posted December 19, 2013 10:30 AM            

That got me thinking that maybe the progressed composite shows how we can be misled into thinking a doomed relationship (sun-Saturn square in composite is pretty rough) is actually built for the long haul (sun-Saturn trine)?

And maybe it works the other way around, too, like the composite might indicate a workable, durable relationship, but the progressed composite is a mess, so the people just break up, not seeing the transience of the problems?

posted December 19, 2013 12:29 PM            

However its real strength lies in triggering certain aspects in the natal (or synastry or composite).

posted December 20, 2013 10:10 AM            

tight conjnctions of composite to natal are always very important; occasionally the progressed chart can even overshadow the natal, like it is somehow more intense, even though of course just for the time being.

It can really hurt if such a good progressions ceases to exist, and often something like this is in place with people who are so madly in love (strong progressions a the outset) and after a time they break up, and it is like they wake up from a dream and wondering what they ever saw in each other (after the passioante progression leaves).

If the natal is strong enough, the phase might lead into a deeper involvement, which might actually be love (as opposes to infatuation or being in love), if the natals are not strong enough though, the falling away of progressions can be xperienced as very disappointing.

big party is tomorrow. I should get cleaning up a little more I suppose.

posted December 20, 2013 10:31 AM            

Though there are some conjunctions to HIS chart (but that would rather explain HIS experience of the connection).

Well, after closer inspection there IS something in relation to my own natal, but it is only just coming up in the future (over a span of 1-2 years I suppose).

pr c MC conjunct my natal Mercury: 1°17
pr c MC conjunct my natal Sun: 2°11

This might become important for two reasons; first of all Mercury rules my 7th house and is the one HUGE relationship-bell in my chart.

Secondly the pr MC will make my natal Sun-MErcury-angular, anchoring it in the reality of manifestation

OH and thirdly, of course our composite Sun on 26 Sagittarius will be made angular, too. Not only that but this composite Sun is tied to his Sun-Moon-MC and Sun/Moon-mp and of course to my Sun-Mercury-conjunction and therefore will be triggering one of the dominant and most significant synastric connections.

So whenever that will be nearing exactness, something might happen that will be important.

But as I said this is all just future-music.

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° pr composite SN is as a matter of fact leaving the conjunction with my natal Chiron behind (0°56 separating).

I can`t help but feeling a litle relieved about it. lol

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for him however there are some natal points triggered. Interesting.

° pr composite Vertex conjunct his natal DESC (0°21 applying)
- this is a very "burning" building aspect for the time being

° pr composite Vertex conjunct his natal Saturn
(1°41 a)

I suppose this one will be acute around the time we have that MC-Sun alignment in composite

It is interesting as both of us have SAturn conjunct Vertex natally, so it is sort of part of the natal promise, but it seems to be him who is going toexperience it

° pr compoiste Mars opposite his natal Chiron (0°25 a).

interestingly for me it was Mars-ruled SN conjunct my natal Chiron.

It seems like both of us are, well, quite careful around each other because of a heightened vulnerability

° pr composite true Lilith conjunct his natal Uranus (12th house ruler) (0°13 s)

° pr composite Venus conjunct his natal SN (0°00!)

LOL

It is precise right now.

Thsi Venus is also conjunct his natal Priapus, all on 1 Pisces.

Interestingly when we initially met his progressed Venus was on 1 Pisces, too.

Of course it also means that for the last years our progressed composite Venus has been accompanied by Transiting Neptune, it is only now that we had the last "hit" and Neptune will finally be ready to move on from our pr Venus.

posted December 20, 2013 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
With composite Sun on your Venus - were you very much attracted, affectionate or in love?

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All of the above. He was my best friend for years, sometimes we were romantically involved and sometimes we weren't. We were involved when the pr comp sun was conjunct my Venus.

Big party is tomorrow? Oh I hope you have a good time!

As usual I am following your chart descriptions and enjoying how clearly you see the interpretations. Just a few comments:

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° pr composite SN is as a matter of fact leaving the conjunction with my natal Chiron behind (0°56 separating).

