posted December 11, 2013 08:17 PM            

At work this guy was talking to me about the difference in his choice in pens, and it dawned on me how that relates to my Gemini ASC. Not the fact we were talking about pens, but how people often talk to me about little, obscure things. And it has to do with people communicating or traveling because Mercury rules Gemini.

So what I'm thinking is this relates to people who have Cancer ASC (for example.) Cancer ASC may marry early on, or maybe women (having to do with the Moon) tell them they're understanding more often than they would an Aries ASC or Aquarius one.

posted December 11, 2013 08:38 PM            

Like how a business dresses the windows of their store, we grab a handful of items we feel will best attract the kind of people we want to invest in us. Then we display those items to random passers by. Those in the market for being emotionally understood shop at Cancers-R-Us and those looking for intellectual stimulation shop at GeminiMart! After we attract our target demographic, then we can open our doors and show them the full inventory of what we have to offer.

The sign, ruler, and aspects play a big role in how we present ourselves to others. Interestingly enough, how we present ourselves to others is based on our generalized concept of how others function(DSC).

posted December 11, 2013 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I know you know you're a great writer but it seriously speaks to my Geminian ASC soul!

And yes, good point. I forget we don't need to be in definite relationships or have them with every single person for the DSC to be activated or used!

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posted December 11, 2013 09:00 PM            

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At work this guy was talking to me about the difference in his choice in pens, and it dawned on me how that relates to my Gemini ASC. Not the fact we were talking about pens, but how people often talk to me about little, obscure things. And it has to do with people communicating or traveling because Mercury rules Gemini.

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Do you think the MC plays a role as well??

posted December 11, 2013 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Do you think the MC plays a role as well??

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I know you didn't direct your question to me, but I do think that. ASC, DSC, MC, and IC establish our capacity (and style) for identifying with Self (object), Other (subject), Public (dynamic subject), and Personal (dynamic object).

posted December 11, 2013 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I know you didn't direct your question to me, but I do think that. ASC, DSC, MC, and IC establish our capacity (and style) for identifying with Self (object), Other (subject), Public (dynamic subject), and Personal (dynamic object).

All four of those identities are apparent in our ASC, because they are usually squaring and opposing. I have often wondered why astrologers tend to single out the ASC sign, instead of looking at all four as a set.

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posted December 11, 2013 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

I guess what I'm saying is I think the ASC is how others relate to you and the DSC is how you relate to others. I don't know how this seems different to any other definition, but it does. Just gimme your thoughts!

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That's what I kept saying!

Because I have a Leo Ascendant and I relate to my Descendant; Aquarius, way more than Leo.
I'm very different and naturally eccentric.

posted December 11, 2013 11:45 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

So people would see me as a strange mixture of Aquarius, gemini, Leo,and sagitarius? That's pretty cool

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That's a cool mixture

That's kinda how it should be, technically.
Using all four of those to define the self projection.
Mine are Leo, Aquarius, Taurus and Scorpio.

posted December 11, 2013 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Okay, this is hard to explain because it seems different than simply understanding what the ASC does.

At work this guy was talking to me about the difference in his choice in pens, and it dawned on me how that relates to my Gemini ASC. Not the fact we were talking about pens, but how people often talk to me about little, obscure things. And it has to do with people communicating or traveling because Mercury rules Gemini.

So what I'm thinking is this relates to people who have Cancer ASC (for example.) Cancer ASC may marry early on, or maybe women (having to do with the Moon) tell them they're understanding more often than they would an Aries ASC or Aquarius one.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the ASC is how others relate to you and the DSC is how you relate to others. I don't know how this seems different to any other definition, but it does. Just gimme your thoughts!

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Like, with me, I have Aries over there and I can pushy and impatient but it's the last thing I like admitting about myself. I like to think of myself as patient and considerate (Libra) while others might have a different opinion because of my descendant. I can experience them this way too, their impatience and hot headedness. They can inspire me with originality, quick thinking and genius as well, all associated with Aries.

With Sagittarius, you have mentioned before, you notice when others are blunt and you are blunt at times, too. This could cause you concern, when you are this way, so you second guess it, "Oh no, was I too blunt? Did somebody take it the wrong way?"

Also, you might prefer upbeat, cheerful, optimistic types who are philosophical or spiritual, who can give you a pep talk when you need one.

posted December 11, 2013 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Do you think the MC plays a role as well??

There's a Gemini Asc (allegedly) on the job, and I find him shifty/up to something. I don't trust him.

