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Topic: Myers-Brigs Type Inventory and Astrology
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mcmlxix
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From: Jupiter
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posted November 30, 2013 03:12 PM
  
Ok...I'm sure this has been done here before, but for those who haven't participated, why not do it again...If you don't know your Myers-Briggs type, there are several online tests. It might be helpful to define terms, and the way I understand the MBTI terms are like this: Introvert vs Extrovert isn't about how sociable the person is, but where they draw their energy from...them self or from others respectively. Sensor vs Intuitive is where someone gets their information...more from their 5 senses or more from their 6th sense. Thinker vs Feeler is how someone processes their information...through logic or feeling respectively. Judger vs Perceiver is how someone presents their information and interacts with their environment...with a preference for structure and specificity or a preference for open-endedness and ambiguity... It might even be good to debate these terms, especially how they dovetail with astrology.
I'm an INTP...which has been called the Thinker, the Architect, the Philosopher, the Absent Professor, etc.
I
Virgo Sun
Cancer Moon
Mars in the 4th
Sun trine Saturn N
Mercury, Uranus & Jupiter stellium
Cancer Moon trine Scorpio Neptune
Scorpio & Neptune in the 3rd
NN in Pisces T
Sun in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Moon in the 11th
Saturn in the 9th P
Mars in Sag
Uranus in the 2nd
Libra stellium
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Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 03:39 PM
INTP's are usually seen as jer*s cause some of them are quite arrogant and have a know-it-all attitude. Blunt speech sometimes.
Although I'm pretty sure ESTP's are worse because they're usually really bold and quite tactless (generalizing here of course).
I don't have much personal experience with the types... All I know is that P's and S's don't usually mesh well because they have completely different ways of processing information and communication tends to be complicated with lots of misunderstandings and frustration.
That's been true in my experience.Sensor types usually have a strong emphasis on Fire signs / Mars and Earth. Intuitive Feelers (NF) have prominent Air and Water placements most often than not... Judging types probably have solid Earth placements or a well-aspected Saturn. Perceivers - Probably heavy mutable placements. -
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6H stellium
Saturn 11H
N
Scorpio stellium
12H SN
Sun sextile Ur/Nep F
Heavily-aspected Moon (5H)
Water placements
Cancer IC P
Gemini ASC
Sun sextile Ur/Nep
ASC ssqq. Ur/Nep (?) IP: Logged |
mcmlxix
Knowflake Posts: 297
From: Jupiter
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 30, 2013 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
INTP's are usually seen as jer*s cause some of them are quite arrogant and have a know-it-all attitude. Blunt speech sometimes.
I'm not sure an INTP is genuinely arrogant, as much as we don't have much in the way of "emotional intelligence". We tend to live in a rather abstract world. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 03:55 PM
Yes, that, too.I've noticed - especially on typology forums - that whenever someone disagrees with a Thinking type or makes a statement that is deemed "emotional" and not "rational", it's like it engenders WW3, lmao. A lot of people are biased and think that T types are robots with no feelings and super intellectual and that F types are mushy gummybears who can't ever use their brains.
The superior attitude comes from the fact that lots of T types actually consider themselves smarter than other types and don't take the time to consider other people's POV's... although that can be said of many people, not necessarily T types.
F types can be too sensitive and easily offended though... It's quite funny to watch.
Interactions between F's and T's and S's and P's are usually quite entertaining and sometimes agitated, ha. What types do you get along with best, mcm? IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted November 30, 2013 04:03 PM
a hopelessly typical ENFP reporting inTaurus moon
venus in aqua conj mars in pisces
mercury in Sagi (capacity for making mess!)
have i named everything that was crucial? IP: Logged |
mcmlxix
Knowflake Posts: 297
From: Jupiter
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posted November 30, 2013 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
What types do you get along with best, mcm?
Good question...definitely Ns & Ps. I find Ss and Js worldview way too constricting. I'm more comfortable with Is, but sometimes need the kick in the butt an E can provide. I like having discussions a lot better with Ts, but have an appreciation for Fs who can pull me out of my head and into my heart. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 04:16 PM
andstuff,ENFP? Aren't you supposed to be the motivator, the one who inspires others?  - mcm, It's funny cause you're not the only T type to say that.
