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CAY_512
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posted November 30, 2013 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom just told me about this woman named Georgia Tann cause they had a documentary about her on TV. I looked at her chart but I don't know what made her so evil.

No birthtime so her moon could be in Sag or Cap.



"Tann used pressure tactics, threats of legal action and other methods to take children from their birth parents—mostly poor single mothers—and sell them to wealthy patrons. Tann also arranged for the taking of children born to inmates at Tennessee mental institutions and those born to wards of the state through her connections.

Tann also arranged for what her victims (now adult) refer to as kidnapping. In some cases, single parents would drop their children off at nursery schools, only to be told that welfare agents had taken the children. In others, children would be temporarily placed with the society because a family was experiencing illness or unemployment, only to find out later that the Society had either adopted them out, or had no record of the children ever being placed. Tann was also documented as taking children born to unwed mothers at birth, claiming that the newborns required medical care. When the mothers asked about the children, Tann told them that the babies had died, when they were actually placed in foster homes or adopted."


She also let little sick babies die. Or wouldn't feed them.

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posted November 30, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have never heard of her. where was the documentary?

if you know her birth place and used a noon chart - then it would be sag moon.

it only goes about 6.5 degrees both ways from noon charts. the moon moves an average of .5 degrees an hour! so it's best to use noon charts for unknown birthtimes and known birth places for this reason

apparently it moves 13 degrees everyday.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/mentalchemistry.html

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posted November 30, 2013 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's the mother of Adoption in the US and they cite her as the source for modern adoption. I saw her on Discovery I.D.'s Deadly Women series last night. She is the one who let Joan Crawford adopt Christopher and Christina, the ones in Mommy Dearest if you have seen that movie.

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posted November 30, 2013 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
She's the mother of Adoption in the US and they cite her as the source for modern adoption. I saw her on Discovery I.D.'s Deadly Women series last night. She is the one who let Joan Crawford adopt Christopher and Christina, the ones in Mommy Dearest if you have seen that movie.

thanks, i 'll see if it's playing and record it

on a similar topic: has anyone seen the movie, An American Crime? It's with Ellen Paige on Netflix streaming. It's based on a true story that I hadn't heard about before I saw it. The Sylvia Likens case

idk why i capitalized so much there ^ unlike me

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posted December 01, 2013 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars at 29 degrees in Cancer is the strongest aspect in her chart. That's why she was so evil. Mars in Cancer is usually passive aggressive but badly affected AND at 29 degrees can become the other way round. Brrr!!

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posted December 01, 2013 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancers gone wild lol.

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posted December 01, 2013 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this on tv once. I one read that people with gem/can influences can be evil.

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posted December 01, 2013 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The story of Georgia Tann is one of intrigue, fascination, horror, disbelief and many more words of description. It is a story of a very influential woman who was born and raised in Hickory, Mississippi. She achieved a position of outstanding prominence. She was very wealthy and fraternized with the elite. Her life was one of fraternizing with the elite. Eleanor Roosevelt sought her counsel regarding child welfare. Pearl Buck asked her to collaborate on a book about adoption. She received a personal invitation to President Truman's Inauguration. She traveled in politically elite circles. And, while doing all of this, she visited with her mother often in Hickory. The beautiful Tann home, which is the second oldest home in Hickory, is located near Highway 503. There are residents in the home today and the home still has visions of grandeur.

Georgia Tann is buried in the Hickory Cemetery along with her parents, George Clark Tann and Beulah Yates Tann, and her brother, Rob Roy Tann. It is a very nice Tann burial plot. Standing over Georgia's grave in the Hickory Cemetery, the average person would never know the controversy she stirred up during her lifetime. She had one of the largest black markets for children ever seen in the United States. From 1924 to 1950, Georgia Tann stole, or otherwise separated, more than 5,000 children from their families.

Louise Bailey and I have long been interested in the Georgia Tann story and, in 2009, conducted extensive research on her activities using both primary and secondary sources as well as many interviews. A major source of information came from the book The Baby Thief by Barbara Raymond. The television movie, "Stolen Babies," was released in 1993 with Mary Tyler Moore portraying Georgia Tann. Articles on Tann's life also have been published in Good Housekeeping magazine. The Meridian Star did an article on Georgia Tann on March 25, 1993. Georgia Tann also gained national media attention on television series such as "Unsolved Mysteries" and “Probe."

