posted January 06, 2014 12:15 PM            

Aphrodite in Gemini (2H)
semisextile ASC
conjunct Hermes and Ares
sextile Artemis and Hera(3)
quincunx Dios
sesquiquadrate Poseidonas

Hera(3) in Aries (12H)
semisextile ASC
sextile Hermes, Aphrodite, Ares, Ouranos,
and Poseidonas
trine Dimitra(1) and Hades
square Apollonas, Dios
conjunct Kronos and South Node

posted January 06, 2014 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Venus/Jupiter is great to have in the natal, you lucky! You must experience plenty of pleasant surprises.

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I didn't realize I had this aspect until recently. Same w/ Uranus square Merc - wasn't aware at first.

I genuinely feel optimistic most of the time. I have my down moments like everyone else, but I move on pretty quickly. I thank God for that!

posted January 06, 2014 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
I don't know if you're counting asteroids or not, but Aphrodite and Hera(3) have always been mine. I'll admit it, I'm a romantic person, and love and marriage go hand in hand. I can't help the duality of it; I'm a Gemini!

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I know next to nothing about Aphrodite & Hera lol. Care to enlighten me?

posted January 07, 2014 12:36 AM            

I don't really feel anything for the others. But I don't know them very well yet.

Pluto totally freaks me out.... I'm off now to read you thread on Pluto.

posted January 07, 2014 01:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
[b] *swoons*
What is your opinion of her?

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I have been doing a lot of research and I have a theory that sort of bothers the purists. I am working on a book right now that explains it all in detail though.

I think the introduction of Eris unlocked access to an interesting new facet of rulership. I now append a major ruler and minor ruler to each sign. The major ruler is the force that inspires the sign to act the way it does, and the minor ruler is what the sign identifies as the force that inspires its environment to exist.

Highly Generalized Example:
Aries
Major - Mars: driven to identify and establish a self/purpose.
Minor - Pluto: lives in a world that transforms and shapes Aries's self through raw life experiences.

Scorpio
Major - Pluto: driven by a transforming internal environment, constantly penetrating what it perceives to its most raw form.
Minor - Mars: lives in a world where the fittest survive, where individuals are focused on establishing their selves (occasionally to the detriment or benefit of others).

For me, Eris is the major ruler of Libra (being inspired by an inherent aversion to disharmony) and the minor ruler of Taurus (living in a world chock full of separate objects, to nibble on and experience). I also look at Ceres to be the major ruler of Virgo (being inspired by a desire to exist as a functional/nourishing/symbiotic contributor) and the minor ruler of Gemini (living in a world of interactive systems to explore, comprehend, challenge, convey).

My concept of Eris and even Ceres are a lot more existential than much of what I have read online. I believe Eris represents the paradoxical nature within the universe that makes differentiation possible (which is one of the most basic requirements for living as in individual in a world of individual objects), but also can lead to complete ignorance and dissociation. I see Ceres as the aspect of nature that establishes symbiosis. All things exist in the world because their environments nourished them into existence. And by existing, they nourish their environment in return. Life constantly relies on these systems to thrive and when these systems are out of whack, they infect other systems like a disease. Like the story of Persephone, when Ceres is happy and healthy, everyone gets fed. When she is sad and out of sorts, everything withers into winter.

I particularly like Eris because studying her has been a big mind f-k.

How about you, what have your experiences been?

posted January 07, 2014 02:21 AM            

Interesting you have been observing more esoteric meanings.
You're sag so this makes sense, I'm a gem so I have been looking for cause and effect!

I've been observing people with planets conjunct pluto vs planets conjunct eris. I feel they are companions.
While we all know pluto is intense magnetic and penetrating and very precise.. Also has a virgo element, right.
I'd say more yin just to simplify things.
Eris is seems to be very yang.
She is Electric, looks at the big picture, in general sporadic and explosive energy.
I have seen a lot of astrologers claim she is negative. She can be scary at times. This makes sense because she is not as "seductive" pluto with it's receptive qualities.
Like pluto Eris can amplify planets IMO
If they can hone her energy it could be as powerful and effective as people with prominent pluto connections.