I find it a bit odd that T types can enjoy F types because I always assume you get tired of all the feelings floating around and the sentimentality or lack of... realism. I wonder if I've ever known an ISTJ... They seem pretty interesting. Edit: I meant INTJ!! O, God. 
Wonder about ENFJ's as well.
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mcmlxix
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From: Jupiter
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posted November 30, 2013 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It's funny cause you're not the only T type to say that.
I find it a bit odd that T types can enjoy F types because I always assume you get tired of all the feelings floating around and the sentimentality or lack of... realism.
Ah but...the 7th house is the house of relationships...opposites attract and all that. I don't think if two people had every indicator different it would be a good match, but there has to be enough difference where they can learn from the other what they lack. Edit: I also don't think that of all the Ts, INTPs are known for their realism...my self at least, I'm more concerned with what could be rather than what is. Sentimentality...I just don't 'get'. Sometimes I find it irritating, but usually just amusing. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 30, 2013 04:32 PM
ENTJ here. The Leader. No surprises for me. Don't know about the astrology. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 04:52 PM
Oh yes, ASC vs. DSC, good point.
Some people are more attracted to those who are similar to them while others are attracted to their "opposites"... I wonder what that depends on?
YTA,
Oh, you're an N type? I would've thought you were a Sensor.  But then again, there probably aren't many S types on an astrology forum. IP: Logged |
mcmlxix
Knowflake Posts: 297
From: Jupiter
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 30, 2013 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Some people are more attracted to those who are similar to them while others are attracted to their "opposites"... I wonder what that depends on?But then again, there probably aren't many S types on an astrology forum.
Uranian energy could account for seeking out differentness. Plutonic for interest in the unknown. Saturnian for finding comfort in the tried & true. Whether one identifies with their SN or NN. Which houses they fall in. I think you're probably right. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 05:33 PM
I agree with Uranus and Saturn... The Nodes make sense as well. However Plutonians would probably seek out someone who's on the same wavelength because they want to be understood; although I can see how initially, differences might seem attractive (= challenges are often intriguing). Most people probably like a bit of both - some common ground but some differences as well.I was wondering about something, do you think personality types can change during a life-time? I've read they're pretty much set in stone but still wonder just how "fixed" they are (blame my P here, haha). IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 30, 2013 05:37 PM
INTJI
Virgo Sun
Pisces Saturn
Sun in the 2nd House N
Scorpio Mars and Pluto
Pisces Saturn
Sagittarius Jupiter
Moon in the 11th House T
Virgo Sun
Gemini Moon
Mercury in the 3rd House
Sagittarius Jupiter J
Virgo Sun
Libra Mercury
Libra Venus
Capricorn Uranus and Neptune
Leo Ascendant
Air and Earth dominant IP: Logged |
mcmlxix
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From: Jupiter
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posted November 30, 2013 05:39 PM
I can only speak for myself...fixed.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 05:43 PM
Mercurian,You're the guy who has the same Venus / Mars combo as me. 
And you're the INTJ! Yay! Finally found you, hahaha.
Yeah personality types are probably pretty impossible to change once they're fully developed. Mhm.
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nove731
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posted November 30, 2013 05:43 PM
I'm an INTP as well.I
Virgo Ascendant
Taurus Mercury
Mercury in the 8th
Capricorn Stellium
Venus in the 6th N
Sun in Aries
Moon in Sagittarius
Jupiter conjunct MC
Venus in Pisces T
Virgo Ascendant
Mars in Aquarius
Air Singleton
Sun in the 7th
Moon in the 3rd P
Moon in Sagittarius
Venus in Pisces
Mercury trine Uranus/Neptune IP: Logged |
ail221
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From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon
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posted November 30, 2013 05:44 PM
INTJIntroverted & iNtuitive
Cancer Sun
Taurus Asc Thinking & Judging
Sun/Jupiter in 3rd opposite Saturn in 9th
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted November 30, 2013 05:46 PM
INFP
Introvert(61%) iNtuitive(12%) Feeling(25%) Perceiving(61)%
You have distinctive preference of Introversion over Extraversion (61%)
Sun in Virgo/ moon in Taurus
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
Pisces north node/Virgo South node/12th house Mercury/8th house moon in Taurus.