We do not know much about Georgia's young years in Hickory. Georgia's father was the most influential person in her life. Her feelings toward him were a mix of love and hate, or wanting to prove herself to him and to defy him. Georgia's parents were Judge George Clark Tann and Beulah Yates Tann. George Clark Tann's grandfather had served under William Henry Harrison at the Battle of Tippecanoe and his father was a Confederate war hero. George himself was the most educated man in Newton County and Judge of the Mississippi Second Chancery District Court. While George was respected, he was not well liked for he was arrogant, argumentative, and domineering. Georgia had a brother, Rob Roy Tann, who was three years older. While serving in World War I, he suffered what was then called shell shock and for the rest of his life suffered from tremors. He died of tuberculosis at age 46.

Georgia majored in music and, after graduating in 1913 from Martha Washington College in Abingdon, Virginia, she taught school briefly in Columbus, Mississippi. However, she lacked the patience for teaching and may well have considered it an old-fashioned profession.

Georgia was also familiar with social work, at that time in its infancy, having long practiced a form of it herself. Charity work was a refuge during her adolescence, perhaps providing an excuse for her absence from local parties and dances. While other girls primped for the parties, she put on starched, long-sleeved blouses and skirts that swept the floor and visited the local poor.

By 1920, exploiting the lack of regulations on adoption and her father's position as a judge, Tann began placing children she had kidnapped from poor women. Georgia began working for Kate McWillie Powers Receiving Home for Children in Jackson which was affiliated with the Mississippi Children's Home Society. Georgia was run out of Mississippi for her "child-placing" methods and went to Texas. Georgia then moved to Memphis, TN. She became Executive Director of the Memphis branch of the Tennessee Children's Home Society.

Barbara Raymond said in her book, The Baby Thief, "Scores of children in the custody of Tann's Tennessee Children's Home Society died, making Memphis' infant mortality rate the highest in the country. Yet Tann was publicly lauded for her work. She also amassed a personal fortune selling children to the wealthy (including actors June Allyson, Dick Powell, and Joan Crawford). Virtually no robbed parents got their children back."
There seemed to be no end to the pain that Georgia caused. While building her black market business, she had invented modern American adoption. To cover her kidnapping crimes, she falsified adoptees birth certificates, issued false certificates, and portrayed their adoptive parents as their birth parents.

In 1950, the Tennessee Governor finally acknowledged Georgia's crimes. The adoptive parents could not bring themselves to investigate whether their children had been stolen for fear of having to return them.

Georgia had many accomplices: Politicians, legislators, judges, attorneys, doctors, nurses, and social workers who scouted child victims. She operated for 26 years. It was not until she was three days from death with cancer that a Tennessee official told of her crimes.

If the story of Georgia Tann teaches us anything, it is the importance of ridding adoption of lies and secrets. Thankfully, much as been done since Georgia's death to help parents find children through well respected adoption agencies.
http://www.nchgs.org/html/a_story_of_stolen_babies.html

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posted December 01, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CAY_512:
My mom just told me about this woman named Georgia Tann cause they had a documentary about her on TV. I looked at her chart but I don't know what made her so evil.


The promise of easy money, maybe? I'd really like to have a tob on her, and check out her 2nd house. As is, it is interesting that she has a really tight square of Moon and Jupiter, opposing Saturn in a wider orb. I'm thinking of what people have been recently saying about sociopaths having strong Jupiter. And I'm really fascinated by the presence of Neptune conjunct Pluto sitting on her NN, even if that is generational.

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posted December 01, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info, Dee. Deadly Women didn't provide nearly as many details.

It's just so weird with Venus in Cancer, and the other placements there, you would think she would be the epitome of love and caring toward the infants. Venus in Cancer is a wonderful nurturer and care giver, usually.

Moon has a lot to say in it, and chart ruler. If the moon was in Capricorn, she would have had a difficult time expressing those Cancerian urges, perhaps? Maybe with the moon in Sagittarius it clashed with some Gemini placements and caused her to have a somewhat elitist, self righteous attitude? If she was born around the time the moon was at 19 Sag, the squares to Jupiter in Pisces and Saturn in Virgo indicate she had serious disillusionment about caring for that many babies and could have been blind sighted by profit.

What if the chart ruler and moon were in affliction with one another?

And another thing that made her so evil is so many people supported her and let her get away with it. She has ultimate responsibility for most of it, but, when you have judges and politicians supporting something like that and praising her efforts, it just makes it easier for her to continue on without modifying anything. This is why people need to be regulated imo, or they start doing what she does and if no one says they can't it just becomes a huge disaster. A few regulations on Ms Tann in the beginning was all that was needed. None of this would have happened with a bit of pressure, her being a society gal and all. She would have been way too sensitive to public scrutiny and bad press.
No checks and balances. She needed pressure from the top.

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