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Venus De Milo
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posted December 21, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met someone new, I like him a lot, and enjoy his company, but don't really see a future in it long term.

Interestingly, in our composite, the only aspect Venus makes is a square to Neptune. This is extra significant since my ruler is Venus. I don't know who his ruler is bc I don't have a birth time, so the composite ASC is off and the Moon is very questionable.

Astro.com:

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The square of composite Venus and Neptune requires that the two of you be quite wary about the true nature of this relationship. If you are not careful and unless you evaluate yourselves thoroughly, you could experience great disappointment. With this particular Venus-Neptune aspect, you may believe that you have met the ideal of your life, especially in a romantic sense. The love of your life is here!
Neptune is the planet both of illusion and the ideal, and under its influence you are likely to find it very difficult to tell which is which. You must ascertain whether each of you is for real; that is, are you relating to each other or to some idealized fantasy? Is the spiritual element that you see in each other and in your relationship real or not?
You must examine this situation very closely, for you cannot afford to live in a fool's paradise. Your relationship may be either very good or very unreal, and you must find out which it is.

Cafe Astrology is a little more forgiving:

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This relationship can begin with a lot of hope and shared fantasies, but there is a time when realities set in and you might realize that a lot of what you've been projecting to your partner and believing about your partner is not based on reality. One or both of you might feel pressure to live up to the other's fantasies or high opinion, or you might be trying to prove your relationship to disapproving or cynical outsiders. While you might feel that you intuitively understand one another, and that you don't need to define your connection or your boundaries, it is more than likely that you don't truly know what it is your partner wants or expects of this relationship. Misunderstandings can lead to major disappointments, so it is critical that you allow one another to feel comfortable enough to express your more human needs and wants from each other. Fear of hurting one another with the truth can be strong, but eventually you will discover that lies hurt more than the truth. Hypersensitivity and treating one another with kid gloves are possible themes as you strive towards a spiritual or unconditional love, but it is vital that you ground yourselves from time to time, or this relationship might be confused and unclear.

I guess I'm worried that if I keep seeing this guy, he's going to devastate me in some way!!! AARRGGHHH!!!

I guess this is why you probably shouldn't sneak around peeking at people's astrological charts prematurely, lol.

Any experiences with this aspect in the composite? Thoughts?

FYI, the synastry is rather ho-hum. However, his Aries Moon is certainly in my 7th (cannot be conjunct the DC though, earliest placing on that day is 16 Aries... my DC is 7 Aries) and I have no idea about his ASC. It's likely his Moon is opposed my Pluto (19 Libra), which would also make it trine my Venus/Neptune conjunction at 19 Sag.

So anyway, would love your thoughts on this aspect in the composite and anything else

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Doux Rêve
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posted December 22, 2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could certainly be problematic but I wouldn't say it's doomed.

Just make sure you both want the same thing, really. It comes down to expectations.

Good luck!

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babybull82
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posted December 22, 2013 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seeing someone and the only hard aspect we share in synastry is good ol' venus sq neptune. In the beginning I found myself wondering if he was lying about certain things. But I find that if I am direct and just ask him straight up what's going on he'll tell me (Could be due in part to his scorp sun/cancer moon/scorp rising AND Merc scorp)Sometimes he's TOO honest . Now whether or not I chose to believe him is my problem. Oh also with this aspect (and you should do this with ANY man) def watch the ACTIONS. He can say pretty words and all that to suck you in, but if his actions aren't aligning with those words, then you know what you're dealing with. I think it also depends too what other aspects you have going on that can maybe soften the blow of this aspect..I'm sure there are others who are more knowledgeable on this subject..but I will say that in my last long term relationship, I was the venus and I know they say usually the venus is deceived, but in this case I distinctly remember him saying "you aren't what I thought you were"..I think the deceiver and the deceivee(I know not a word) can swing both ways with this aspect.

Good luck!!

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IMoppedtheFloor
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posted December 22, 2013 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IMoppedtheFloor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll like it cuz you already have Venus-Nep in your natal chart.

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Venus De Milo
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posted December 22, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thanks for your replies!