You have moderate preference of Feeling over Thinking (25%)
12th house Mercury/8th house Moon/Pisces North Node
You have distinctive preference of Perceiving over Judging (61%)
Jupiter in 12/moon in 8.Doux, I have the same as yours! Must be all that 6th and 12th houses! IP: Logged |
mcmlxix
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posted November 30, 2013 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
J
Virgo Sun
Libra Mercury
Libra Venus
Capricorn Uranus and Neptune
Leo Ascendant
Air and Earth dominant
I'd think Libra would be more P than J. That's how I interpreted it for myself. I suppose cardinal signs would be more J, but Libra is always weighing information, not always coming up with a firm conclusion, and willing to change their position based on new information. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 30, 2013 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Mercurian,You're the guy who has the same Venus / Mars combo as me.
And you're the INTJ! Yay! Finally found you, hahaha.
Yeah personality types are probably pretty impossible to change once they're fully developed. Mhm.
Haha, cool
You found me! 
Someone mentioned that you shared the same Venus/Mars combo with me or something? IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 30, 2013 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
I'd think Libra would be more P than J. That's how I interpreted it for myself. I suppose cardinal signs would be more J, but Libra is always weighing information, not always coming up with a firm conclusion, and willing to change their position based on new information.
Yes, and that's judging, not perceiving.
Judging doesn't necessarily mean they come to instant conclusions all the time. And Libra does do that on certain things sometimes. If it's illogical, they will completely discredit it half the time.
That's why they are ruled by Venus, because they have discriminating tastes, therefore, judging.
Libra also judges people a lot. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted November 30, 2013 06:01 PM
Extroverted (E) 51.72% Introverted (I) 48.28%
Intuitive (N) 56.41% Sensing (S) 43.59%
Thinking (T) 54.55% Feeling (F) 45.45%
Perceiving (P) 51.61% Judging (J) 48.39% i usually get ENTP or INTP
i'm a leo IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 30, 2013 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Haha, cool
You found me!
Someone mentioned that you shared the same Venus/Mars combo with me or something?
I always find everyone. No, no one mentioned it but I've never told you that we have the same combo. There are (or used to be) some people who have it as well, but it's not that common, I believe. The other day there was a thread where you were talking about your view on relationships and I pretty much agreed with most things you said, though I didn't comment. quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
i'm a leo
Love how exhaustive your comment is. - I think Libra is more J than P. Cardinal energy, after all. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted November 30, 2013 06:11 PM
I usually get ESFP or ENFPMarilyn monroe and JFK are ESFP might be a gem thing IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted November 30, 2013 06:11 PM
Cripes. ... I haven't the faintest idea.2H 19 Libra Sun
STJE
3H 24 Scorpio Moon
FTNIP
3H 14 Scorpio Mercury
FTNEP
12H 08 Virgo Venus
ISNJF
3H 00 Sagittarius Mars
TFEP
1H 26 Virgo Jupiter
SJE
1H 02 Libra Saturn
SJTI
3H 23 Scorpio Uranus
TNFPI
4H 20 Sagittarius Neptune
NIFPE
2H 21 Libra Pluto
STJI
12H 18 Leo NNode
FIN
6H 18 Aquarius SNode
ETP ... Hokay. Yeah, off-the-cuff, that mostly jives. I'm XNXX, leaning slightly towards 'I' and 'T'. Lot of contradictory influences, however. I also know that looking strictly at elements and modes can be beneficial. In high school, I ran a little study evaluating that, finding that those with predominance of Fire and Water definitely tended to be Feelers / Intuitive - conversely with the Earth / Air, Thinkers and Sensors. I can't recall how the modes worked. Been too long!
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