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aquaman88
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posted December 05, 2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaman88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Do you believe, say, someone with 29 degrees Moon in Scorpio would exhibit traits of Moon sign Sagittarius? Or is it one or the other? Also, do cusps only affect Sun signs?


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2. Some might say that the earth has gone through such major changes in the past hundred or so years because we’re on the cusp between the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius. However, these same people don’t always subscribe to the theory that cusps exist between people’s signs.

What’s that about?

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posted December 05, 2013 05:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dont know. My moon is in Taurus 29 degrees. So the next sign would be Gemini.

I am a Gemini sun, gemini mercury so not too sure.


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Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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posted December 05, 2013 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has moon 29 degrees libra, I can't detect MiS at all.
My mom actually has moon scorpio, they are two different emotional wavelengths.

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2013 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 29 cancer (sun) and I do relate somewhat to Leo. I don't think I have the ego that's associated with it but I do alternate btn being shy and being the centre of attn. I have Leo elsewhere in my chart so maybe its coming through there. (leo in venus,mars and saturn)

From my understanding, I think the astrologer who this site is based off of didn't believe in cusps.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cusps do not exist.
They are only thought to exist because people didn't know their correct birth time.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2013 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
0 degrees are actually the most intense point of sign.
since it shares the same decan and duad of that sign.

I have 0 degrees cap NN and I pretty much relate to every capricorn trait.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cusps don't exist? Ha I don't know if that makes sense to me at this stage.

Houses are far more sensitive and your Moon could feel unlike a sign because the house it's in is changing it's mode, it's elemental flavour, etc.

If a Moon in Scorp is in the 9th House, it could give a Sag feel. If that Moon rules the 9th House, it could have a Sag feel. If that Moon is receiving an aspect from Jupiter or your 9th House ruler, it could give a Sag feel.

Houses trump Signs, while Signs are still important.

Aspects round everything off, they give the little details that inflict differing energies into normally Scorpio or normally Leonine or normally Capricorn like planets.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
0 degrees are actually the most intense point of sign.
since it shares the same decan and duad of that sign.

I have 0 degrees cap NN and I pretty much relate to every capricorn trait.


Yeah, I would agree with that.
0 - 1.5 degrees because it's still the first duad of the first decan.

But the last degree being the most intense doesn't seem to make sense.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello aquaman88! Welcome to LL

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posted December 05, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MsPrism:
Cusps don't exist? Ha I don't know if that makes sense to me at this stage.

Houses are far more sensitive and your Moon could feel unlike a sign because the house it's in is changing it's mode, it's elemental flavour, etc.

If a Moon in Scorp is in the 9th House, it could give a Sag feel. If that Moon rules the 9th House, it could have a Sag feel. If that Moon is receiving an aspect from Jupiter or your 9th House ruler, it could give a Sag feel.

Houses trump Signs, while Signs are still important.

Aspects round everything off, they give the little details that inflict differing energies into normally Scorpio or normally Leonine or normally Capricorn like planets.


I'm talking about planets in sign cusps, not house cusps.
And I wouldn't say houses trump signs.
They are equal.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, that's not how I feel. Note, I wish I had Sag Moon traits, I don't like Scorpio Moon. Hopefully, some astrologers with more experience will clear the air.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
well, that's not how I feel. Note, I wish I had Sag Moon traits, I don't like Scorpio Moon. Hopefully, some astrologers with more experience will clear the air.

You must be receiving another influence in your chart which is giving you the Scorpio influence.

Or check Topocentric.
Maybe it changes.

Go to Astro.com and check the box that says "Topocentric"

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posted December 05, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
You must be receiving another influence in your chart which is giving you the Scorpio influence.

Or check Topocentric.
Maybe it changes.

Go to Astro.com and check the box that says "Topocentric"


OMG M. Intellect, even though, I'm Mercurial as well, it's too much to read for my Mercury in 1st House

I don't know where I get Scorpio Moon traits from? I don't have anything in Scorpio or in 8th house. Pluto is not that active in my Natal either. It's just sextile Sun, semi-sex Moon, square Mars and trine NN, plus generational stuff.