Interesting what you guys say, bc we ARE in a weird position... like, he's someone I only just ever met and never, ever heard of... but we know a lot of the same people from waaaaaaaay back... and physically... we really, really suit each other. It feels like someone I've known forever, but I haven't??? He's just like people I've known my whole life, but I met him last week!

Other than that, he got out of a 5 year relationship LAST MONTH... so, while he urge to hang out every day is there, I know he's pulling back and is not ready. But he pursued me.

He also has a 6 year old daughter he has custody of and his own business... he's unapologetically devoted to her (as he should be!!!) and told me due to employee problems, he has to work 2 weeks straight. I thought maybe he's just creating space or seeing someone else... but he went into this longwinded, detailed explanation about exactly what the prolem is and why he has to work and I was like "OK, I believe you" (hehe, babybull!).

I guess we'll just see and I suppose its not doomed, haha.

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babybull82
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posted December 23, 2013 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venus De Milo:
Hey, thanks for your replies!

Interesting what you guys say, bc we ARE in a weird position... like, he's someone I only just ever met and never, ever heard of... but we know a lot of the same people from waaaaaaaay back... and physically... we really, really suit each other. It feels like someone I've known forever, but I haven't??? He's just like people I've known my whole life, but I met him last week!

Other than that, he got out of a 5 year relationship LAST MONTH... so, while he urge to hang out every day is there, I know he's pulling back and is not ready. But he pursued me.

He also has a 6 year old daughter he has custody of and his own business... he's unapologetically devoted to her (as he should be!!!) and told me due to employee problems, he has to work 2 weeks straight. I thought maybe he's just creating space or seeing someone else... but he went into this longwinded, detailed explanation about exactly what the prolem is and why he has to work and I was like "OK, I believe you" (hehe, babybull!).

I guess we'll just see and I suppose its not doomed, haha.


Perfect example of venus sq neptune in action: Tonight I took my own advice and asked my guy where we are right now and where he'd like things to go with us. Due to some distance (not much, but still annoying nonetheless) we can not be together as often as we'd like. So I can't use ACTIONS to determine if he is legit or not with his feelings. He simply said he wants more of me, but can't do much right now because of distance, but we well have a more in depth conversation when we see each other..(this was thru text) then I said "ok so are we boyfriend and girlfriend" He says "yes didn't we already say that? I don't remind you or anything" then added "but I call you sweetheart!" lol. I was like oh crap..I didn't even realize we were "official"

I notice with this placement there are usually no boundaries or defined lines..here I was thinking he was just saying I'm his and all this sweet stuff just to be nice because he liked me..but he's been thinking the entire time we're a couple (which we are, but I never got the memo apparently)like I honestly didn't realize we were "boyfriend and girlfriend" I was looking for some official declaration.

Thus ALL of this wordiness to say it is VERY important with this placement to ask questions of your partner if you are unsure of where things are or what's really going on. If left unchecked things can get sticky if you guys have two different ideas on where thing are with the relationship or anything else for that matter.

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popcorn
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posted December 24, 2013 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a man and our composite was neptune in square to sun conj mercury conj venus... I could not talk to him. I believed on everything he said.. He was not a person to trust on.. and when I understand that I cut out him and only write him my answer. If I talked to him I knew I will change my mind and believe on him.

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Delilah423
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posted December 24, 2013 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a very wide square in composite, and a very close opposition in synastry with the man I'm currently dating. I'm the Neptune.

I sometimes worry he's lying to me about certain things, but when I'm rational/logical about it, he probably isn't because everything else has checked out exactly the way he says. It's just that there are certain questions I don't think or want to ask and he doesn't think or want to volunteer in the absence of a question. In other words, I don't think there's deliberate deception going on (I bristle at that word), but I can certainly see where that might be the unconscious result for both of us.

In other words, I agree with babybull...

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Venus De Milo
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posted January 01, 2014 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys!

My dude had to work 2 weeks straight & went camping with his (male) friend, and both their kids (dude has 1 daughter) over NYE. FB confirms this, lol.

He did wish me a Merry Christmas, and now I'm trying not to feel annoyed because I wished him a happy new year and he hasn't responded. That's so rude!!!

But then I read this thread and maybe he didn't get the text, maybe he missed the notification and its just sitting there... maybe maybe maybe... I should just give him the benefit of the doubt for a minute, lol.

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