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I don't know. I think it plays a role internally, or at least for me. I see myself as very Piscean but honestly I don't have anyone who knows the signs well enough (and me) to tell me if I come off Piscean to them.

posted December 12, 2013 12:02 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Let's see, you have a Gemini ascendant and Sagittarius is on your descendant. I would think that, maybe, you look for Sagittarius characteristics in others and at the same time, others could see you this way. They perceive you like this but you might not really be this way. This is more like how you are that you do not wish to acknowledge.

Like, with me, I have Aries over there and I can pushy and impatient but it's the last thing I like admitting about myself. I like to think of myself as patient and considerate (Libra) while others might have a different opinion because of my descendant. I can experience them this way too, their impatience and hot headedness. They can inspire me with originality, quick thinking and genius as well, all associated with Aries.

With Sagittarius, you have mentioned before, you notice when others are blunt and you are blunt at times, too. This could cause you concern, when you are this way, so you second guess it, "Oh no, was I too blunt? Did somebody take it the wrong way?"

Also, you might prefer upbeat, cheerful, optimistic types who are philosophical or spiritual, who can give you a pep talk when you need one.

Sometimes, they might expect the same from you and it might be awkward. I find the descendant qualities are about second guessing yourself. For instance, some optimism is needed but you don't feel like being that way, or consider it unrealistic. Gemini likes logic, so if it seem illogical to be optimistic, you might question this quality in yourself.

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posted December 12, 2013 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Nicely explained, Starlight

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posted December 12, 2013 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thanks, Mecurian. I just realized I have been typing Mercurial instead of Mercurian, heh.

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Yeah, I have always noticed you (and many others, actually) did that, but I didn't want to correct you and make you feel bad. (not that you would feel bad, but just in case you would, I didn't want to risk it)

posted December 12, 2013 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I have always noticed you (and many others, actually) did that, but I didn't want to correct you and make you feel bad. (not that you would feel bad, but just in case you would, I didn't want to risk it)

I don't know, I'm weird like that, I know, lol.

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posted December 12, 2013 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

You're so sweet and considerate! I wouldn't have taken it personally if you corrected me. I just would have gone, "oh, that's right!" It's nice of you to be considerate of others.

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posted December 12, 2013 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Let's see, you have a Gemini ascendant and Sagittarius is on your descendant. I would think that, maybe, you look for Sagittarius characteristics in others and at the same time, others could see you this way. They perceive you like this but you might not really be this way. This is more like how you are that you do not wish to acknowledge.

Like, with me, I have Aries over there and I can pushy and impatient but it's the last thing I like admitting about myself. I like to think of myself as patient and considerate (Libra) while others might have a different opinion because of my descendant. I can experience them this way too, their impatience and hot headedness. They can inspire me with originality, quick thinking and genius as well, all associated with Aries.

With Sagittarius, you have mentioned before, you notice when others are blunt and you are blunt at times, too. This could cause you concern, when you are this way, so you second guess it, "Oh no, was I too blunt? Did somebody take it the wrong way?"

Also, you might prefer upbeat, cheerful, optimistic types who are philosophical or spiritual, who can give you a pep talk when you need one.

Sometimes, they might expect the same from you and it might be awkward. I find the descendant qualities are about second guessing yourself. For instance, some optimism is needed but you don't feel like being that way, or consider it unrealistic. Gemini likes logic, so if it seem illogical to be optimistic, you might question this quality in yourself.

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Oh, I can definitely give examples of people who remind me of Sagittarians (textbook definitions, not necessarily other ones I've met)! All of my friends are pretty intuitive and luck plays a large role in their life. I have one friend who's a lawyer and has always been VERY academic and popular. Another who is very intuitive and good with directions, generous.

What I meant though was our ASC determines the topics in which people discuss with us first, or in passing. When I originally posted the description escaped me, but this is what I really meant.

posted December 12, 2013 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

I guess what I'm saying is I think the ASC is how others relate to you and the DSC is how you relate to others. I don't know how this seems different to any other definition, but it does. Just gimme your thoughts!

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I don't really agree. ASC is how you are to others (you just met) , DSC is how you are in 1-to-1 relationship.

posted December 12, 2013 01:19 PM            

I never said you are chatty. I said you come across as chatty. I don't think people are fully aware of what their ASC can be like..

posted December 12, 2013 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
When online, you would be using your MC.

I never said you are chatty. I said you come across as chatty. I don't think people are fully aware of what their ASC can be like..

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Oh.. I guess I don't understand how you can come across chatty if you're reserved is all. *Shrug.*