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NeptunianSag
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posted December 19, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the conjunction i feel ugly, personality and appearance and i think others don't find me attractive, why do i have to live like this? Full of suffering , i must of been one hell of a vain person in my past life and now im paying the price.

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PixieJane
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posted December 19, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That feeling is rampant among women and not uncommon in men. So I don't think it's the conjunction (which I have and don't feel that) or karma for a past life. It's more on how many companies try to get you to feel that way so they can sell you their products which are supposed to cure you of feeling like that (if only for a little while). And if you're female then you'll be attacked over your looks a lot, too (especially if you show anything other than self-loathing) as people believe that's what you care about the most (and they're probably right, generally speaking) similar to how the manhood and/or penis size is often criticized in men.

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florence
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posted December 19, 2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have the square and feel that way. mostly though i experience it as any light-heartedness or pleasure seems to be punished. but when i am voluntarily self-disciplined pleasure comes my way and sometimes i'm not in the mode for that. this is the thing i don't know how to remedy. i suppose sometimes i feel more confident in my appearance following hard work, not sure tho.

ive thought i must have been really vain in a past life too but i guess its all just vanity. whether is liked or not

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Canadiangirl
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posted December 19, 2013 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptunianSag:
I have the conjunction i feel ugly, personality and appearance and i think others don't find me attractive, why do i have to live like this? Full of suffering , i must of been one hell of a vain person in my past life and now im paying the price.

--I know what you mean, I have this aspect too. This is couple with venus square uranus...someone shoot me ;P

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12muddy
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posted December 19, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That feeling is rampant among women and not uncommon in men. So I don't think it's the conjunction (which I have and don't feel that) or karma for a past life. It's more on how many companies try to get you to feel that way so they can sell you their products which are supposed to cure you of feeling like that (if only for a little while). And if you're female then you'll be attacked over your looks a lot, too (especially if you show anything other than self-loathing) as people believe that's what you care about the most (and they're probably right, generally speaking) similar to how the manhood and/or penis size is often criticized in men.

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12muddy
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posted December 19, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like pixiejane said, a fair number of people feel that way.

I'm not sure if it's the conjunction that makes you feel that way. I have the conjunction myself, and I don't feel ugly. I think I have "flaws" for sure, but they're mine so I either like them or feel ok about them. When I was younger I had insecurities about my height and scars. Over time they have became a part of my identity, so I don't feel bad anymore.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 20, 2013 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have the conjunction i feel ugly, personality and appearance and i think others don't find me attractive, why do i have to live like this? Full of suffering , i must of been one hell of a vain person in my past life and now im paying the price.

I feel like I have vanity karma. My square is from Saturn in Taurus to Venus in Leo. I must have been really super vain in a past life to merit that spooky square from the eighth house to the tenth. I also have Pluto conjunct south node in twelve. It does make me wonder...

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whaaat
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posted December 20, 2013 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 20, 2013 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have the conjunction i feel ugly, personality and appearance and i think others don't find me attractive, why do i have to live like this? Full of suffering , i must of been one hell of a vain person in my past life and now im paying the price.

I can't relate . At all. And I have Venus in Libra conjunct Saturn.

I think my issue is not in feelin "unattractive" / "unworthy", its in being unable to express love and affection to partners.

Both these planets fall in my 7th house and , although I get many suitors who make it clear how much they want me etc, I am very picky and usually play very hard to get.

This aspect is not playing out as a "curse" ime. Infact, I have people saying that they had initially wanted to make advances on me all the time.

But once people get to know me they say "I had a crush on you, but you seemed so unapproachable". But I like it like that.

I am not romantic but sincere and have been described by my exes as "beautiful but closed off".

The "closed off" part is Saturn, I know. But really, I have no issues whatsoever with this placement. I love it


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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 20, 2013 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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