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Topic: Sun in the 12th house synastry with parent
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Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1292 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 12:48 AM
I found this: Your Sun in your partner's 12th House: This overlay can be a confusing one. There can be a general sense of mistrust that stems from misunderstanding. In some cases, you might be very fascinated with your partner, as if he or she marches to the beat of a different drummer. However, you may not "get" what he or she is all about, ultimately, and you should avoid finding irrational reasons to mistrust your partner as a result of this. Your actions will have a profound emotional impact on your partner, as you pull up many emotions in him or her. There may be a sense in your partner of having to give up something or to make sacrifices, as being together can bring up some level of pain or heartache, and possibly the need to be secret and private. The relationship can just as easily be very spiritually rewarding.
My daughters fathers sun in scorpio is in her 12th house. Anyone have this with a parent in synastry?
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 1423 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 17, 2013 02:00 AM
I do have this with my mom. It wasn't helpful while I was growing up.I also have it with my husband. We have an almost opposite dynamic from that of my mom and I.
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Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2579 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 17, 2013 06:30 AM
Synastry with parents or relative differs from synastry between lovers. The Sun in 12th house generates repulsion of father or autority and a tendency to rebel. Sun over 12th house is forcing the house person to take out the fear and fight against it (literally burning the darknes with light. As a child or teen the house person will fear the Sun person (usually the father) because the Sun will tend to push out the 12th house matters until those are revealed and confronted. Moon in 12th house gives problems with the mother. Here the mother is or overprotective and manipulative or submissive or helpless. Moon rules emotions and the night. Moon here has a even worse effect for 12th house because the Moon here is weak. Sun over 12th is weakened too but not so much as the Moon. Sun can still shine. Moon is practically frozen. 12th house is the third and final house of karma. Sun and Moon in 12th house synastry with family revealed old karma with family members that is greater than being in 8th or 4th house. In a past life, parents were EMOTIONALLY abusive, toxic, overprotective and created FEAR and trauma in the child's mind.(subconscious). The child with Sun or Moon in 12th house will automatically be born with this fear and manifest it in the current life because when we incarnate we do so with past life patterns that are hidden in our subconscious.(12th house). This fear is old karma that must be burn. In the current life, the native must burn it. Must go against his fears and solve the problems with his family he had in a past life. Unfortunately not many people succeed that. Some go fear their parents even late in life. The house person feels trapped, overwhelmed and killed by fear. The planet person senses this and takes advantage of it.IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1292 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 08:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
There may be a sense in your partner of having to give up something or to make sacrifices, as being together can bring up some level of pain or heartache, and possibly the need to be secret and private. The relationship can just as easily be very spiritually rewarding.
This makes alot of sense to me. U see, my daughter is his secret child. When i was 24. I had an affair with him for 6 years. He was 26 and married. I know bad but i learned and i will never hurt anyone again. He was a great father to her since she was born up into a year and a half ago he stopped. But now he is in her life again for good. She is 5 now. They were so happy to see eachother. He had been depressed for a while and so was I. I never kept him from her. I think he couldnt take it anymore. He couldnt be without her. He made a mistake.
I feel bad for having hurt his wife. And i apologized. She treats my daughter very well. They have 2 older sons. But his other family doesnt know. Only his mom but she lives in another country. So the sacrifices and secret make alot of sense to me. Next weekend she is sleeping over. Her moon is also in the 12th house and i can definitely be a bit over protective. With my thoughts. Not too extreme. I get anxious worrying about her future. Her first boyfriend, bullies, her walking to school by herself. I dont like strange men around her or even looking at her. I will always defend her. I dont want anyone to hurt her. I will kill them. If something bad ever happens to her, i will take my own life because i wouldnt be able to live without her. She is only 5 lol. Her first day of kindergarden we both cried. ------------------ Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp) Cancer asc 1st Taurus moon 11th Taurus venus 11th Libra mars 3rd Gemini mercury 11th
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 17, 2013 08:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: I also have it with my husband. We have an almost opposite dynamic from that of my mom and I.
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Synastry with parents or relative differs from synastry between lovers.
How do you think it plays between lovers? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3917 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 09:28 AM
My father's Sun is in my 12th. I'm not afraid of him and I don't think I ever was. We have a poor relationship though. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1292 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 10:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: My father's Sun is in my 12th. I'm not afraid of him and I don't think I ever was. We have a poor relationship though.
Can u list the synastry aspects between you and your father?