I have Mars conjunct Eris 1 degree. Mars is the planet of action so I think it's a bit of an overwhelming combination. When I was younger I had this uncontrollable surge of energy. So I was often in trouble.. even with the law.
I do have a love for extreme sports too.. I have so many scars on my body from just because of the thrill and power.
My s.o for example has Venus conjunct Eris, I think this amplifies Venus.. a bit like Venus on steroids..I always felt when his Venus was activated it always went above and beyond. Which could scare some people.
I think this again appealed to my Mars which is extreme..
This all could be the result of Eris in Aries.. Again I'm not too sure about the esoteric meaning, that's more your specialization. I just observe things and take mental notes.

posted January 07, 2014 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Yes that would bother the purists, very much.
But I suppose Eris would come into the scene and tear traditional astrology apart.

Interesting you have been observing more esoteric meanings.
You're sag so this makes sense, I'm a gem so I have been looking for cause and effect!

I've been observing people with planets conjunct pluto vs planets conjunct eris. I feel they are companions.
While we all know pluto is intense magnetic and penetrating and very precise.. Also has a virgo element, right.
I'd say more yin just to simplify things.
Eris is seems to be very yang.
She is Electric, looks at the big picture, in general sporadic and explosive energy.
I have seen a lot of astrologers claim she is negative. She can be scary at times. This makes sense because she is not as "seductive" pluto with it's receptive qualities.
Like pluto Eris can amplify planets IMO
If they can hone her energy it could be as powerful and effective as people with prominent pluto connections.

I have Mars conjunct Eris 1 degree. Mars is the planet of action so I think it's a bit of an overwhelming combination. When I was younger I had this uncontrollable surge of energy. So I was often in trouble.. even with the law.
I do have a love for extreme sports too.. I have so many scars on my body from just because of the thrill and power.
My s.o for example has Venus conjunct Eris, I think this amplifies Venus.. a bit like Venus on steroids..I always felt when his Venus was activated it always went above and beyond. Which could scare some people.
I think this again appealed to my Mars which is extreme..
This all could be the result of Eris in Aries.. Again I'm not too sure about the esoteric meaning, that's more your specialization. I just observe things and take mental notes.

Eris as the manipulator.. I'm not too sure I don't believe this energy follows the mythology entirely.
That is just lazy to assume so too.

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Very interesting and cool to hear an alternate perspective. I can definitely see Eris in Aries being sort of the ADD spazoid factor on the planets she aspects. I have Eris conjunct SN/ASC and opposed NN/Pluto/DSC (along with a few other aspects). Bumping into Eris has been sort of like returning to an old stomping ground (as SN does). In my system Eris would be in her detriment in Aries, so it makes sense for her energy to feel a bit awkward. Fortunately she lives in my 12H though, so that Aries enthusiasm is a bit muted for me.

For me Eris in Aries is about discovering how easily we can get caught up in the establishment of our own individuality; facing (or running from) the triviality of all the things we insist are seriously important to the self.

If Aries is the theme of a paradox, the paradox reads, "I AM... AM I?". When Eris moved from Pisces to Aries is when we started having world wars. Since then, the major powers of the world have been racing to build the biggest weapon, to ensure the safety and preservation of their individual selves. We are progressing from a world community to a bunch of individuals participating in an online community. Now days, if you haven't pioneered a product, a brand, or a presence online, you are barely a person at all. The allure of individuality at all costs is our Erisian generation's "apple of discord". Our selfishness can either lead us to a Trojan war or the realization of how trivial and pointless the whole thing is. We can have compassionate and conscientious technology, we can mix physical community with virtual community, and peace is possible without demanding it a gun point, but, this is the stage of evolution we are at.

In a personal sense I feel Eris's place and aspects indicate the parts of our life we can get carried away with (to the point of ruin). They are indicators of situations we have a distorted relationship with, but by approaching those situations with awareness and a pure desire to relate, we unlock the evolved potential of that planet. The problem is (especially with Eris), it appears much easier to adhere to one's perspectives, than expend effort to pursue new views. It's sort of like having an avatar online who can dance beautifully and channeling one's desire to dance into that avatar. The person never actually learns how to dance, but satiates the desire by playing this dancing character all day. Now, if the person actually saw the pointlessness of this activity and instead, signed up for some dance lessons, they would discover their desire to dance was an indicator of inherent talent. Only by abandoning the avatar and pursuing a relationship with dance is this person able to be free. The part that I have difficulty describing is how the above example person's relationship with dance transforms from a contrived and technical comprehension to a naturally visceral experience. It's a total shift in perspective.