I can`t help but feeling a litle relieved about it. lol

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Yeah, seriously!

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It is interesting as both of us have SAturn conjunct Vertex natally, so it is sort of part of the natal promise, but it seems to be him who is going toexperience it

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No kidding? Both have Saturn-Vertex Wow

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pr composite Venus conjunct his natal SN (0°00!)

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Any way to see him...immediately?! =)

posted December 20, 2013 04:47 PM            

"We were involved when the pr comp sun was conjunct my Venus."
That makes sense. Your romantic side was being triggered by the relationship itself, at least for a time.

I actually have a colleague, and get the feelings he likes me a little more than he should or even want to.
It`s hard to explain, I am getting along quite well with most of my colleagues, including male ones. But this one, I donīt know, it just feels different. Maybe cause none of my other colleagues get that melancholic expression when they look at me, or just the way how he is so extra attentive towards me, when he really isn`t to others.
It`s not too strong, so probably it`s really nothing, but as I said, it just feels different to how other male colleagues related to me.

Well, this said colleague has his LUST and VALENTINE (and Pluto) conjunct my own Pluto and MC.

His AMOR trines my Sun by 2 minutes of orb.

my Sun and Mercury are conjunct his NN, but also opposite his Saturn on his SN, which is exactly conjunct my NESSUS.

His Nessus is not creating an havoc in my chart luckily, but his DEJANIRE is widely conjunct m Moon, but so is his Jupiter.

his Moon is possibly conjunctz his Chiron and both are then square my Saturn (and sextile my Moon - actually he almost shares a birthday with Christian Bale. lol).

There is also a funny thing with Venus in this synastry. My Venus is tightly squared by his Pluto. His Venus is tightly squared by my Uranus (I know these are generational, but since the orbs are so narrow, I find them relevant).

We also have Draconic Pluto conjunct each other`s natal Venus.
And Draconic Venus is opposing each other`s natal Uranus.

Why Iam even mentioning it, is the progressions.

his pr Venus is conjunct my pr Sun. It has been since we met, separated for a while (though never went out of orb) (due to retogradation) and now is again within half a degree of exactness and will stay that way for quite a while.

Maybe that is simply what I sense.

Though also, his pr Mars has JUST separated from an opposition to my natal Mars, and just begins his conjunction phase to my natal DESC.

Interestingly those aspects are interlinked.

His pr Venus is on 6 Aquarius, his pr Mars is on 6 Gemini.

my pr Sun is on 5 Aquarius, and my natal DESC on 7 Gemini. (my natal MC is on 5 Libra).

Actually it means that his pr Venus/Mars-mp is on 6 Aries, right on my natal IC (and opposing my natal MC and squaring my natal Venus exactly), with my pr Juno applying there as well.

These progressions are telling a story, but I am pretty sure, I donīt want to look into it too deeply. lol

It is just a weird "vibration" there, though.

"No kidding? Both have Saturn-Vertex Wow"
Yup. He wins this contest though, his is closer. lol

Actually we have a Saturn-Vertex-Juno link natally, with a synastric link to Valentine

his Saturn on 26 Virgo
his Vertex on 28 Virgo
his DESC on 25 Virgo

his Juno on 27 Cancer

my Valentine on 27 Scorpio

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my Saturn on 17 Cancer
my Vertex on 21 Cancer
my Juno on 17 Pisces

his Valentine on 19 Scorpio

I suppose we both take commitments, if there are any, pretty serious.

BTW tracing Saturn-Vertex-Juno-Valentine in composite

natal composite:

Saturn: 21 Leo
Vertex: 24 Leo

Valentine: 23 Scorpio (Lust is there too)
Juno: 22 Taurus

I find it interesting how our very soft aspects natally and synastrically get so much intensified throgh the interplay in the composite.

"Any way to see him...immediately?! =)"
LOL
Probably not.

