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JennsenS2
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posted December 02, 2013 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno how to interpret these following aspects :

In the synastry chart
A's Venus trine B's Saturn and B's Venus sextile A's Saturn
And A's Venus trine B's Uranus and B's Venus sextile A's Uranus
A's Venus sextile B's Sun

Now the worst part...

In the composite chart
Venus square Saturn
Venus square Uranus
Venus square Mars

Will the soft aspects in the synastry chart help to manage the hard aspects in the composite chart ?

Thank you for you help .

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posted December 02, 2013 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the chart if you want an analysis.

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posted December 02, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Post the chart if you want an analysis.

Here the charts .


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posted December 02, 2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite doesn't look too good. The relationship is karmic yet fated to happen. Sun is good in 1st house. Venus on the other hand not good in 12th. This could indicate that the relationship is secret. Like an affair. Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in 4th. Again not good. Better an empty 4th house than hard planets in this house. Where is supposed to be yourt home. Your soul. Your comfort zone. Everything. Are you two coworkers or something?
Moon is in 8th with Venus in 12th. Good Heaven, this isnt good. Your feelings for each other cannot be expressed and shown properly. There is no comfort between you two. Yeah, that trine in the composite can make you two have a relationship, a solid one but from what I can see... is more like a secret one. Vertex ruler is in 10th house. Or you two work together or you are meant to work together. Dunno. If this relationship goes public I don't think people will take it good.
The synastry doesn't look good either. Mars in over 4th house ( abusive home enviroment. If you two move together is gonna be hellish)
Saturn and Uranus over 1st house. On/off relationship. NN over 4th house. Vertex over 12th. Damn... this is too karmic. You two have come together to learn some things. Vertex over 12th house is definitely not a good position for Vertex. Something happened in a past life with one of you and now the other came to make amends.

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posted December 02, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The composite doesn't look too good. The relationship is karmic yet fated to happen. Sun is good in 1st house. Venus on the other hand not good in 12th. This could indicate that the relationship is secret. Like an affair. Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in 4th. Again not good. Better an empty 4th house than hard planets in this house. Where is supposed to be yourt home. Your soul. Your comfort zone. Everything. Are you two coworkers or something?
Moon is in 8th with Venus in 12th. Good Heaven, this isnt good. Your feelings for each other cannot be expressed and shown properly. There is no comfort between you two. Yeah, that trine in the composite can make you two have a relationship, a solid one but from what I can see... is more like a secret one. Vertex ruler is in 10th house. Or you two work together or you are meant to work together. Dunno. If this relationship goes public I don't think people will take it good.
The synastry doesn't look good either. Mars in over 4th house ( abusive home enviroment. If you two move together is gonna be hellish)
Saturn and Uranus over 1st house. On/off relationship. NN over 4th house. Vertex over 12th. Damn... this is too karmic. You two have come together to learn some things. Vertex over 12th house is definitely not a good position for Vertex. Something happened in a past life with one of you and now the other came to make amends.

We live in two different countries two different continents, almost two different worlds. We met on the Internet. Nobody knows about us.
We don't work together nor will work together but we do have the same job, same field.

I'm the one who's drawn to him and I don't know why. I can't help myself. And you're right it's kinda an on/off relationship. I was there when the worst things happened to him. He lost everything, the love of his life and his job. It was like hell for him.

Next year, when I'll go to see him, transiting NN will conjunct my Natal Venus and at the same time transiting Venus will conjunct my Natal NN respectively orb 0.67 and orb 3.57. Moon will transit my 7th house and transiting Juno will conjunct my Natal Jupiter in 5th house. I don't know whether it means something.

One last thing about our time of birth, we do know our exact hour of birth but not minutes.

Should I run away ?

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posted December 02, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry double post

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posted December 02, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Its a FATED and KARMIC relatioship so until the karma is burnt off you can't run away.
2. You love him right? Why would you run away?
3. I say for the moment stay. Meet him in person, see what kind of man is he in real life and if you think its your match and can work it out, why not? Love can conquer all. Even astrology.
4. The moment things start to get worse, I say run.

