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posted December 23, 2013 02:00 AM            

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Does Pluto hold on long after both parties want to let go? I have a few Pluto contacts in synastry with someone, and a lot of them in the composite. We don't speak directly anymore (haven't for quite some time) but they still seemed linked to me anyway. Figured it was this but wanted extra opinions.

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posted December 23, 2013 09:39 AM            

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Sun conjunct-Pluto Moon-square Pluto synastry with a guy. I was the sun-moon person I told him he needed to let go. He told me "I never let go of people". I hate him

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posted December 23, 2013 09:56 AM            

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Lol! Because it just keeps going on forever when nothing changes? Or why?

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posted December 23, 2013 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Sun conjunct-Pluto Moon-square Pluto synastry with a guy. I was the sun-moon person I told him he needed to let go. He told me "I never let go of people". I hate him

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does this guy have a strong Pluto in his natal?

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posted December 23, 2013 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Sun conjunct-Pluto Moon-square Pluto synastry with a guy. I was the sun-moon person I told him he needed to let go. He told me "I never let go of people". I hate him

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LOL I had a lot of aspects with someone's planets and my pluto and THIS is exactly how we are now. He wouldn't let go of me and I ended up hating him so bad. Even with other girlfriends he's always trying to tell me he still loves me and cant get over. Seriously dude eff off.

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posted December 23, 2013 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol! Because it just keeps going on forever when nothing changes? Or why?

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Cos he made me think that we had something special and then I found out some baad stuff. Then he acts as if nothing happened and continues to contact me after I tell him nicely not to. That was 2 years ago and he still randomly tries to contact. He also appears in my dreams. Too bad we can't use natal charts to weed out the a******s
I don't think too much pluto is great in relationships unless both people really know what they are doing. It will change you and not necessarily for the better. Just saying

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posted December 23, 2013 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
does this guy have a strong Pluto in his natal?

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He has venus square pluto and pluto conjunct ascendant. Apart from that he's pretty much alll Jupiter.

I am very strong pluto. He looked intense and that's why I was attracted. I feel deceived by his outer appearance. Its like opening a Christmas present and finding out its all fluff inside. pff

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posted December 23, 2013 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
LOL I had a lot of aspects with someone's planets and my pluto and THIS is exactly how we are now. He wouldn't let go of me and I ended up hating him so bad. Even with other girlfriends he's always trying to tell me he still loves me and cant get over. Seriously dude eff off.

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ya its like take a hint. But for me it was more like....after allll that intensity and passion and depth, you went and messed up and won't even admit it. ok. Bye.

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posted December 23, 2013 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Cos he made me think that we had something special and then I found out some baad stuff. Then he acts as if nothing happened and continues to contact me after I tell him nicely not to. That was 2 years ago and he still randomly tries to contact. He also appears in my dreams. Too bad we can't use natal charts to weed out the a******s
I don't think too much pluto is great in relationships unless both people really know what they are doing. It will change you and not necessarily for the better. Just saying

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Same thing happens to me over and over again.
I have been *wise* enough to NOT date people when it was MY Pluto that was aspected. Yes, the attraction feels fated and magical at first, but once you've gotten to know your own Pluto, you know better. Or you should.
With all the dirty stuff I've discovered under the carpet, how they could think something is still possible between us is beyond my understanding.

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posted December 23, 2013 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by dadoo:
Same thing happens to me over and over again.
I have been *wise* enough to NOT date people when it was MY Pluto that was aspected. Yes, the attraction feels fated and magical at first, but once you've gotten to know your own Pluto, you know better. Or you should.
With all the dirty stuff I've discovered under the carpet, how they could think something is still possible between us is beyond my understanding.

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posted December 23, 2013 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
LOL I had a lot of aspects with someone's planets and my pluto and THIS is exactly how we are now. He wouldn't let go of me and I ended up hating him so bad. Even with other girlfriends he's always trying to tell me he still loves me and cant get over. Seriously dude eff off.

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what were the aspects and which planet were you?

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posted December 23, 2013 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by dadoo:
Same thing happens to me over and over again.
I have been *wise* enough to NOT date people when it was MY Pluto that was aspected. Yes, the attraction feels fated and magical at first, but once you've gotten to know your own Pluto, you know better. Or you should.
With all the dirty stuff I've discovered under the carpet, how they could think something is still possible between us is beyond my understanding.

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How did you feel as the pluto person? were you the one obsessed?

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posted December 23, 2013 06:38 PM            

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Retro Mercury trine Retro pluto I actually like the non verbal communication we share.
We don't have many conversations we just sort of gaze into each others eyes. It seems to better that way too.
I remember when we first made eye contact it consistently lasted for like 5 minutes and it was so awkward for the other person because we were so quite and they came to ask me a question about my 8th grade experience. LOL

The thing is if it was anyone else I would probably laugh at them or get weirded out.
Btw I'm junior in uni now.. Pluto never lets go. -__-

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posted December 23, 2013 06:43 PM            

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How did you feel as the pluto person? were you the one obsessed?

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I tend to be a little obsessive anyway (Venus loosely opp. Pluto), but when my Pluto is directly involved, there's that intense and unmistakable feeling that you know the person before even having started to interact with them.
When it's *normal* compatibility, the more you talk to the person, the more you realize how much you have in common. Not so with Pluto. Pluto just knows. Even without talking. Even without knowing each other for real.
Of course it feels like magic. And no, it's not a good sign. At least not for me anymore.
Thank God I have a strong mercury trine my Plutonito and I have learnt to decode my own bs.

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posted December 23, 2013 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by dadoo:
Same thing happens to me over and over again.
I have been *wise* enough to NOT date people when it was MY Pluto that was aspected. Yes, the attraction feels fated and magical at first, but once you've gotten to know your own Pluto, you know better. Or you should.
With all the dirty stuff I've discovered under the carpet, how they could think something is still possible between us is beyond my understanding.

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Oh I loveeeee that!! How do you get to know your own Pluto?

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posted December 24, 2013 04:04 PM            

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Oh I loveeeee that!! How do you get to know your own Pluto?

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I really don't want to sound like I master the Pluto in my chart. Nothing could be further from the truth. Yet, I have made great progress in handling some situations where it is involved. I recognize it when it triggers a thought or a behavior I normally wouldn't have.

The mercury trine definitely helps, but I've had this aspect from birth, and that didn't prevent me from falling into Pluto traps until recently.
Maybe what helped me the most is observing the effects of Pluto transits on my planets. It was not "my" Pluto, so it was kind of easier to objectify and I started recognizing patterns. Like, for instance, sudden fits of paranoia. Or stupid risk taking. That kind of things.
Then, having recognized it outside of me, I started seeing mine and how it affected my behavior. I have a lot to discover yet, but for instance, I usually know when I meet someone if my Pluto is involved or not. If it isn't, and this particular, strange energy is floating around, chances are that it's their Pluto.
I find that I'm getting better and better at recognizing it. But it also took lots of severe crashes and burns until I could establish the link between certain events/behaviors and Pluto action.
So for me the recipe was experience + transit observation. + (later) current events analysis.

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