posted December 31, 2013 01:23 AM            

I really identify with antagonists in most movies shows and books.

I use to love ALL the sailor moon villains.
I wanted to be them..

DOES ANYONE ELSE UNDERSTAND BY OBSESSION?

Oh yeah and my favorite song The Misfits! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPF_xYlfCyg

When we use to play pretend I always use to the bad guy.. I enjoyed it a lot!!

posted December 31, 2013 02:40 AM            

Idk about Sailor Moon because I only watched a couple of episodes and didn't really get it, but my sister was HELLA into it.

I was into Avatar the Last Airbender, though. Was it just me, or was Azula a total badass?

posted December 31, 2013 03:28 AM            

I generally like most antagonists.. somewhat of the fence about slasher villains but I use to always enjoy watching the STUPID protagonist run up the stairs and hide in the closet waiting for natural selection to take place... I always enjoyed the sassiness of ghostface.

Hmm if i was villain it be me reanimated with the soul of a demon... likeeeeee

I forgot must be 8th house too!

posted December 31, 2013 06:12 AM            

For example, I remember once there was an animated series in which a villain was initially innocent and belonged to the good guys, but was tricked by a bad guy and lost an opportunity for becoming one of the heroes that she so wanted to become. She was not forgiven nor given a chance by the authority of the good guys, and so she ended up being a bad guy later. I felt sad for this character, and empathized with her pain. If I remember correctly, in the end she still sacrificed herself for the good guys as she was good inside.

Also, there is a Japanese comics artist that I like, whose name is Kaori Yuki, and her stories often involved villains that has a good and emotional side. Her ways of presenting negative feelings such as possessiveness, desire and jealousy is also more understanding and in a different perspective, not in the traditional way of simply putting a label of "bad" on them.

Thought as I grow up, I understood that even thought there were reasons and pain behind the villains' actions, evil actions are still evil and there are natural consequences of it, and it's important for the good side to win (also, it's not that I don't like main guys as I do too, but it's just I also find villains fascinating).

posted December 31, 2013 06:19 AM            

Aries Moon/Venus/Mercury/BML in the 8th house, near Eris, and trine Uranus/Lilith conjunction from the 4th house.

Saturn in the 3rd conjunct IC and square Virgo AC.

Scorp Pluto in the 3rd oppose Taurus Mars and square Aqua Jupiter, with Neptune trine/sextile Mars and AC/Pluto.

North Node in Taurus, South Node in Scorp. My Scorpionic themes probably allowed empathy with the bad guys, thought Taurus NN lessons probably is what contributed to me coming to understand that it's still necessary for good side to win and the importance of goodness in the world.

posted December 31, 2013 06:25 AM            

ETA: Sometimes though, I'm like "Why is the bad guy hotter?! arrggh"

posted December 31, 2013 07:11 AM            

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ETA: Sometimes though, I'm like "Why is the bad guy hotter?! arrggh"

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posted December 31, 2013 07:44 AM            

For example -

Damon in Vampire Diaries
Cole in Charmed

posted December 31, 2013 06:06 PM            

I am a fan of Byronic and Anti-heroes ; Heroes who aren't defined by conventional aspects of heroism.

My favourite Anime Anti-Hero of all times has to be Lelouch from Code Geass:

I mean... JUST HOW AWESOME IS THIS LINE?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuSUDlK2dc

posted December 31, 2013 06:39 PM            

Maybe it's my afflicted Mars?

posted December 31, 2013 06:48 PM            

My Mercury-Jupiter aspect likes the humor from Chucky and Freddy and my Mercury-Pluto likes Lector's intelligence and his dark charisma.

posted January 01, 2014 03:58 AM            

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I am not a fan of either Protagonists or Antagonists. In the polarity and ideologies of their beliefs, they don't end up realizing that that they are pretty much mirror aspects of themselves and aren't all too different from each other; Not doing what it truly takes to finish the task at hand.

I am a fan of Byronic and Anti-heroes ; Heroes who aren't defined by conventional aspects of heroism

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I lean strongly that way, too. There are times I sympathize strongly with villains, like Eric in X-Men: First Class, had he not been there and the unquestioned bad guy was defeated then all the mutants would've been killed. And Charles saying the American and Russian military trying to obliterate them were "good men just following orders" made me lose a lot of sympathy for the character.

I also like heroes with darkness and villains with conscience and where there's a lot of nuance. And my favorite stories involving violent conflict are where those I see as good guys are locked in deadly battle (example would be Princess Mononoke) as opposed to a hero vs. a villain as it's so much more compelling to me. Maybe it's my heavily aspected Libra Pluto on the Scorpio cusp.

Anyway, I thought you'd appreciate this (3 pages):
http://www.cracked.com/article_18417_9-famous-movie-villains-who-were-right-all-alon g.html

posted January 01, 2014 04:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
aquaguy91:
I'm the opposite... I always side with the protagonist. My Aquarius placements maybe? Or sun trine mars?

--lol, I always identified with the protagonists too but liked the brooding ones. Batman was *way* more interesting than superman
Same thing with Wolverine.

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posted January 01, 2014 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I lean strongly that way, too. There are times I sympathize strongly with villains, like Eric in X-Men: First Class, had he not been there and the unquestioned bad guy was defeated then all the mutants would've been killed. And Charles saying the American and Russian military trying to obliterate them were "good men just following orders" made me lose a lot of sympathy for the character.

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Eric (Magneto) in First Class was absolutely amazing as a character. The transcendence of his power along with his character shift was being in turmoil to arriving at a point of inner peace and acceptance was perfectly portrayed. He is my fav. mutant from the X-Men series.

Charles needs to have his teeth kicked out.

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Anyway, I thought you'd appreciate this (3 pages):
http://www.cracked.com/article_18417_9-famous-movie-villains-who-were-right-all-alon g.html

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Oh I def. do! I especially agree about the point where the Machines in the Matrix series had every right to do what they did. You have to watch the Animatrix episodes entitled "The Second Renaissance" to get that:

You can catch the who prequel movie online somewhere but here is a clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGzMfg381Y

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That aside, I've never heard of Code Geass. But I did like that clip if in a somewhat Twainy way of, "I find his honesty refreshing." No trying to dress it up as heroic or the will of the people or otherwise noble (which even Hitler did), just pure no BS egomaniac.

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Code Geass IMO is probably one of the best Anime Series you will ever see. The story is enriching, engrossing yet suspenseful! There are so many twists and turns in the story that there will be times where you will be totally shocked with the outcome.

The characters are interesting with complex pasts and even more twisted lives. Lelouch however stands out the most out of all of them; Probably the most interesting and awesome male protagonist ever created .

I highly recommend you watch the series.

Here is the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKAwzRuLKi0

And while we are at it, here is Lelouch awesome moment # 2:

posted January 01, 2014 07:18 PM            

--*hehe* I liked the grumpiness of both Batman and Wolverine. They were the good guys but they had a rough edge to them unlike Superman or Cyclops