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Topic: What makes this human THE clingiest and neediest I've met??
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3516 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 03, 2013 01:38 PM
Sun, Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Uranus, Lilith in Libra 3H. Moon, Mars, NN in Aquarius 7H Saturn in Gemini 10H Jupiter in Sagittarius 5HMy Cancer stellium in 11H can't deal with it.. IP: Logged |
xcessdenied Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 03, 2013 05:54 PM
are you sure they are 'needy' ? People with a lot of air in their charts can be very talkative and can seem 'clingy' i suppose since they r way too friendly often, but they are not needy or clingy in the same way cancerians or water dominants are i.e. 'emotionally' speaking. From my own experience with people having dominant air in their charts, they just love to converse and 'hang out'. They will be sitting on your couch talking till 3 am while you are trying your best to stay awake and stay polite. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3516 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 03, 2013 06:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by xcessdenied: are you sure they are 'needy' ? People with a lot of air in their charts can be very talkative and can seem 'clingy' i suppose since they r way too friendly often, but they are not needy or clingy in the same way cancerians or water dominants are i.e. 'emotionally' speaking. From my own experience with people having dominant air in their charts, they just love to converse and 'hang out'. They will be sitting on your couch talking till 3 am while you are trying your best to stay awake and stay polite.
100% needy and clingy. And talks about his feelings all day and all night and personally it's a turn off. Like he will not talk about anything else whereas my feelings are slightly more universal.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 03, 2013 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by xcessdenied: are you sure they are 'needy' ? People with a lot of air in their charts can be very talkative and can seem 'clingy' i suppose since they r way too friendly often, but they are not needy or clingy in the same way cancerians or water dominants are i.e. 'emotionally' speaking. From my own experience with people having dominant air in their charts, they just love to converse and 'hang out'. They will be sitting on your couch talking till 3 am while you are trying your best to stay awake and stay polite.
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summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 03, 2013 06:15 PM
Seriously Libras talk nonstop. They are needy in terms of needing a listening ear. It's quite a turnoff.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 03, 2013 06:49 PM
Libras cling but then they back off. Find out why he is being so clingy. Is it because he feels insecure? I am normally the opposite of clingy but if I am unsure I will cling to whomever I am with just because they are there. When balanced, Libras do not cling.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10848 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 03, 2013 06:57 PM
How is his Jupiter aspected (to what)?IP: Logged |
xcessdenied Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 03, 2013 08:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: 100% needy and clingy. And talks about his feelings all day and all night and personally it's a turn off. Like he will not talk about anything else whereas my feelings are slightly more universal.
Air signs do tend to do that. I even have seen fire/air dominated aquarians do the same, and they also tend to make themselves focus of the entire thing which can become a drag after a while. Even my libra dominated boss cannot stop discussing any topic, for hours!!!! But air dominated people are likely going to bounce back and forth in my opinion ... it is just a lot of 'mental' energy vs 'emotional'. Add a dose of uranus to personal planets and it adds to erratic energies. Plus most of the house placements are in outgoing houses. You might also note that they are the same way with anyone they meet, it isn't exclusive to you? Plus your stellium of Cancer in house of Aquarius will make you a lot more 'emotionally attached to humanity' vs one person? Finally, are you sure they have a libra stellium in 11th? IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1710 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 03, 2013 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: 100% needy and clingy. And talks about his feelings all day and all night and personally it's a turn off. Like he will not talk about anything else whereas my feelings are slightly more universal.
If his IC or 4th House cusp is in Libra or Scorpio, both of those rulers (Venus or Pluto) are in his 3rd House. Maybe he feels the need to talk about his emotions? Especially with his Moon (needs) in the 7th House (another air sign cusp, Libra) Aquarius, it's how he relates to others, through communication. He's got his 3rd House cusp in Libra, both of those are airy influence since the 3rd House is usually Gemini and then you have Mercury sitting in that 3rd House. He's very very talkative. Also, are you seeing this from your interaction with him alone or through seeing him around others too? If the former, your synastry together could be affecting him in that way. As in, you are influencing this clingy side of him to show itself. IP: Logged |
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posted December 03, 2013 08:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Libras cling but then they back off. Find out why he is being so clingy. Is it because he feels insecure? I am normally the opposite of clingy but if I am unsure I will cling to whomever I am with just because they are there. When balanced, Libras do not cling.