When you read Scorpio Moon description, it's me. I don't like it and I don't want it. I wish I was Sag to 100%, but I'm not

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posted December 05, 2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
OMG M. Intellect, even though, I'm Mercurial as well, it's too much to read for my Mercury in 1st House

I don't know where I get Scorpio Moon traits from? I don't have anything in Scorpio or in 8th house. Pluto is not that active in my Natal either. It's just sextile Sun, semi-sex Moon, square Mars and trine NN, plus generational stuff.

When you read Scorpio Moon description, it's me. I don't like it and I don't want it. I wish I was Sag to 100%, but I'm not


Did you check Topocentric?
Did you mean it's so much to read as in Astro.com?
And what is your 8th House and where's the ruler at?

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posted December 05, 2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2013 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
I looked at it, and I came across a very large article. My eyes went all over the place, and I decided to read it tomorrow. Thank you so much , though. I've never heard of Topocentric

My 8th House is Pisces, and it's trine Sun, Venus/Asc and sextile Pluto.


No problem.

There's probably something else which is giving you the Scorpio influence.
What's your IC?

If you like, maybe I can look at your chart and see if I see anything in personal readings

I'm no professional of course and might miss things that I didn't know about, but I'm sure someone more experienced with charts can find something if I don't.

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posted December 05, 2013 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2013 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Oww my IC is Scorpio hmm

ok, I'd love for you to have a look. I'll post it in PR, iuf that's ok. Thank you so much! x


No problem.
I'll see you there

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posted December 05, 2013 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha i knew it. Theres always someone who says cusps dont exist. Shut up already. I know my birth time and my sun is on the gemini/cancer cusp. If cusps bother u so much then stay out of the topic. Sheesh.


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Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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posted December 05, 2013 11:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyways heres a great article on cusps:


http://www.astrology.com/were-your-born-cusp/2-d-d-288194

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posted December 06, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha i knew it. Theres always someone who says cusps dont exist. Shut up already. I know my birth time and my sun is on the gemini/cancer cusp. If cusps bother u so much then stay out of the topic. Sheesh.


The thread's asking which do I think is right.
It didn't say for Ex. "Gemini/Cancer Cusp" title, in which case I wouldn't have said anything.

So no need to be rude, you're still the Cusp of Magic

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posted December 06, 2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beloved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've currently been having an experience with a fellow whose Sun is in 3 degrees of Leo. Curiously enough, he also has a Leo Ascendant. His moon is in Gemini. Funny thing is that I've known him over the course of the last year and a half or so and I could rarely ever see any Leo qualities in him and I've spent a LOT of time talking to him and playing with him (we are both gamers and that's how we met.)

The last 2 months +, he confessed to me that he was interested in me and basically we started to spend a lot more time together than we ever had before. The closer I got, the more the Leo sun and ascendant just didn't seem to make sense to me. Eventually I thought about his shyness, his hesitance to talk until he really felt comfortable with me, the tenderness of his voice in certain conversations, the feeling of general nervousness and insecurity that I picked up below the surface and now (since the last week) the complete silence on his part because I misspoke and either made him angry or hurt him. Yes, I do see a hell of a lot more of the sign of Cancer in this man than Leo.

So I do tend to think cusps exist even if you know their exact birth time (which he did.) He is definitely showing a lot more Cancerian traits in my opinion than Leonine ones although I occasionally see a bit of arrogance, etc. in his comments that make me think Leo man. lol

Beloved

P.S. I've gotten rather close to him and now I feel quite lost since he stopped talking. I'm not the type to chase a guy and I know he's naturally reticent it seems to come after me from my experiences but I'm hoping he cares about me enough to want to talk it over and straighten it out.

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ASC in Capricorn
Moon in Taurus
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posted December 21, 2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaman88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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