My daughters fathers sun conjuncts her moon in the 12th. I wonder if this makes it easier.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3917 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 10:37 AM
I don't have his TOB.Sun biquintile Sun my Sun opposite his Jupiter exact my Sun opposite his Uranus my Sun biquintile his Pluto exact my Sun conjunct his NN my Sun conjunct his Chiron my Sun square his Ceres my Moon sextile his Mars my Moon conjuct his Saturn my Moon sextile his Pluto my Moon square his Chiron my Mercury trine his Sun my Mercury conjunct his Mars my Mercury sextile his Neptune my Mercury trine his Pluto exact my Venus trine his Venus my Venus square his Saturn exact my Mars square his Sun my Mars sextile his Uranus my Mars biquintile his Neptune my Mars square his Pluto my Mars biquintile his Ceres exact my Jupiter conjunct his Mercury my Jupiter sextile his Venus my Jupiter quintile his Neptune exact my Saturn opposite his Uranus my Saturn square his Neptune my Saturn conjunct his Chiron my Uranus biqintule his Mercury exact my Uranus square his Venus my Uranus conjunct his NN my Neptune opposite his Jupiter my Neptune conjunct his NN exact my Pluto square his Sun my Pluto square his Mercury my Pluto trine his Jupiter my Pluto square his Pluto my Pluto sextile his Chiron my NN opposite his Uranus my NN square his Neptune my NN conjunct his Chiron my NN square his Ceres my Chiron quintile his Venus exact my Chiron conjunct his Jupiter my Chiron conjunct his Uranus exact my Chiron square his Neptune my Chiron opposite his Chiron exact my Vertex opposite his Sun my Vertex opposite his Mercury my Ceres sextile his Mars my Ceres square his Uranus exact my Ceres conjunct his Neptune my Ceres sextile his Pluto my AC trine his NN my MC trine his Venus ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 17, 2013 11:23 AM
quote: There may be a sense in your partner of having to give up something or to make sacrifices, as being together can bring up some level of pain or heartache, and possibly the need to be secret and private.
Trueeeee. She passed away 2 years ago but I loved her deeply, my mom. Her Sun in my 12th. It's as if we couldn't share our pain/hurt etc. with each other and the only explanation for it I can think of is that it would simply hurt too much. This was also a very noticable pattern throughout our lives. I was never the one who saw her bad moments/suffering.. but my sister(s) DID. Name it.. after surgery for ex. I Always seemed to come at the/her "right & bright & strong" moments... very verry striking! (Even with death in the eyes... same 'strong' story). We had the same Sun & Asc sign. We had an exact Merc/Merc conjunction. We had an exact Venus/Venus conjunction (at 29'** Cancer) IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1292 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 01:20 PM
My daughter and her father:Mars Conjunction Pluto Orb 1°01' Uranus Conjunction Moon Orb 1°15' MC Conjunction Moon Orb 2°25' Sun Conjunction Moon Orb 3°44' Sun Conjunction AS Orb 5°46' Node Conjunction Mars Orb 6°32' Uranus Conjunction AS Orb 8°15' Neptune Conjunction Pluto Orb 8°26' Mars Opposite Venus Orb 1°54' Neptune Opposite Sun Orb 3°39' Mars Opposite Sun Orb 3°45' Neptune Opposite Venus Orb 5°30'
Neptune Square MC Orb 0°41' Neptune Square Uranus Orb 1°05' MC Square Mars Orb 1°34' MC Square Neptune Orb 1°48' Uranus Square Neptune Orb 1°52' Pluto Square Jupiter Orb 2°48' Sun Square Neptune Orb 4°21' Jupiter Square Pluto Orb 4°27' Sun Square Saturn Orb 4°48' Uranus Square Mars Orb 5°15' Venus Square Jupiter Orb 5°32'
MC Trine Uranus Orb 0°16' Venus Trine Sun Orb 0°38' Neptune Trine Mars Orb 0°45' Pluto Trine Neptune Orb 1°03' Venus Trine Venus Orb 1°12' Venus Trine Neptune Orb 1°40' AS Trine Mercury Orb 1°59' Pluto Trine Sun Orb 2°05' Moon Trine Saturn Orb 2°27' Uranus Trine Uranus Orb 3°24' Pluto Trine Venus Orb 3°56' Mars Trine Saturn Orb 4°21' Moon Trine Pluto Orb 5°48' Sun Trine Uranus Orb 5°53'
Jupiter Sextile AS Orb 0°08' Node Sextile Mercury Orb 0°44' MC Sextile MC Orb 1°29' MC Sextile Jupiter Orb 2°02' Pluto Sextile Mars Orb 2°20' Saturn Sextile AS Orb 2°34' Neptune Sextile Neptune Orb 2°37' Venus Sextile Pluto Orb 4°08'
Pluto Inconjunction Uranus Orb 0°29' Uranus Inconjunction Sun Orb 0°50' Uranus Inconjunction Venus Orb 1°00' Lilith Inconjunction Mercury Orb 1°16' Sun Inconjunction Venus Orb 1°28' Moon Inconjunction AS Orb 1°29' MC Inconjunction Sun Orb 2°50' Sun Inconjunction Sun Orb 3°19'
Moon SemiSquare Uranus Orb 1°50' Moon SesquiQuadrate MC Orb 0°03' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Venus Orb 0°09' Chiron SesquiQuadrate Pluto Orb 0°24' AS SesquiQuadrate Venus Orb 0°33' Node SesquiQuadrate Pluto Orb 0°44' Mercury SesquiQuadrate Sun Orb 1°06' AS SesquiQuadrate Sun Orb 1°17' Mercury SesquiQuadrate Uranus Orb 1°27' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Sun Orb 2°00' Moon Quintile Neptune Orb 0°22' Mercury Quintile Jupiter Orb 0°46'
Venus SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°03' Sun SemiSextile Pluto Orb 1°27' Pluto SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°40'
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3460 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2013 02:33 PM
When you are looking for Karmic connections from the past you look to the water houses in a comparison chart.Family connections are frequently found in the 12th house ie Sun, Saturn, and South Node. Soul Mate connections are frequently found in the 8th house. The 4th house is equally important and you'll find bits and pieces here. Parents and/or siblings Moon, Ascendant Ruler, etc. can be found here. IP: Logged |