Perhaps with Eris conj Mars one must learn to relate with their cause and what they want out of life. We may pursue a path for a long time, but a shift in our perspective of our path might lead to endless energy and a feeling or natural purpose. I dunno, as you mentioned, I have done more esoteric study than cause and effect stuff. =) Does any of that resonate?

posted January 07, 2014 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I love Jupiter! It's my favorite planet.

Pluto totally freaks me out.... I'm off now to read you thread on Pluto.

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What are your aspects w/ Jupiter?

Did you see the Pluto thread? Lot of admirers he has lol.

posted January 07, 2014 10:13 AM            

Jupiter conjunct ascendant
Jupiter conjunct Pluto
Jupiter conjunct Mercury
Jupiter square Saturn
Jupiter sextile Moon
Jupiter sextile Neptune
Jupiter sextile Uranus
Jupiter opposite Nibiru

posted January 08, 2014 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
What are your aspects w/ Jupiter?

Did you see the Pluto thread? Lot of admirers he has lol.

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Jupiter, my love! Let's see.... Not too many aspects, but it is in my 1st so I just feel it brings me "help" or luck I guess when I most need it. Like I've always felt I've lucked out of alot of things. This is before I knew much about astrology and it just seems to me that it's Jupiter in H1. I could be wrong of course.

Jup opp Saturn. Venus also opposes my Saturn as well. I'm convinced that even though Jup and Venus have a 12o orb that Jup helps me with the "challenging" Venus/Sat opp.

Other aspects I don't know much about:
Jup conj Neptune
Jup square MC

Re: Pluto
I've been traveling. Just got home so I had it open but wasn't able to read it yet. I'm going to do that now.

Yes. There are people who love Pluto. I think I just don't quite get him yet. Plus mine in on 29o of the 11H. That freaked me out a bit. those 29o things are supposed to be serious stuff. Yikes!

posted January 08, 2014 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

Jupiter, my love! Let's see.... Not too many aspects, but it is in my 1st so I just feel it brings me "help" or luck I guess when I most need it. Like I've always felt I've lucked out of alot of things. This is before I knew much about astrology and it just seems to me that it's Jupiter in H1. I could be wrong of course.

Jup opp Saturn. Venus also opposes my Saturn as well. I'm convinced that even though Jup and Venus have a 12o orb that Jup helps me with the "challenging" Venus/Sat opp.

Other aspects I don't know much about:
Jup conj Neptune
Jup square MC

Re: Pluto
I've been traveling. Just got home so I had it open but wasn't able to read it yet. I'm going to do that now.

Yes. There are people who love Pluto. I think I just don't quite get him yet. Plus mine in on 29o of the 11H. That freaked me out a bit. those 29o things are supposed to be serious stuff. Yikes!

ETA: Ok, wait, I've just started reading your Pluto thread and it dawned on me that my Jupiter is in Scorpio = Pluto right? Hmmmm, maybe I'm being to hard on Pluto because I love my Scorpio Asc, Venus & Jupiter....

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Yes, lighten up on Pluto! He's intense at times but he's worth it!

And what do you mean about 29o??

Speaking of Jupiter...all my closest relatives have a TIE to it:
-Mom has Sun, Merc & Jup in 9th House. Moon & Saturn in Sag.
-Dad has Moon in Sag.
-Brother has Mars & Saturn in Sag.

posted January 08, 2014 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Nibiru! Lol, Jupiter

Jupiter conjunct ascendant
Jupiter conjunct Pluto
Jupiter conjunct Mercury
Jupiter square Saturn
Jupiter sextile Moon
Jupiter sextile Neptune
Jupiter sextile Uranus
Jupiter opposite Nibiru

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Nice! Good stuff there.

posted January 09, 2014 04:25 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Yes, lighten up on Pluto! He's intense at times but he's worth it!

And what do you mean about 29o??

Speaking of Jupiter...all my closest relatives have a TIE to it:
-Mom has Sun, Merc & Jup in 9th House. Moon & Saturn in Sag.
-Dad has Moon in Sag.
-Brother has Mars & Saturn in Sag.

