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Topic: how does one predict death from the natal chart?
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sc0rpioRising
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posted January 10, 2014 04:27 PM
  
sorry for the depressing title, but its one topic i know nothing about! im thinking its got to do with the 8th house? and 8th ruler?? and transits over the 8th house? IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 10, 2014 06:20 PM
and the Nadir (end of life)------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Sven555
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posted January 10, 2014 06:27 PM
Don't forgot Pluto is involved too!IP: Logged |
SerpeantKing
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posted January 10, 2014 07:53 PM
The 8th house is where clues to our future demise will be and when it is likely to happen. Pluto is also an indicator of death, not in a natal chart, but by transits. IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 10, 2014 09:44 PM
Ask Alice McDermott over at Astrodienst, who actually does know how to predict death in a chart, and was able to give examples to support it...and was promptly flamed by half the board afterwards for stating so.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted January 10, 2014 10:45 PM
Jupiter is usually prominent in the chart by transit.It can be predicted just like any other event. People fear death, that’s why they can’t digest the fact that death too can be predicted. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 10, 2014 11:54 PM
My aunt passed today...
I don't know her time of birth, but I have the rest if her info..
I could post a chart with her natal and passing, synastry style..
As bad as it sounds, I want to learn from this also.. IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising
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posted January 11, 2014 05:22 AM
Hi Lioness, sorry for your loss, were you too close? if you are comfortable posting her chart then yeah it would be a good placce to learn.also i been reading about u and fishy.. only cos some of the questions posted here, youve answered them, and i want u to know u r not alone. ive fallen in love with someone at work.. who doesnt love me anymore.. i dont think he does anyway from his action.. amd its the hardest thing ive ever had to experience.. especially cos i work with him.. and he sits two desks away from me. so just to let u know... i feel a great amoint of pain.. and your not alone. :-) IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 11, 2014 08:26 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss Lioness  Please post your Auntie's chart
and give us a few pointers so that we can rectify her chart.
This will provide us with a great learning experience if that's ok with you. ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted January 11, 2014 09:19 AM
I did a my baby cousins solar return chart for the year he passed. He had hi sun in the 8th house as well as a cap moon for that year. I think these things contributed significantly.IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 11, 2014 04:03 PM
Thank you ..
We weren't close, because I lived in a different state since I was 6.. But when I was little I use to go back for summer visits..
Still I feel the loss, it's heart breaking..
She had cardiac arrest, and loss 99% of brain function.
She was taken off life support... Note
I don't know her time of birth
Blue Is her birth, red is her passing. But she was brain dead for 2 days, prior to her actual passing.  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 11, 2014 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'm so sorry for your loss Lioness Please post your Auntie's chart
and give us a few pointers so that we can rectify her chart.
This will provide us with a great learning experience if that's ok with you.
What do you need to rectify her chart?
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Lioness
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posted January 11, 2014 04:10 PM
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Lioness
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posted January 11, 2014 04:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
sorry for the depressing title, but its one topic i know nothing about! im thinking its got to do with the 8th house? and 8th ruler?? and transits over the 8th house?
I asked what house rules maternal aunt..
H10 is mom
So her h3 of siblings is my h12. My h12 is in aqua, ruled by Saturn/Uranus.
T. Saturn is transiting through my h8, squaring my Leo stellium.
T. Uranus is in my h1 trine my Leo stellium. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 11, 2014 09:15 PM
For a heart attack we want to either put Leo on the cusp of the 8th house (heart) or
The Sun in the 8th.
as Sven mentioned above Pluto will be involved and if we place Leo on the 8th then Saturn and Pluto are posited within. Also Saturn shows a kind of slow or wasting away death (life support)Assuming that Leo is on the 8th house cusp, Cancer will be on the Descendant and a Capricorn Ascendant. With Pluto transiting Capricorn this can fit, it also puts Transiting Uranus on/near the Nadir which shows the suddenness of a heart attack. Does a Capricorn Ascendant fit? What kind of a childhood did she have? If it was hard or crappy (I hate that term) that fits Capricorn
also did she have close (children, husband, parents) relationships with people who were Capricorn? Physically she would be small/thin providing Jupiter isn't in the 1st and she would stoop somewhat. She would also have a wonderfully warm and genuine personality. Does any of this fit?
if not describe her to us and we'll rectify some more
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"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Lioness
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posted January 12, 2014 01:53 AM
She didn't have a heart attack, she went into cardiac arrest, which is when the heart just stops pumping blood.