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posted December 02, 2013 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello JennsenS2! Welcome to LL

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posted December 02, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello JennsenS2! Welcome to LL


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posted December 02, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
1. Its a FATED and KARMIC relatioship so until the karma is burnt off you can't run away.
2. You love him right? Why would you run away?
3. I say for the moment stay. Meet him in person, see what kind of man is he in real life and if you think its your match and can work it out, why not? Love can conquer all. Even astrology.
4. The moment things start to get worse, I say run.

I'm scared of not being strong enough... there are so many bad aspects in these charts. Can this relationship last ?

Thank you for your analysis. I couldn't have done that by myself.

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posted December 02, 2013 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JennsenS2:
I'm scared of not being strong enough... there are so many bad aspects in these charts. Can this relationship last ?

Thank you for your analysis. I couldn't have done that by myself.


If it lasts or not its up to you. Make sure he feels the same for you. You are welcome.

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posted December 02, 2013 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
If it lasts or not its up to you. Make sure he feels the same for you. You are welcome.

Are there aspects indicating that a relationship is meant to end ?

Are there any helping aspects in these charts ?

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posted December 02, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JennsenS2:
Are there aspects indicating that a relationship is meant to end ?

Are there any helping aspects in these charts ?


Sweetie, all relationships come to an end. Nothing lasts forever. Not here on Earth. Karmic ones ARE meant to end sooner or later.

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posted December 02, 2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Sweetie, all relationships come to an end. Nothing lasts forever. Not here on Earth. Karmic ones ARE meant to end sooner or later.

Ok . I guess I'll have to take things as they come. As I can't run away xD...

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posted December 03, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 25, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennsenS2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to confirm (like many people who have experienced those aspects before me) that having Venus square both Uranus and Saturn in composite chart is a relationship doomed from the start, too many roadblocks and even an unrequited love. Venus also conjunct South Node in 12th house in the composite chart. The asteroid Karma is in the composite 12th house as well. Composite Moon and Jupiter are in 8th house.

In the synastry chart, we have :
- His Karma conjunct my Sun and my Karma conjunct his Venus with both a tight orb 1
- His Sun conjunct my South Node and his Mars conjunct my North Node with also both a tight orb 1
- His Juno and Valentine conjunct my Vertex (orb 1)
- My Valentine opposite his vertex (orb 1)
- His North Node falling in my 4th house and my South Node falling in his 4th house.

However, I think it didn't work because :
- We have a Sun/Moon opposition with me as the Sun and him as the Moon
- There is no Venus/Mars aspects
- Moons are not compatible, Aries moon and Taurus moon
- No personal planets of one falling in the 5th, 7th or 8th house of the other
- Only Venus/Saturn and Venus/Uranus soft aspects (sextile and trine) double whammy
- Mars opposite Mars aspect.

Rosalind, could all the karma be burnt off even if we haven't met in real life ? Could the debt be paid off through an online relationship or this will happen again in our next lives ? He overcame a painful break-up and I got a painful life lesson, do these count like paid off ?


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posted December 26, 2013 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JennsenS2:
I just wanted to confirm (like many people who have experienced those aspects before me) that having Venus square both Uranus and Saturn in composite chart is a relationship doomed from the start, too many roadblocks and even an unrequited love. Venus also conjunct South Node in 12th house in the composite chart. The asteroid Karma is in the composite 12th house as well. Composite Moon and Jupiter are in 8th house.

In the synastry chart, we have :
- His Karma conjunct my Sun and my Karma conjunct his Venus with both a tight orb 1
- His Sun conjunct my South Node and his Mars conjunct my North Node with also both a tight orb 1
- His Juno and Valentine conjunct my Vertex (orb 1)
- My Valentine opposite his vertex (orb 1)
- His North Node falling in my 4th house and my South Node falling in his 4th house.

However, I think it didn't work because :
- We have a Sun/Moon opposition with me as the Sun and him as the Moon
- There is no Venus/Mars aspects
- Moons are not compatible, Aries moon and Taurus moon
- No personal planets of one falling in the 5th, 7th or 8th house of the other
- Only Venus/Saturn and Venus/Uranus soft aspects (sextile and trine) double whammy
- Mars opposite Mars aspect.

Rosalind, could all the karma be burnt off even if we haven't met in real life ? Could the debt be paid off through an online relationship or this will happen again in our next lives ? He overcame a painful break-up and I got a painful life lesson, do these count like paid off ?



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