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Topic: Weak people
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m.blade
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: idek
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted December 12, 2013 11:44 AM
  
Like physically weak. People who can't stand up for themselves and people who lose in physical and verbal fights; what placements point to this?IP: Logged |
Sven555
Knowflake Posts: 586
From: UK
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted December 12, 2013 12:58 PM
I've noticed alot of Capricorn influenced people are rather Physically weak. They are always very skinny.It could be Neptune hard aspects to Sun, Mars etc. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 12, 2013 03:35 PM
^^^ You've ***got to be kididng***Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Michael Schumacher
AJ Foyt
Eli Manning
Lebron James
Dwyane Wade
Tiger Woods Which of the above Capricorn atheletes are/were weak or skinny? IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 895
From: Mercury
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 12, 2013 03:49 PM
I agree with the sun-nepune maybe… but not necessary physical weak, more like sensitive…
And maybe neptune-venus people in general. And moon. The moon is all emotional and could be seen as "weak", but it depends upon what is seen as weak. Someone sentimental and very sensitive can be seen as weak maybe, but showing emotions isn't a bad thing.
Maybe virgo-libra influence can make someone a bit "weak" too in the sense that they cannot take too much harshness or very blunt people. They seem like they are too good-mannered and "orderly" people to know how to handle such people. IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 12, 2013 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sven555:
I've noticed alot of Capricorn influenced people are rather Physically weak. They are always very skinny.It could be Neptune hard aspects to Sun, Mars etc.
Eh...Mars in Capricorn here. I am thin (and people often think they need to help me lift heavy items, hahahaha) but I am physically stronger than quite a few men I know. Believe it. And I don't mean just the weak, wimpy ones. I can lift, dig up boulders, move furniture, chop wood, and carry my toddler around for hours without blinking. <Ed>
Hahaha...sorry, my Leo AC just had to defend my awesome Cappy Mars. 
It's one of my favorite placements, after all. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3781
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 12, 2013 04:50 PM
That sounds like environment, not astrology (save maybe indirectly). What you're describing is someone bullied (that is so whipped due to size that they can't even speak up anymore when plenty of other people do just fine verbally but would quickly lose in a physical fight) and they nearly always come from homes where they're abused (though their astrological placements might make them different enough to be targeted and thus indirectly responsible). And size also has a lot to do with diet & activity in childhood regardless of placements which are typically more determined by parents & community than by the natal chart. IP: Logged |
23
Knowflake Posts: 573
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 12, 2013 06:07 PM
I would say an afflicted chart ruler or chart ruler in detriment and particularly fall or a planet in the first with affliction or poor dignity.Violets - Mars in Capricorn is exalted. In trad astrology, Mars in first is not the best position but Mars does at least operate very well in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
CatMote
Knowflake Posts: 618
From: Fighting Neptune for his trident
Registered: Apr 2013
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posted December 12, 2013 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
^^^ You've ***got to be kididng***Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Michael Schumacher
AJ Foyt
Eli Manning
Lebron James
Dwyane Wade
Tiger Woods Which of the above Capricorn atheletes are/were weak or skinny?
i dont think we can really count athletes.
and if we wanted to be ***** we could say eli manning :P haha ------------------
Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
Ascendant Libra IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 12, 2013 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by 23:
Violets - Mars in Capricorn is exalted.
Hence it is one of my favorite placements.  IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 5974
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 12, 2013 07:23 PM
My cappy sister is really strong, physically, and can be emotionally.I'm not physically strong, and emotionally, it depends on the situation. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 12, 2013 08:18 PM
Sometimes, it can be a matter of either luminary being afflicted by Neptune.IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 12, 2013 09:41 PM
I have basically everything mentioned here, from Cap placements to afflicted chart ruler, to hard aspects to both luminaries from Neptune. Not weak in any sense of the word. Sensitive, yes. Weak, no. Poorly placed Mars with afflictions, maybe? 
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hannaramaa
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 12, 2013 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I agree with the sun-nepune maybe… but not necessary physical weak, more like sensitive…
And maybe neptune-venus people in general. And moon. The moon is all emotional and could be seen as "weak", but it depends upon what is seen as weak. Someone sentimental and very sensitive can be seen as weak maybe, but showing emotions isn't a bad thing.