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Yeah. I think you are right. I've heard lots of bad things about Pluto but I like my Scorpio influences. It's just that it squares my moon & Merc and those attributes have been a bit difficult for me. I'll give him a break!

I've read things about the 29th degree (Anaretic or Critical degree). But I'm not really sure exactly what that's all about. It just sounds intense.

Sag! I have Sun, Moon, & Merc in Sag in the 2nd and Nept in Sag in H1.

Saturn is in Taurus and as bad a rep Saturn gets I don't mind it.

I'm always reminded here on L-G how much more to have to study more really. I can't wait for you to pick a new obsession so I can learn more about that one. What's your next obsession going to be?

posted January 09, 2014 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Eris.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:

^ This ^

I love me some Eris.

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posted January 09, 2014 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
But Eris barely moves.

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posted January 09, 2014 12:59 PM            

I think it's cool you are doing research on Ceres and persephone you should let me know when you're finish writing the book.

posted January 09, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

I'm always reminded here on L-G how much more to have to study more really. I can't wait for you to pick a new obsession so I can learn more about that one. What's your next obsession going to be?

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I'll let you know as soon as my next obsession hits me.

Hell, might become Eris...looking at the chatter lol.

posted January 09, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Xirro do you some Eris activity in your own chart?
I was curious about Eris in synastry..
Specifically conjunctions and oppositions.

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Conjunct:
SN
ASC

Opposed:
NN
Pluto
DSC

Grand Fire Trine:
Sun/Neptune
Mars

YOD:
Quincunx Moon and Uranus (sextiling each other)

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have Ceres in Aqua conjunct MC an I've felt like this makes me accepting of others eccentricities. I'm literally not shocked by anyones unconventional lifestyle choices if anything I definitely encourage individuality.

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And Ceres is also a dwarf planet like Eris/Pluto now =) Does your career or what you have built for your self, have to do with providing nourishment for weird people, collectives of people (unconventional or otherwise), subcultures? What do you do as a career (if you don't mind me asking)? And what/where is your Mercury?

posted January 09, 2014 02:20 PM            

I knowwww It's really that she's on dwaf level!!
It's going to be interesting to observe pluto and ceres transits
Career is more influence by saturn conjunct mc in the 10 house.
Ceres is in the 9th house.
heh maybe I'll be spiritual guru for the freaks and geeks.

posted January 09, 2014 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Asc, what is that like?

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This pic may reveal something, because I think I look the most Aries I have seen in myself, but I'm not sure what to look for really. All I really see is my Chiron in Taurus 1H

OMG REDACTED!

I think Eris draws me into myself and away from being social. I have a sort of obsession with discovering what makes reality tick and have spent a nauseating amount of time focused on observing my internal environmental functions as I participate in reality. So much so, that I can cease to actually participate in reality LOL.

With Pluto on my NN and Eris on my SN there is a life or death pull between pursuing a social/people-oriented existence and running off into the forest and becoming a mountain man (because that feels familiar to me).

Before I paid much attention to Eris, Uranus entered Aries and it was funny to look back at what happened in my life when Uranus transited Eris in my chart.

When Uranus first transited Eris I quit my 7 year career to go be a Buddhist monk.
When Uranus progressed to a waxing square I left the monastery (because it was too focused on people for my tastes) to try to live a monastic life on my own.
When Uranus progressed to opposition, I moved back to my situation prior to visiting the monastery, with the intention to live as a monastic there.
When Uranus progressed to a waning square I had a huge falling out and completely incinerated the bridge that connected me to my old situation.
When Uranus progressed back into conjunction I purchased 3 acres of rain forest on the edge of a Hawaiian national forest, to establish a homestead.

As time has gone on, I have been trying to envision a way to live out in the middle of the jungle, but apply that to a social/people-oriented cause. I would like to build a healing/meditation center or a community food forest (Pluto/NN are in my 6H), but we shall see.

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
heh maybe I'll be spiritual guru for the freaks and geeks.

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posted January 15, 2014 09:20 PM            

-Pluto Sextile Jupiter
-Moon Trine Jupiter
-Jupiter Sextile Venus
-Jupiter Trine Jupiter