experiences?
Maybe they aren't so bad, right lol?

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Chiron sextile Venus is a red flag that the native may be sacrificing him or herself on the altar of love. At its best, this aspect symbolizes a level of devotion to a partner which is breathtaking, and at its worst, the aspect suggests enslavement and adoration. At whatever level, this native is working out a primary sense of meaning by living out a very important love affair. The love affair in itself is an altar, a place to find a spirituality deep within which can only come in relation. One of the most beautiful virtues any of us will ever attain is true devotion. This native many not seem to be doing much with life, but close analysis will reveal a gift of subtle love which is almost beyond human. The astrologer should help this native to become who he or she is individually, but honor this deep love as a special gift. The artist of Chart 25 has managed to develop and give her artistic skills in the middle of a long and enduring love for a man who needs her very much. This relationship is very demanding, yet because she has mastered devotion, she has great skill as an artist. The AIDS counselor of Chart 29 has given himself selflessly to one partner for many years as they search for mutual unfoldment.

I have Chiron sextile Venus like 0'43 degrees... Yeah I'm one of those people, I'm trying to work being less self sacrificing..

My s.o has Venus trine chiron exact.

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This native is very alluring to people in general; many people may fall in love with this native during the lifetime, but the native is caught in a stressful love affair which cannot ever be very pleasurable. It is always difficult to know what past-life contents in relationships are unless they have been remembered in regression, but the incidence of relationships coming from much past-life experience is continually coming up in my practice..... blah blah blah Natives with Chiron trine Venus can develop the most profound understanding about human love, but that level of understanding usually comes out of very complex and karmic relationships.

WAT this astrologer is on point, I totally feel like it's unnecessarily heavy and stressful from my s.o's perspective while I'm trying to be perfect and ever so devoted -___-....

Who has Venus conjunct Chiron?
This must be even more intense.

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aquaguy91
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posted November 27, 2013 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus quincunx Chiron, it sucks.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 27, 2013 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a really nice trine between Venus and Chiron, Leo and Aries with Chiron on the Aries descendant. 0°25a.

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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus quincunx chiron
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You could find that your journey of personal healing requires you to repeatedly re-examine your values and make adjustments. You find little or no connection between your personal comfort and values and the teachings that might offer keys for resolution of your difficulties. You might make considerable effort to bring these factors into harmony, and though it will create tension and make you uncomfortable at times, the process is creative and produces a lot of personal growth.

Does not mention too much about relationships, what do you think?

Oh this is an interesting link for everyone.
http://astrofix.net/2011/07/19/venuschiron-aspects/#.UpWOlWQfb4A

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posted November 27, 2013 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that people with venus/chiron flowing aspects could be the "healer" kind.

I have venus oppose chiron. It's not that bad. I tend to gravitate towards people who have some sort of pain, but at the same time I want to run away from them. In situations where people tell me about their pain, I usually give them a few awkward pats, really don't know what to do or say.

My s.o has venus square chiron.

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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have a really nice trine between Venus and Chiron, Leo and Aries with Chiron on the Aries descendant. 0°25a.

I have Chiron in Leo.
Fire and air chiron is probably a lot easier than water chiron?

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posted November 27, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Venus/chiron

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The key to healing is accepting yourself and others. The key to healing is enjoying life.

No problem!!!!

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posted November 27, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have Chiron in Leo.
Fire and air chiron is probably a lot easier than water chiron?


I also have Chiron opposite ascendant, Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus. It kinda sucks, I agree, just having it afflicted. I interpret it as being a healer type like 12muddy mentions. Maybe you are a healer type, too? You can use your trials and tribulations to help others instead of becoming engulfed by them and lost. You could have a healing affect through your love.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposition.

I can relate to these :-

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Love tinged with pain.Extreme sensitivity to your social relationships – where you stand, who likes you, who your friends are and who your enemies are.The dark side of wanting to be seen as beautiful and attractive.Wounded feelings surrounding your value, worth and self-esteem. Learning to like yourself. Realizing that beauty really is more than skin deep. Overcoming fears of being alluring and seductive. Learning to flirt. Learning to enjoy the pleasurable side of life.Dysfunctional relationships with money. Using pleasure as a way not to deal with pain. Using manipulation to get your way. Using charm and seduction as the path of least resistance to get what you want.Using art as a way to release pain and trauma.

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 27, 2013 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Libra Venus conjunct Libra Chiron exact in the 2nd House. (17 minutes apart)

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posted November 27, 2013 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ 17 degrees? or minutes?

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 27, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ 17 degrees? or minutes?

LOL.

I came back to change it to minutes and someone had already noticed it, lol.

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anonymidarkness
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posted November 27, 2013 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must've transformed into a Virgo Sun for a minute .

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posted November 27, 2013 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
venus quincunx chiron
Does not mention too much about relationships, what do you think?

Oh this is an interesting link for everyone.
http://astrofix.net/2011/07/19/venuschiron-aspects/#.UpWOlWQfb4A



I read another interpretation somewhere else that I liked better. It said Venus quincunx Chiron brings alot of heartache from relationships but also brings alot of wisdom in those matters.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 27, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I have Libra Venus conjunct Libra Chiron exact in the 2nd House. (17 minutes apart)

Do you feel wounded by others or by feelings of love?

