posted January 12, 2014 12:28 PM            

Jupiter has been back and forth in my 12th house and I started feeling pretty isolated for various reasons when this transit started about a year ago, which at first really bothered me since I enjoy having at least somewhat of a social life, and friendships are important to me... But now I'm starting to see the positive side of this transit and actually sort of appreciate it. I know I wouldn't be happy if things continued this way forever, but for now it's sort of a nice break. I also used to have bad insomnia and think I just didn't need much sleep, but for the first time in a lonnnng time I can fall asleep easily and feel like I could probably sleep for days. Which probably just means I'm kind of depressed right now lol but again I actually sort of appreciate it for the time being...

posted January 12, 2014 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
hmm I don't feel isolated. Sometimes I choose to get away for a bit though.

I have 5 planets in the 12th house. Transit pluto, sun and venus are in the 12th now.

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posted January 12, 2014 01:42 PM            

In my progressed chart I have a Virgo stellium in 12H and that side of me will ONLY roam around town, alone, while occasionally jump into random cafes where I can get a feel for the ambiance and auras of different people before heading home to my aloneness. I also have Leo sun conjunct Saturn in pchart.

posted January 12, 2014 03:27 PM            

Being alone is like returning to a cozy cave. All the parts of my social personality (which take great pains to execute lol) sort of fall away. I don;t have to wrack my brain for words to describe my thoughts (Mercury Cap), I don't have to worry about the appropriate level of affection (Venus in Scorpio), I don't have to worry about being aware of another person's intricacies (Moon Virgo), I don't have to worry about reigning in my expressions so others can find me acceptable (Sun Sag). I can just relax and be me, because there is nobody to offend or explain myself to.

Un-freaking-fortunately my NN and Pluto are opposing in the 6H, so being isolated is not particularly productive for applying and exercising my personality and certainly not helpful to my essential obsession of being something shiny, social, and service-oriented when I grow up.

posted January 12, 2014 04:19 PM            

Sometimes i rather be alone but most of the time i am social

posted January 12, 2014 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Good point. I don't feel like it's involuntary.

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For me when this transit started it definitely felt involuntary at first (or at least like I was making the decision to isolate myself without fully understanding why), although Saturn was also squaring my Venus and Jupiter at the time so the world felt like a cold place in general..

@12muddy, Pluto transiting your 12th sounds interesting, what degree is your Asc?

@Charlie, I can relate to switching back and forth. I have natal Sun conjunct Saturn and as you said I can sometimes just observe as a lone wolf, but then again my Sag moon in 5th house craves socializing, attention, fun times, etc. so it's conflicting

posted January 12, 2014 10:45 PM            

Hehe it seems as if pluto's been in my 12th house forever lol it's now conjunct my sun/venus/Uranus/Neptune n square my moon. I guess it does relate to the events that happened in my life recently.

posted January 13, 2014 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
[Bthey're more of a gradual or long term process, but maybe you'll start feeling it more once pluto crosses into your 1st house...?[/B]

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posted January 23, 2014 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
I wonder if this is voluntary psychological isolation. I have pluto transiting my 12th house now and when it just began I blew through all these long standing problems in my home life - stuff that has been going on for a very long time and stuff that was very unhealthy. I couldn't put up with it any longer. But during this process I saw people in my family in a new light and saw them for who they really are and I choose to not be around them or anything they represent if I can at all avoid it. I am emotionally and psychologically starting to venture out on my own after being held down psychologically for my whole life by my family. I am also doing a lot of searching for what I really want in my life (job, friends, home) and I haven't settled on anything just yet so perhaps that will be part of this transit - all the psychological sorting of things. I hope this transit is less volatile than pluto through my 11th which was really horrible. So far I feel stronger in this transit but it just started so maybe I just don't know much about it yet.

Can anyone provide info regarding if the pluto through 12th house transit is better or worse than the 11th house transit?

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posted January 23, 2014 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
Some events were out of my control, some were just so built up that I exploded. Someone else described pluto as a volcano and for me the pressure ruptured once it went into my 12th which was only Jan. 2013. The changes that have been made so far were very long standing problems in my life that were beginning to boil. And they were addressed right at the beginning of this transit! I am now left with a lot of unanswered questions - almost as if I have to fill in empty spaces in my life from friends who vacated during pluto 11 transit to job that ended start of pluto 12 and now emotional space that my family of origin took up after I realized they were just not healthy to have in my life start of pluto 12. I feel I have a lot of work ahead of me.

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