posted December 31, 2013 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Sagittarius.

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posted December 31, 2013 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
So the Zodiac has moved to a monthly cycle?

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posted December 31, 2013 06:32 PM            

However, the Sun and the Moon are both 30 seconds or arc wide, and the location of both of these is judged according to the location of the center of their diameter. The Sun and Moon each span 15 seconds of arc on either side of the center of their diameter. This means that if either of these two bodies are more the 29'45 in a sign, or less then 00'15 in a sign, then tip of their diameter would be sticking into another sign. Since the Sun and the Moon are circular (not square shape) the amount of the disc sticking out into the other sign exponentially decreases the further away the disc is from the boarder of a sign. Think of it as a disc going over a line, and what we'd have to do If we had to calculate the portion of the disc on either side of this line as it moved.

If your Sun is at 29'51, this is where the center of the Sun was the moment you were born. Your Sun would span from 29'36 to 00'06 Capricorn.

posted December 31, 2013 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
If you are interested in knowing your TROPICAL/WESTERN Sun sign, it's Sagittarius.

However, the Sun and the Moon are both 30 seconds or arc wide, and the location of both of these is judged according to the location of the center of their diameter. The Sun and Moon each span 15 seconds of arc on either side of the center of their diameter. This means that if either of these two bodies are more the 29'45 in a sign, or less then 00'15 in a sign, then tip of their diameter would be sticking into another sign. Since the Sun and the Moon are circular (not square shape) the amount of the disc sticking out into the other sign exponentially decreases the further away the disc is from the boarder of a sign. Think of it as a disc going over a line, and what we'd have to do If we had to calculate the portion of the disc on either side of this line as it moved.

If your Sun is at 29'51, this is where the center of the Sun was the moment you were born. Your Sun would span from 29'36 to 00'06 Capricorn.

The vast majority of the Sun's disc would be with in the sign Sagittarius, which would be your sign. A tiny portion of your Sun would stick out into Capricorn, which may give a hint of an influence if you want to get technical. But there's no denying that the majority of it is firmly in Sagittarius.

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posted December 31, 2013 08:00 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
But check the real location and not the tropically recorded!

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Said one who considers themselves an Ophiuchus.

Ya know, this forum is primarily dedicated to the practice of Western Astrology which uses the Tropical Zodiac.

posted December 31, 2013 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Said one who considers themselves an Ophiuchus.

Ya know, this forum is primarily dedicated to the practice of Western Astrology which uses the Tropical Zodiac.

Although I do study Vedic astrology as well, and see both as having validity, just on different levels.

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Sorry, it seems like i am preaching, i am just trying to share what i have learnt.

What are you meaning to say when you say "says someone who is an Ophiuchus" Yes .. i believe i am an Ophiuchus Sun - Sagittarius Moon, Scorpio rising.

This and all forums will be primarily dedicated to the practice of the Western Tropical birth chart, created at 200Ad.
People e using this chart, either un-aware of the movements in our solar system or a disbelief in the shifts (Pisces-Aquarius.)

The western chart, as real as it seems, and it does, realistically can't work. ..

In terms, it is a 2000 year old pre-dated out of alignment chart that compressed what really is into a man-made image.
There is a slight chance it could still work, but in all charts currently used the Planets and aspects keep there relative positions, only the signs change, meaning it is difficult to notice the true sign that was there.
This means we need to keep up to date on astrology ourselves, and not stay hugging the chart created 2000 YEARS AGO because we are to scared to move forward, or people are to in fear to change things for themselves, this is the shift that is currently going on..
In my opinion the Tropical is the seasonal Alpha chart and the 13 sign chart is the Moon chart.
The sidereal-tropical argument has been going on now for decades.
The Pluto in Scorpius generation dawning the Aquarian age will dig up the truth so we can keep moving forward and carry on the movement!

posted December 31, 2013 10:49 PM            

You are entitled to your opinion, but you must also be aware that the majority of people don't agree with you, and see your assertions as somewhat absurd.

I believe I've already explained to you an another thread the details of how the Tropical zodiac is not tied to the constellations, but rather to Earths path around the Sun, and the cycle that this creates.

posted January 01, 2014 06:27 PM            

Check Topocentric on Astro.com and see if it changes to Capricorn.