Maybe virgo-libra influence can make someone a bit "weak" too in the sense that they cannot take too much harshness or very blunt people. They seem like they are too good-mannered and "orderly" people to know how to handle such people.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 7455
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 12, 2013 10:37 PM
I have an afflicted Mars but it's not really poorly placed and the one aspect it makes with Pluto is supposed to indicate strength and drive but I feel weak in some ways with moon opposite Neptune. Maybe Venus square Saturn, too. I am not always week though. Sometimes I am really strong, but I do have moments of weakness. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 888
From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 12, 2013 10:37 PM
Nevermind
I decided that I don't care that much. Carry on. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 7455
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 12, 2013 10:42 PM
When I think of weakness, it's not always physical because I am very strong physically. With me it's more psychological. I misunderstood the question, I thought the OP meant weakness in general. I just saw the words weak people, lol. HOWEVER a lot of times I simply cannot stand up for myself and I think that's more psychological. That is a serious problem I have. Libra ascendant, too, with that Saturn square to the chart ruler combined with moon in strong opposition to Neptune, maybe, and moon ruling MC, too? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 12, 2013 10:59 PM
I don't think that I'm weak, either. I feel it at times, but I'm not.IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have an afflicted Mars but it's not really poorly placed and the one aspect it makes with Pluto is supposed to indicate strength and drive but I feel weak in some ways with moon opposite Neptune. Maybe Venus square Saturn, too. I am not always week though. Sometimes I am really strong, but I do have moments of weakness.
I don't think that one hard aspect from Pluto to a Sag Mars would indicate weakness at all. My brother in-law has Neptune opposite Moon, and...he's very sensitive, yes. He's also very strong physically. I think that his feelings are hurt more often than he acknowledges outright, although he does acknowledge it sometimes. Like me, I think that he would vastly prefer to not deal with aggressive people, but he will if necessary (we both have Cap Mars in 6th conjunct, and Leo ACs conjunct). We're both capable of being aggressive on occasion, but it's rare. So yeah, I don't think it's just a physical weakness or an emotional "weakness". It would have to be some sort of intricate combination of things, and I don't have a formula for that. @ teasel--
I don't think that you're weak at all. You're an Aries! You're just going through the stupid cardinal transits right now. It's enough to make anyone feel out of sorts. IP: Logged |
StrandedSaturn
Knowflake Posts: 42
From: Death Valley, CA
Registered: Dec 2013
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posted December 13, 2013 12:35 AM
I'm very weak psychically check out my chart http://www.astrotheme.com/chart/ZQxjBGR5BQxkAGV4ZQNjZQRjZQNkBGR2AmZ.png IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 7455
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I don't think that one hard aspect from Pluto to a Sag Mars would indicate weakness at all.My brother in-law has Neptune opposite Moon, and...he's very sensitive, yes. He's also very strong physically. I think that his feelings are hurt more often than he acknowledges outright, although he does acknowledge it sometimes. Like me, I think that he would vastly prefer to not deal with aggressive people, but he will if necessary (we both have Cap Mars in 6th conjunct, and Leo ACs conjunct). We're both capable of being aggressive on occasion, but it's rare. So yeah, I don't think it's just a physical weakness or an emotional "weakness". It would have to be some sort of intricate combination of things, and I don't have a formula for that. @ teasel--
I don't think that you're weak at all. You're an Aries! You're just going through the stupid cardinal transits right now. It's enough to make anyone feel out of sorts.
Thanks for the input, Violets. About your brother-in-law, would you say he acts like a Pisces moon? IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by StrandedSaturn:
I'm very weak psychically check out my chart
Thank you for sharing that with us. If it's a difficulty for you, I wish you the best.  IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thanks for the input, Violets. About your brother-in-law, would you say he acts like a Pisces moon?
You know what? Now that you mention it, he does just a bit. He is quite psychic as well, and has a really hard time filtering out negative...um..."energies" (or whatever one chooses to call such things).
Personally, we call them human spirits. But people tend to get really touchy about that topic, so I'll use the term "energies" instead. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 7455
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
You know what? Now that you mention it, he does just a bit. He is quite psychic as well, and has a really hard time filtering out negative...um..."energies" (or whatever one chooses to call such things).
Personally, we call them human spirits. But people tend to get really touchy about that topic, so I'll use the term "energies" instead.
Haha, that sounds so familiar. I have the same problem filtering.
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Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha, that sounds so familiar. I have the same problem filtering.
Oh, wow. If you have the same type of stuff going on that he does, I can only sympathize with you.
As a Pisces with the Neptune squares, I do sense them, I feel them, and I pick up on even residual energy in a place. But I'm not pestered very often. Only when I have to be around really negative people or places with...a history of some sort. I saged my home so many times after we bought it I couldn't begin to count. And the land around us as well. But anywho, I'm getting off topic. As usual. IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2303
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by StrandedSaturn:
I'm very weak psychically check out my chart
But back to the OP, perhaps it's a Jupiter/Saturn thing, combined with other hard aspects to Jupiter? Saturn restricting what should be expanding?
Add that to Neptune in hard aspect to Jupiter, and maybe it acts as a sort of draining of energy? <edit>
I read that as "physically", sorry. IP: Logged |
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