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theunknown
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posted December 17, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 17, 2013 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on the individual. Some can have a chart of squares and make it work for them and accomplish alot and be good people; some, the opposite. I don't really believe in sweeping statements like "All people with hard charts do great things and easy chart people are all axe murderers", because humanity isn't that simplistic. You can get both extremes with both chart types, and everything in between with both chart types.

How much a person makes of what they've got is up to them, what kind of person they turn into is up to them.

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posted December 18, 2013 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
I'm thinking about a family member who has mainly t-squares (4 of them) and 4 trine aspects. Do people with so many hard aspects (square/opp) ever overcome their challenges?
Ppl say T squares are drivers but I think if one has so few good aspects, the person will just play out all the problems and don't *often overcome them

Comming to think about it, it's more likely that people with a bunch of t-squares and bad aspect will overcome them, because if they don't from an early age they are totally lost anyways…they face so much struggle from the beginning that they learn more than others I think…My own natal chart is really bad, almost never seen anything like it, but it's just the aspect, it can be even worse if the house placements and many other factors are also really bad…
I think especially hard saturn and pluto aspect can be hard, cause it makes the person so absorbed with power struggles and bad self confidence… saturn does reward at some point, but pluto don't, it has to transform, and only few people does that…

But I have to say that "easy" looking charts with many trines and sextiles can be challenging enough. Again - if the house placements and all the details in the chart are focusing the energy in some "bad" way it has to be solved, but with many nice aspects the person is most likely to just go with the flow all their lives and never really get to realize what is their mission… a person with a challenging chart is often very conscious of themselves, and if there is a problem they are more likely to notice them… to solve it is maybe another problem but at least they try, where a totally "perfect" chart just makes the person really lazy cause they can get away with everything…hope this was useful

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posted December 18, 2013 01:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm actually drawn to people with chaotic charts.
Love t-squares.
They make for more interesting people.

Those with grand crosses.... WOW!!!!!!

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posted December 18, 2013 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
I'm thinking about a family member who has mainly t-squares (4 of them) and 4 trine aspects. Do people with so many hard aspects (square/opp) ever overcome their challenges?
Ppl say T squares are drivers but I think if one has so few good aspects, the person will just play out all the problems and don't *often overcome them


They make more of themselves and tend to have greater know-how. These aspects give them creativity,energy and drive. They make their own opportunities by understanding how the world works through meeting challenge after challenge head-on.

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posted December 18, 2013 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 18, 2013 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The oppositions over the ascendant are tough. Those tend to show up in people that are sorta unstable and have a lot of inconsistency in their lives. Their circumstances can often change and they do not react well.

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posted December 18, 2013 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 18, 2013 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The good thing is Jupiter is involved and that is one of the easier planets to deal with in a difficult configuration. Also what is positive about the t-square is that both Saturn (domicile) and Jupiter (exalted) are strong and operate well - that is, she does have resources and has some luck and is broad minded. Many would say that the conjunction between Neptune and Saturn is unfortunate but Saturn being domicile should be able to deal with Neptune well even though Neptune is an outer planet. The concerning point is the weak Sun and Mars - weak ego or self and indecisive drive and the oscillation she must feel between exuberance and lack of self-confidence/confusion. The issue is that she has to balance these polarities and that will somehow be channelled into her Sun/Mars.

Some help may be gained from the opposite point of Sun/Mars, that is like about 14-15 deg Aries to find some balance. Aries is ruled by Mars so somehow she has to use her Mars more effectively to overcome this t-square. Mars is also trine Moon and conjunct Sun. She must learn how to trust her instincts in decision making and make decisions without indecision - that is, act out the Libran bit by weighing up pros and cons and THEN deciding instead of oscillating. Maybe even spend not so much time in deciding things. Figure out what she wants to do, how to channel her drive.

Anyway, there is a lot of energy in that t-square like all t-squares.

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posted December 18, 2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a sun/saturn/pluto t square and I'm quite literally bipolar :/

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posted December 18, 2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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