posted December 21, 2013 02:37 AM            

If you are the father, I'll check 5th house to see what kind of parent you are(since it deals with children). Also 10th house since it deals with responsibilities. Maybe also 4th since it represents the family u have as adult.
I think Uranus in 10H means unconventional father role (might not be present, might run away). Sun in 10H probably means too career focused (too busy).

Of course there's Saturn affliction which has been discussed.

posted December 21, 2013 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Thats strange, ive never heard that before but I know that my dad has saturn in cancer (conj NN) and his father died the same day he was born.

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posted December 21, 2013 07:15 AM            

I have an absent father, but who was very much present in my childhood. He made some bad choices when I was a pre-teen, which still plays out today. He makes promises he never delivers, which makes me not trust him. As a woman now, I see him as a weak, broken man, that needs a lot of help and love in his life.

posted December 21, 2013 07:21 AM            

I have natal sun in eleventh conjunct twelfth trine Saturn in eighth conjunct the cusp. The sun is nearly void except for that trine. I have a Cancer MC and the ruler is exalted but has a strong affliction to Neptune and is also pretty much void in aspect to personal planets.

Don't forget to look at MC and it's ruler, not just sun and Saturn.

posted December 21, 2013 08:46 AM            

I always thought...and overall my chart is an "easy" looking chart, only good aspects between planets I mean, it must be...

Sun Conjunct Saturn &
Chiron Opposite Saturn .

posted December 21, 2013 09:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Retrograde Saturn

Either very weak or absent father Or it could be the exact opposite.
If Retro Saturn shows up along with Pluto making a hard aspect to Moon in one's natal chart, then the picture is crystal clear - weak father and a dominating mother. No exception to that.

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posted December 21, 2013 10:25 AM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Traditionally Sun rules fathers and 4th rules father and heritage. Saturn rules old men.

Modern astrology prefers Saturn for fathers and there seems to be a confusion of whether the 4th or 10th rules fathers.
Either way I'm in trouble as have Aqu Sun and Saturn in Cancer in the 4th.

arcturiann - Pretty much every Saturn in cancer has problems. Now I know that means 2.5 years of people but I remember there was many problems with my peers - absent dads, dads who worked away from home etc. it can mean a minor social disadvantage - eg an elderly father, financially poor father etc but a father who will nonetheless be attentive to a child like mine was. My in- laws have Saturn in Cancer too - one parent had an unsympathetic father, one who left the family and remarried to create two more families with other wives and neglecting children of first marriage.
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat02.htmlSaturn - Chiron aspect

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It appears your link is broken :P, oops nevermind, I just noticed saturn as part of your text was not meant to be in it.

I have retrograde saturn opposite chiron (and conjunct my jupiter) myself. I wonder if this means some sort of wounding to my father, as I felt like his father not being there for him left him somehow deficient in sort of the nuturing fatherly roles that were absent in my relationship with him. I saw him as more of a disciplinarian and a teacher than a "father" like how you imagine on tv where they teach you how to play ball and teach you cute facts of life sort of things.

Which is why I see fathers as having two sides to them, the more nurturing and guiding side which I associate with the sun, things like what your dad did with you growing up like kind of attention he gave you, what you learned from him in terms of the subconscious personal predispositions and behaviors.

I associate saturn with how he may or may not have added structure to your life, since in this culture/generation children often see their father as this governing ruler over their lives that dictate these rules, regulations, and limitations.

posted December 21, 2013 02:31 PM            

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Why should I crowd up the forum with another thread.

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posted December 21, 2013 02:36 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Why should I crowd up the forum with another thread.

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Because that's what the forum is for. I think it's high time for you to learn the appreciation for organization

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posted December 21, 2013 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
No it's not.. .
Use some logic?
Both concepts go hand in hand.
If there is an astrological indication for an absent father there must be one for a present father.
I'm sorry you are so close minded that you can not see two halves of a whole.

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Lol. It's funny that you refered to logic when you totally missed the point of my post. Of course there is the other side of the coin, there always is. I simply think it would be more reasonable to start a separate discussion instead of creating scattered off-topic here. It would make this thread more difficult to navigate. But do what you want you reptile