posted November 27, 2013 10:49 AM            

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posted November 27, 2013 11:01 AM            

I have a few different things pop up in the Chart Data that are uber cool.

posted November 27, 2013 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
I have a few different things pop up in the Chart Data that are uber cool.

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Like what? I like everything non-traditional. What software do you use?

Douxie, here I come

posted November 27, 2013 11:51 AM            

Well, it's basically very simple.
Look at the geometry in which these 2 involved;
- CHIRON
- SATURN

Chiron = GOOD (true love, endurance etc.) with exception of squares and oppositions.
Saturn = BAD (power), but grand trines with saturn are good and ofcourse the very worst are the hard aspects. Saturn balance would mitigate the harshness.

posted November 27, 2013 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
You don't necessarily need the software (I never did or never felt the need to have, probably because there was so much to discover on their sites to draw my own basic conclusions).

If you want I can take a look. Ofcourse, I would prefer the act of a true magi expert.

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yes, yes, Mir..I pretty much know how to interpret it in its basics, the problem is I can't spot all of the geometry formations. I can see a few but I am sure there are more. I just am curious what else is there in the CAC. There are so many of them in the Magi lexicon.

So far I spotted four mystical triangles in the CAC -
Chiron- Jupiter-Moon
Chiron- Neptune- Sun
Chiron- Moon - Neptune
Moon - Venus - Neptune.

There is also a Yod : Chiron- Jupiter- Sun
and two Grand Trines.

The composite contains one supposedly baaad Mystical triangle, because it invloves Saturn, Venus - Mars - Saturn, even though Saturn makes a trine to Venus and an inconjunction to Mars.
Bad or not so much?
There are three Yods in the Composite, as well, one of them being an exact -
Sun-Moon-ASC yod

The orb of all those above is within 2 degrees.

posted November 27, 2013 01:18 PM            

Are you talking about Patterns?

posted November 27, 2013 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
What is Magi?

Are you talking about Patterns?

Of course it shows those, Geocentric and Heliocentric.

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It's group of people with their own astrology interpretations. http://www.magiastrology.com/lesson1.html

btw, I am going to try Matrix tonight and see what it shows

posted November 27, 2013 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
For the Patterns?

Ha, I just left that website, interesting, thank you!

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posted November 27, 2013 03:08 PM            

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Chiron- Jupiter-Moon
Chiron- Neptune- Sun

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That's GREAT! Two *Romantic Super Linkages* (RSL's - the only signs of true love) if and only IF (ow my I love their fatalistic IF's and BUT's) there's a linkage (trine/quincunx) between the chiron of one and a planet of the other but I guess.. big chance there is.
If for example one has a Chiron/Jupiter trine of which chiron makes a square to the others Moon which on its turn makes a quincunx to Jupiter.. then it wouldn't be an RSL as there's no Chiron linkage involved.

posted November 27, 2013 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Ah ja, I get it, wel I already got

But well, you were probably already aware of the above and maybe even that TMS doesn't look at composite charts. So I'm not really fatalistic about it either haha.

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posted November 28, 2013 01:20 PM            

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For the 1st mystical triangle - Chiron - Jupiter - Moon..
He has a natal Moon-Chiron square
My Jupiter comes along and inconjuncts his Chiron and trines his Moon...

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Grreat! I already hoped a chiron/Jupiter linkage (linkage = always an *interaspect*, so: between 2 charts) in this MT.

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with the other mystical triangle Chiron - Neptune - Sun
I have a natal Sun-Neptune square and his Chiron trines my Neptune and inconjuncts my Sun.

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Great! Can't be any better! Also here I hoped to see a Chiron/Neptune linkage..

Chiron/Jupiter and Chiron/Neptune linkages are the very best to have as they signify the ultimate version of true love and endurance. You see these linkages in 8 out of 10 (?) longterm couples (looking in all 4 dimensions helio/geo & declinations/latitudes) and if there's a connection with another planet then it's called an RSL (romantic super linkage), THE one & only sign for true love.
Ofcourse, there are RSL's in all sorts and sizes but it depends on the planets (in number) AND geometry how strong it is.
In your case.. verry strong! Chiron linkages with Jupiter and Neptune are THE ones (venus would also be nice and to a lesser degree the Sun and Mars) and they're even involved in verrry strong geometry, 2 mystical triangles!
BUT... it's even more interesting as I see both MT's are at the least interlocked as it's his Chiron in both cases (chiron feels the most so he must be madly in love with u).

So,
His Chiron-Moon square
Your Neptune-Sun square (AND Jupiter).

I wonder... are the orbs too wide to make a complete pic here? One interaspect may have an orb of max 4, the others within 3.
I'm thinking of an *Iron Butterfly* which are 2 interconnected MT's. Then there must be a sextile between your Sun and his Moon (IF I see it right)..

posted November 28, 2013 02:59 PM            

There are 3 possible symmetrical results when there are 2 interconnected Mystical Triangles.

- The IRON BUTTERFLY

A minimum of four planets forming a parallelogram with 2 squares on sides, 1 trine at base, 2 quincunxes inside, and a sextile on top.

- The FLYING EAGLE

Four or more planets forming a parallelogram with 2 trines on sides, 1 square at base, 2 quincunxes inside, and a semi-sextile at the top.

- NO NAME (I'm not aware of one).

Four or more planets forming a parallelogram with 2 squares on sides, 1 quincunx at base, 2 trines inside and a semi-sextile at the top.

posted November 28, 2013 03:57 PM            

I think its an iron butterfly but its hard for me to see.. His Moon definitely sextilles my Sun at 3 degrees applying.

We actually have 3 mystical triangles with Chiron, the third one, which i added yesterday, is of Chiron- Neptune - Moon.
His Chiron - Moon square and my Neptune trines his Chiron and inconjuntcs his Moon.

All three MT above have very tight orbits between 0 and 2 degrees.
His Chiron conjuncts his North Node and it aspects several of my planets in a very tight orbit.

I like the Chiron- Jupiter, Chiron- Neptune and Chiron - Sun linkages a lot. Actually, his Chiron forms a 0 degree Yod with my exact Sun-Jupiter sextille.

The bad clash we have is his Saturn opposing my Venus at 3.30 degree. The rest of the Saturn links are trines and sextilles. Another clash is my Pluto opposing his Venus at 0 degree and squaring his Moon at 1 degree. Overall, Its a good synastry , though.

posted November 28, 2013 09:12 PM            

his natal Moon - Chiron square is the base.
his Moon sends a trine to my Jupiter to form the outer side of the eagle and his Chiron sends a trine to my Neptune to form the other side. His Chiron sends an inconjunct to my Jupiter to make the inner side, and his Moon sends an inconjunct to my Neptune to form the other inner side.. The eagle is completed with a semi sextille at the two tops between Jupiter and Neptune. Awww..looking so awesome! Thanks for making me dig for this discovery!