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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kerosene:
[b] I have Chiron in Leo.
Fire and air chiron is probably a lot easier than water chiron?


I also have Chiron opposite ascendant, Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus. It kinda sucks, I agree, just having it afflicted. I interpret it as being a healer type like 12muddy mentions. Maybe you are a healer type, too? You can use your trials and tribulations to help others instead of becoming engulfed by them and lost. You could have a healing affect through your love.[/B][/QUOTE]

What's it like having oppositions? Maybe it's more intense with mercury because that's a personal planets.
I also have chiron sextile ascendant, and sun/moon/mercury.

I suppose healing others through my affection and love sounds much more easy, and I can sort of sniff out those who are in emotional distress and try to be a friend to them...

Ironically I don't think anyone can heal our own pain so I suppose we can just disguise it and pretend to be happy. That's what I do.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I must've transformed into a Virgo Sun for a minute .

Haha, yeah.

I was like, "Wait, I put 17 degrees apart, didn't I? Let me go fix that."

Then someone already noticed it, lol.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kerosene:
[b] I have Chiron in Leo.
Fire and air chiron is probably a lot easier than water chiron?


I also have Chiron opposite ascendant, Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus. It kinda sucks, I agree, just having it afflicted. I interpret it as being a healer type like 12muddy mentions. Maybe you are a healer type, too? You can use your trials and tribulations to help others instead of becoming engulfed by them and lost. You could have a healing affect through your love.[/B][/QUOTE

]What's it like having oppositions? Maybe it's more intense with mercury because that's a personal planets.
I also have chiron sextile ascendant, and sun/moon/mercury.

I suppose healing others through my affection and love sounds much more easy, and I can sort of sniff out those who are in emotional distress and try to be a friend to them...

Ironically I don't think anyone can heal our own pain so I suppose we can just disguise it and pretend to be happy. That's what I do.[/B][/QUOTE]
It's the best way to deal with it because people do not like others who complain about their difficulties too much, it looks too self indulgent and like having a victim complex which is a Chiron dilemma and pitfall. We can choose to help others or wallow in our own sorrow which will alienate people from us so they formulate a negative opinion. It's not beneficial. Taking on the role of healer is much better. People have a better opinion of healers and look at them as noble who have risen above their problems.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

I read another interpretation somewhere else that I liked better. It said Venus quincunx Chiron brings alot of heartache from relationships but also brings alot of wisdom in those matters.[/B]


Sean Connery has venus quincunx chiron...
Can't be too bad LOL

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posted November 27, 2013 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Do you feel wounded by others or by feelings of love?

Yeah
In love and romance. It never works out. Ever. It hasn't ever begun. I never even had a relationship yet.
Friends too I guess.
I think they are my friends then they do something that hurts my feelings. I noticed this happens the most when I'm more nicer to them.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It also opposes my ascendant and NN. I'm like the person who wants to help but ends up causing more damage. It happens sometimes. So I'm wary when someone tells me about their problems. Like, seriously why pick me.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah
In love and romance. It never works out. Ever. It hasn't ever begun. I never even had a relationship yet.
Friends too I guess.
I think they are my friends then they do something that hurts my feelings. I noticed this happens the most when I'm more nicer to them.

Some people believe guys cannot be nice because everyone will walk all over them. Maybe this is how Chiron shows up? I think it's a shame because I like it when people are nice and I wish everyone responded to it by being that way in return.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
It also opposes my ascendant and NN. I'm like the person who wants to help but ends up causing more damage. It happens sometimes. So I'm wary when someone tells me about their problems. Like, seriously why pick me.

That's what it does with me, opposes my ascendant and some ascending planets. I have a lot of negative experiences with people. Have you had some, too?

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posted November 27, 2013 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That's what it does with me, opposes my ascendant and some ascending planets. I have a lot of negative experiences with people. Have you had some, too?

Oh, it seems like we've hit the jackpot lol, if I remember correctly, it opposes my Saturn and some other planets.

Hmm some of my experiences became negative when the people who confided in me told me that I caused more problems. I used to be like "Whatttt", but then I realized that they (probably) didn't really mean it. Friends who tell me about their pain sometimes use me as their "punching bag". I'm ok with it lol

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posted November 27, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Some people believe guys cannot be nice because everyone will walk all over them. Maybe this is how Chiron shows up? I think it's a shame because I like it when people are nice and I wish everyone responded to it by being that way in return.

Yeah, me too. I have always noticed that.
When someone is nice to the other person, they either start to walk all over them or use them.

That's why I'm unsure if I should continue being the "nice guy", or start to be rather cold and less caring because it's seriously not working out or paying to be nice.

But I won't want to be with the girl that liked me for not being myself. I like being myself and being nice to them. So if she doesn't like me for being a nice guy, then I guess I will stay single then. Her loss. But in actuality, my loss I guess.

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