Oh that makes so much sense now! The first couple months or so are USUALLY just the toughest for me. I'm not myself when it comes to being clingy, etc. Gotta get comfortable and balanced. I think it's because the first couple months are kind of like... "S**t.... my life is out of balance. They've disrupted it. (not that I mind ). I gotta balance things again within myself." I always have the intention to stay with that person - commit. (Leo?) So I want to find the balance of life to include that person in it. It's a lot of anxiety until I feel that I've found it. I keep looking at the 3rd house list. I wonder what's touching or making aspects. Venus, pluto, Mercury... etc. There's a lot of important stuff there, in Libra. Pluto in Libra too. Possibly obsessed and determined to keep balance of mind and love.... communication. As Libra rising with Pluto, I have the same obsession with keeping balance of myself. (Exercise, diet, knowledge, attitude. Balance of relationships - friends/family) IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 03, 2013 09:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Seriously Libras talk nonstop. They are needy in terms of needing a listening ear. It's quite a turnoff.
Can we not do a Sun sign lump, please? All Librans are NOT this way - at all. If you must be Sun-oriented, Geminians. Oh, God, they can chatter. But so can ANY sign. Look at Mercury's positioning. And I second 'Libra energy does not cling'. It doesn't. Quite a few schizoids I know with Libra strong.
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mercuryflow Knowflake Posts: 177 From: ElvenForest Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 03, 2013 10:22 PM
i've actually encountered 3 libras who 'cling'….badly. i've had other threads about this subject on other sites, and it seems that there is definitely a strain of libra that cling and seem to demand and drain energy from others. i think in their quest for balance, if they have any self=absorption, they will take ''too much'' from others to balance themselves…without realizing the off-balance they are actually creating. having said that, we are each responsible for our own balance, and if you allow someone to cling and therefor drain you, you need to find the appropriate boundaries to draw. it can be challenging as libras can be charming and you won't even realize it's happening until you start resenting it. i imagine with your cancer stellium you have given a lot. it's funny, when i read first read the topic, i just knew it was going to be about libra. IP: Logged |
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posted December 03, 2013 11:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by xcessdenied: Air signs do tend to do that. I even have seen fire/air dominated aquarians do the same, and they also tend to make themselves focus of the entire thing which can become a drag after a while. Even my libra dominated boss cannot stop discussing any topic, for hours!!!! But air dominated people are likely going to bounce back and forth in my opinion ... it is just a lot of 'mental' energy vs 'emotional'. Add a dose of uranus to personal planets and it adds to erratic energies. Plus most of the house placements are in outgoing houses. You might also note that they are the same way with anyone they meet, it isn't exclusive to you?Plus your stellium of Cancer in house of Aquarius will make you a lot more 'emotionally attached to humanity' vs one person? Finally, are you sure they have a libra stellium in 11th?
I agree. My libra and Aquarius friends do this. They can both go on for hours ughhh and Aquarians barely let anyone talk. And this is coming from a Gemini lol!!!
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 04, 2013 12:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by mercuryflow: i've actually encountered 3 libras who 'cling'….badly. i've had other threads about this subject on other sites, and it seems that there is definitely a strain of libra that cling and seem to demand and drain energy from others. i think in their quest for balance, if they have any self=absorption, they will take ''too much'' from others to balance themselves…without realizing the off-balance they are actually creating. having said that, we are each responsible for our own balance, and if you allow someone to cling and therefor drain you, you need to find the appropriate boundaries to draw. it can be challenging as libras can be charming and you won't even realize it's happening until you start resenting it. i imagine with your cancer stellium you have given a lot. it's funny, when i read first read the topic, i just knew it was going to be about libra.
Those are Libras that have some kind of unfulfilled need or insecurity that should be addressed. The ideal Libra does not cling in desperation or fear, but prefers companionship and doing things with others. It's typical for Libra to want one other person to help them out in life but it's definitely teamwork. This is normal behavior to be expected from Libras.
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2745 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 04, 2013 12:33 AM
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mercuryflow Knowflake Posts: 177 From: ElvenForest Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 04, 2013 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [QUOTE] Those are Libras that have some kind of unfulfilled need or insecurity that should be addressed. The ideal Libra does not cling in desperation or fear, but prefers companionship and doing things with others. It's typical for Libra to want one other person to help them out in life but it's definitely teamwork. This is normal behavior to be expected from Libras.
totally agree…that's what i meant by a 'certain strain' and that seeking of balance in an unhealthy way. i definitely know a lot of independent libras that don't do this. and also, if you are the person the libra has 'chosen to help them out' unless you are in total agreement, it can come off as clingy, some people don'y like to partner up so much. IP: Logged |
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posted December 04, 2013 12:44 AM
I've had relationships with two Libra (suns) and know a few others. One Libra we just were kinda boyfriend/girlfriend. She showed signs of being clingly. The other Libra I lived with. She wasn't clingy at all from day one to the end. She never became clingy, jealous, insecure... nothing. Another Libra I know is also not clingy in any way that I can tell. But she's kind of promiscuous. My sister's husband is a Libra and as far as I know I've never heard a word even hinting at it. He certainly doesn't come across that way and they've been married since '95. I'm sure there's more I could probably think of but all-in-all from my personal experiences it's possible but not likely. IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 04, 2013 02:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Can we not do a Sun sign lump, please? All Librans are NOT this way - at all. If you must be Sun-oriented, Geminians. Oh, God, they can chatter. But so can ANY sign. Look at Mercury's positioning. And I second 'Libra energy does not cling'. It doesn't. Quite a few schizoids I know with Libra strong.