She's a very small petite woman, 4'11 med brown hair, with dark eyes, a lil darker completion.
The rest of the family is blonde, light eyes, pale skin..
She had darker features than anyone else.She was a spit fire as describe by most.. She wouldn't take no crap from any one.. She had severe addiction issues.
Alcoholic
Cigarettes
And gambling. I really don't know if she was close to caps or not.. When she passed, she passed in a hospital, she just stopped breathing.
She had phenomenon
Broken pelvis
Emfazima (not sure on spelling)
Resporiorty infection.
The reason the life support was removed was because of 99% of brain damage..
He heart was beating at a normal rate, up until passing.
As for childhood, idk much..
Just my grandfather, was a military man, and the meanest man you could ever met.
My mom would say, he's someone you don't want to meet in a dark alley..
I never met him, he dies before I was born.
She did marry 2 men out side of her nationality, but her last husband of 21 yrs wasn't.
She has 1 mixed race child.,
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unforgiven_soul
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posted January 12, 2014 03:18 AM
Yeah I think the 8th house has to do a lot with death. I also noticed on people's natal charts with sudden or violent death they had Saturn in the 12th house.Could it be the same with Mars over there?IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 12, 2014 03:41 AM
Hi~ respiratory and emphysema suggest Gemini so lets place that in the 8th house putting Taurus on the Descendant and giving her a Scorpio Ascendant which fits her physical description and addiction issues.
Addiction is a water sign/Neptune issue, there is also a Sun/Neptune square.With Gemini on the 8th house cusp, Mercury, Uranus, and Venus are posited within.
Again Mercury and the lungs, Uranus suggest her death was unexpected. Sun/9th house could show a husband who was a foreigner or of a different race. Now time to check, The Mercury, Uranus, and Venus stellium suggest a "genius" connected to her work and the Saturn/Pluto conjunction will fall in the 10th house showing her rise to the top in her career. Weather she stays there or not depends on other things but Saturn will get her to the top. How are we doing so far?
do we need more rectification?
------------------ "For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 12, 2014 03:48 AM
Hello unforgiven_soul, Mars/12th shows the possibility of an attack because Mars is behind you and you do not see what is coming.Saturn/12th depends on how close it is to the Ascendant I don't know that I see violence but there is heavy Karma to pay out in this lifetime. ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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sc0rpioRising
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posted January 12, 2014 05:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
Yeah I think the 8th house has to do a lot with death. I also noticed on people's natal charts with sudden or violent death they had Saturn in the 12th house.Could it be the same with Mars over there?
i have saturn in the 12 th house.. and im going through my saturn return right now. .. interesting! IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 12, 2014 03:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hi~ respiratory and emphysema suggest Gemini so lets place that in the 8th house putting Taurus on the Descendant and giving her a Scorpio Ascendant which fits her physical description and addiction issues.
Addiction is a water sign/Neptune issue, there is also a Sun/Neptune square.With Gemini on the 8th house cusp, Mercury, Uranus, and Venus are posited within.
Again Mercury and the lungs, Uranus suggest her death was unexpected. Sun/9th house could show a husband who was a foreigner or of a different race. Now time to check, The Mercury, Uranus, and Venus stellium suggest a "genius" connected to her work and the Saturn/Pluto conjunction will fall in the 10th house showing her rise to the top in her career. Weather she stays there or not depends on other things but Saturn will get her to the top. How are we doing so far?
do we need more rectification?
Yeah. Guess, except the career.. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted January 12, 2014 03:32 PM
Aries 8th house, Mars in the 9th. I might die in an accident abroad. Uranus is in my 8th now but I'm not going to wait for it to end to travel, screw it ^^------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted January 12, 2014 03:59 PM
Anyone know about an 8H overlay with someone putting their SATURN-ATROPOS there? Aries. Just curious. It's in his natal 4H.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted January 12, 2014 07:47 PM
Hi Lioness, if it is yes except for the career we just move it over a bit and take Saturn out of the 10th,Also if she was a bit of a free spirit we move the Ascendant to late Scorpio with a lot of Sag in the 1st house.  ------------------
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Lioness
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posted January 12, 2014 09:07 PM
That may work better, it's all guessing... I can't say for sure.
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