My parents have given me a musical ticket as a gift though, for a "Sister Act" performance on 5th january, and curiously both of the actresses who played "Aida" opposite him, in one case very recently, are listed as the main performer there. How about paying them or their show a visit? And if so, why not on 5th january?
Just kidding of cours. That is about as unlikely as me seeing Jude Law on stage.
Oh wait, I actually do. AGAIN.

"I'll be emailing you soon but wanted to say that I LOVE that dress, it'd look so pretty on you!"
Which one? The flowery one?

It hasn`t arrived yet, so I do not know.

" Wish I had more of a figure for something like that but since nursing my babies I have like zero bust."
Well, luckily I still have some bust, more than enough actualy, though it is the first thing that got less and less with my weightloss. I seem to lose weight most quickly on my upper body, which - and that is good- means that my face, and my shoulders are of course narrower now, too.

posted December 20, 2013 07:07 PM            

So do you like your colleague? Or is his interest creepy...? More to say on the astrology in a little bit, just wanted to correct something real quick.

I checked again and me and Mr. Virgo had sun conjunct Venus in progressed composite basically the whole time we were together, and it was always close to my natal Venus. So I don't know what was causing the fluctuations in closeness. Honestly, me being a little bit crazy probably didn't help.

Last time I saw him was at a friend's wedding in 2002. We weren't on speaking terms (bad fallout) but he just stared me down, openly and like he didn't care what anyone thought. LOL At that time in progressed composite, Venus was exactly conjunct Neptune forming a fire grand trine with our pr composite moon and Saturn.

Really the progressed composites with that guy were always beautiful...but the actual composite sucked really bad.

posted December 21, 2013 05:56 PM            

"Yes, the flowery one! "
It arrived today. lol

"t occurred to me that it might be bad manners to mention email content here. "
No problem for me.

"So do you like your colleague? Or is his interest creepy...?!
No, I donīt like him that way. But the question is obsolete anyway, as he is married and has some children.
It isnīt really creepy either, though at some times a bit awkward, but it is not like he is actually trying to pursue me. AS I said he is married.
What I think it might be, is just that he might like me a little more than most of the other colleagues. Nothing more behind it.
But seriously he is giving me a ride every thursday, and when I had to stay in school longer some weeks ago, he looked almost disappointed.
It`s a little weird. I mean, he wouldnīt have to do it at all, and if anything, he is doing me a favour, not the other way round.
Another thing is that, I will often find him looking at me, even if I am far away at the other corner of the room.
And if I approach him cause I have to discuss somehing about our job with him, not only will he pretty much interrupt anything he is doing at the moment and directing hsi full attention on me immediately, but everytime I look at him or he looks at me, his eyes are lightening up.
Yes, maybe that is all coincidence and I am hearing grass grow, where there is no grass to begin with, but it just feels like he might like me a little.
Oh and another colleague once told me that this colleague had told him he had seen me while doing a tour with his bike (and we are not living in the same town), and I just found it weird, that he didn`t say `Hi`. It is been months ago, but I just found that quite unusual.

I do remember though, that even before meeting his wife, he asked me a few times if I might join him for lunch, but I had a lot of other things on my mind. Do you think he actually had been trying to get closer to me then?

I am not the best reading signals when it comes to my own person. Either I read too much into something or I donīt read it at all even if someone is waving a huge flag with flashing neon letters in front of me.

But as I said, I wouldn`t have been interested anyway.

"We weren't on speaking terms (bad fallout) but he just stared me down, openly and like he didn't care what anyone thought. LOL At that time in progressed composite, Venus was exactly conjunct Neptune forming a fire grand trine with our pr composite moon and Saturn."
Wow! Sounds intense. But with Neptune and Saturn there, I understand why it was a "mute" glance. They seem to do that somehow.

"Not that I'm living in the past or anything but it helps me learn astrology, using previous relationships as my laboratory. More later! =)"
I know what you mean. That is why I like looking at charts with crushes or celebrities evne, to understand how it all works.