When did i say i was talking about sun signs? I was talking about Libra as a sign. Mercury Libra. 3th house Libra. Need I say more? IP: Logged |
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posted December 04, 2013 02:49 AM
Have you checked the synastry? Maybe he's not like that with everyone.IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1360 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted December 04, 2013 05:42 AM
I'm Libra and definitely not clingy! Detached, i'd said, when it comes in expressing my feelings. But yes, i love to talk and i could most possibly sit for hours and talk, if i'd like the person and the topic. I just love to socialize. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3516 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 04, 2013 09:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Have you checked the synastry? Maybe he's not like that with everyone.
Well, all those Libra planets are square my 5 Cancer Planets in the 11th. His Aqua planets probably don't mesh with my Cap Moon either...or the pronounced Virgo in me...I am very mutable and I like freedom and he lives and dies with his self considered "partner". He clings and is needy by CONSTANTLY and all day long send txts and long emails by wanting to know every step I take and express his poetic feelings about how HIS life is incomplete without his hands touching me or how he wants to hold me or how he will "save me" from all the bad life has to offer or.....or......or.....and how bad life mistreated him in the past and....and....all. day. long. ad. nauseum. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7504 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 04, 2013 04:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: Well, all those Libra planets are square my 5 Cancer Planets in the 11th. His Aqua planets probably don't mesh with my Cap Moon either...or the pronounced Virgo in me...I am very mutable and I like freedom and he lives and dies with his self considered "partner".He clings and is needy by CONSTANTLY and all day long send txts and long emails by wanting to know every step I take and express his poetic feelings about how HIS life is incomplete without his hands touching me or how he wants to hold me or how he will "save me" from all the bad life has to offer or.....or......or.....and how bad life mistreated him in the past and....and....all. day. long. ad. nauseum.
I'm Libra and I couldn't stand that. And I knew a guy who leaned very strongly in that direction and when he made romantic overtures toward me (while I was comforting him about losing his wife) I made it clear we were just friends...on top of that he was just drawn to women who needed saving, he had to be Prince Charming who broke the spell, but once he saved her then he lost interest in her (and/or she lost interest in him), another reason to not involve myself (especially as I wasn't "broken" and didn't appreciate the implication that I was). He's a Cancer. Glad to say he's married again and so far it seems like the healthiest relationship he's ever been in (and his wife likes me a lot, too) so I'm really hoping this if finally the right marriage. I'd never be romantically involved with him but I do care about him a lot. It's just I don't want a suffocating shadow or (even worse) to be someone's princess that the knight in shining armor has to keep in a tower safe from the world, I'm too independent for that (which my 5H Sag emphasizes and I expect my Scorpio energy despises the notion of losing my autonomy like that along with my Cappie Lilith always wondering when I'll need to be protected from my protector, which would be hard to do if he has all the power by taking care of everything). IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 04, 2013 04:53 PM
Sounds like my Cancer Ex who cheated and screwed me over. After I cut him off, he kept popping up (6-8 months later) and calling so I eventually gave in and answered the calls. Then I would hang up.Then he would send 6-8 emotional emails in a row (within a half an hour time frame) full of flowery bs lol. This guy sounds more watery than airy. Are you sure he doesn't have plutonian or cancerian energy??
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3516 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 04, 2013 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: Sounds like my Cancer Ex who cheated and screwed me over. After I cut him off, he kept popping up (6-8 months later) and calling so I eventually gave in and answered the calls. Then I would hang up.Then he would send 6-8 emotional emails in a row (within a half an hour time frame) full of flowery bs lol. This guy sounds more watery than airy. Are you sure he doesn't have plutonian or cancerian energy??
He has a Peregrine progressed Scorpio Moon in 3H and a Cancer Mars Dwad. That's about it in terms of water lol It might just be that my Uranian and Mercurial tendencies offset his Libra balancing and it makes him clingy and insecure. In his defense though I probably have issues far worse than he anticipated..or I know I do.
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