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hannaramaa
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posted December 11, 2013 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not pushing or anything. No, I'm giving lots and lots of space and letting it be on their terms. But I wish I knew if I was doing the right thing by doing that or not.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be helpful. Don't point out their weaknesses, they already know! Reassure them to relax and not put all the responsibility on themselves. They'll open up gradually when thy know you are genuinely caring

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posted December 11, 2013 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honesty
Integrity
Loyalty
Maturity

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posted December 11, 2013 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I mean to say after you've already upset them. A lot.

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posted December 11, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethbabe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm...one of my best friends has moon in cappy and we have had our fair share of arguments or just plainly silent treatment. I think the best way to regain their trust or friendship is by giving them space for now so they can cool down then slowly reemerging out and showing the above characteristics as kerosene suggested.

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posted December 11, 2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bethbabe:
hmm...one of my best friends has moon in cappy and we have had our fair share of arguments or just plainly silent treatment. I think the best way to regain their trust or friendship is by giving them space for now so they can cool down then slowly reemerging out and showing the above characteristics as kerosene suggested.

Aha! The silent treatment… boy have we had that. Who broke it first? Do they like to be the ones or would they prefer the other party do it? I know Cappies are scared of rejection but they're also a cardinal sign compared to my fixed Taurus moon. So as a fixed moon I will wait 'til I'm about to burst before making any sort of move like that. If they DON'T come to you and you go to them does that mean you're not important to them?

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posted December 11, 2013 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Don't point out their weaknesses, they already know!

The first thing I was going to say was.. Don't criticise - because they already criticise themselves a *lot*.

Hannah - What did you do to upset them? Is this your Scorpio friend? Or is it a guy?

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posted December 11, 2013 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not my Scorpio friend but she can be included too. Maybe we'll get to her after this first explanation.

It's a guy friend.

Odette, do you still have my email per chance?

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posted December 11, 2013 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't use my old email anymore. I don't think I'll remember the password to it lol That was such a Pisces Merc thing to say!
Can you give me your email?

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posted December 11, 2013 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a cap moon and practice silent treatment a lot. even when i am 100% in the wrong i appreciate when the other person breaks it first because sometimes i feel too vulnerable doing it. if they don't break it i will move on, so if you don't do it you might potentially lose them. we don't actually like space because it makes us feel unloved and vulnerable; as an earth sign we like to be together. also, if you've upset me, a way back into my good graces would be via my venus sign - give me something that would make me happy/feel loved. so maybe get them back via their venus.

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posted December 11, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am simple. Either I like you or I don't. If latter, there is NOTHING in this world you can do to change that. If I do like you I will not have many walls up period.

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posted December 11, 2013 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy remembers things but not necessarily begrudgingly. They are concerned about not making the same mistake, not so much about revenge.

I am not sure your friend's other placements. If there are not a lot of fixed energies, your friend will forgive you. Caps just want reliable people who stay by their sides, so do whatever you can to show that.

Cap moons tend to eventually forgive.

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posted December 11, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His other placements are Sag Sun and Venus, and Mercury in Scorpio, Mars in Scorpio.

I don't know… the situation has been deteriorating and while we both recognize that in our own way, it seems we're dealing with it differently. For instance I wouldn't mind working on it through communication (though I'm not the best at getting him to open up… not that I try hard, 'cause come on! Two fixed sign placements and I'm already on thin ice with him.) but he would rather avoid and back away. I'm not sure if that's signs or just a typical male response.

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posted December 11, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when i go cold, the temperature drops waaaay below zero.
those who can successfully warm me back up to them, generally do it with humor.

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posted December 11, 2013 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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when i go cold, the temperature drops waaaay below zero.
those who can successfully warm me back up to them, generally do it with humor.

I'm too embarrassed and insecure to try… he doesn't overtly make me feel that way, it's just how i react to him specifically i guess.

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posted December 11, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm too embarrassed and insecure to try… he doesn't overtly make me feel that way, it's just how i react to him specifically i guess.

yea, and it wouldn't work if i could sense you were 'trying'…

i don't know enough about your situation to give you advice on what to do, but i do agree that cap moons forgive. it just might be time and space that is needed.

goodluck.

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posted December 11, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm too embarrassed and insecure to try… he doesn't overtly make me feel that way, it's just how i react to him specifically i guess.

I think you either should give him time or approach it in a level headed, straightforward, respectful way. Just go up to him and discuss the problem right away, state that you want to *respect him and his experiences, value him as a friend and believe that there's misunderstanding between you two and that figuring things out will allow you to be a better friend and not causing the same problems in the future.

I have many Cappy placements and strong Saturn. I'm bubbly with people I love but when I hate it when someone try to gain me again with some stupid joke. It might be my fixed qualities as well. But if you are not gonna address the problem, it's not going away.

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posted December 11, 2013 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
did u make him mad?
capricorn moon/scorpio mars can be hard to read. it's like treading on thin ice and down there it's all hot lava.

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posted December 11, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I made him mad so much as frustrated him and hurt his feelings. I assume it's worse to hurt a Cap's feelings than it is to anger them?

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posted December 11, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I was too intense. Oh well, am who I am.

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posted February 13, 2014 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww, Hanna, don't give up on us haha. Not all Cap Moons can't handle intensity, it depends on their whole chart.

I know this is a little late but just reading through some old threads.

Anyway, as a Cap Moon myself: apologize. Acknowledge what you've said or done wrong and especially be genuine. Be honest and express that you want to make up and try again. ITA about not criticising. They know. Oh boy they do. And if they open up, especially about their feelings, take them seriously and treat them with care.

Then again, I have Moon conj. Neptune on my IC, so the sensitivity to my feelings is really, really important to me. Pretty much the deciding factor in if I want to restore the relationship with someone - in how they handled me at their worst, when I opened up good. No avoiding, pretending nothing happened, laughing it off (really?!) or suggesting I should just get over it. That pushes me back even more into my shell and makes me want to go back to stuffing them down.

You're an Aries, I'm sure you can do it, win some over with your honesty!

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posted February 13, 2014 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Cap Moon ex is nothing like how you guys described.Except for the silent treatment.So it's definitely other placements.
He does like his space when we get into an argument.By space I'm not talking about a few days or a week.It's more like 2 weeks to a month.It's frustrating.We took turns initiating conversation.It also never went further than text,emailing for 2 years.He knew I was emotionally attached,so he used that to keep me there.He is insecure.The fact that I was pretty much infatuated with him fed his ego.
Maybe it's different when they love someone.But that was my experience with a Cap Moon.

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posted February 13, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I don't talk to the Cap moons I knew anymore because I got fed up with their selfishness. I know what being guarded is like - I'm guarded. I'm selfish. BUT… I can tell when someone is trying and I meet them halfway. I don't feel Caps do that once you hurt them, and they have their reasons…it just comes down to agreeing to disagree. Especially because they had Moon / Pluto on top of it. OY!

Now I'm dating a mega-Cap. He does all the right things, has manners, is kind, reassuring…but I don't feel emotionally close (he has a Sag moon. I have a Taurus one.). So maybe I'll make a thread about that and see what people say lol.

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posted February 13, 2014 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I think I was too intense. Oh well, am who I am.

Sun square moon can be really difficult in synastry. It's hard for the sun when they are just being themselves, and it somehow hurts the moon. I'm a Cap sun, square my husband's Libra moon...so I know how this feels.

At least you're not alone, happens to everyone.

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