posted January 15, 2014 04:51 PM            

To get straight to the point, I've been seeing a Scorp sun/Cancer moon man. I'll be honest and say things started off very quickly. We became bf/gf quite quickly and during the first week of January, he confessed that he loved me (I said I loved him back, which I do) But then about a wk ago it seemed there's been a change in him. He doesn't seem as affection. He still gives me kisses and such, but not like before where he'd hold me and stuff like that. There are times where I'm afraid to touch him because I'm afraid he'll push me away. I know they say cancer moons are moody, but it's like he's done a complete 180. Part of me thinks that now that he's got me he no longer needs to be as attentive as he used to be and I feel almost taken for granted...then the other part thinks he's just lost interest. He usually initiates sex, but lately he hasn't and of course being afraid to touch him I'm not initiating anything either. After he used my computer the other day he forgot to close a tab and I noticed it was a search for being bipolar? If he indeed was it would make sense that maybe I met him during a manic period and now he's hit a depressive one? I haven't said anything about what I saw though.

Of all of the things I've read about Cancer moons (and scorps) when they say they love you they mean it. But would they give those words out so fast only to take them back so quickly later? If it helps anyway he's a Venus virgo/Mars virgo. I can tell when something is wrong, but he'll say nothing and I'll ask if he's mad at me and he'll say no. I'm trying to remain secure, but he's making it hard. The only other thing I can come up with besides losing interest is he's acting like this on purpose to keep the upper hand and make me feel insecure as some type of control tactic..other than that I don't know.

posted January 15, 2014 05:36 PM            

Manipulation?
Passion?
naive?

posted January 15, 2014 10:15 PM            

His:

Mine:

posted January 16, 2014 12:43 PM            

" we are polyamorous and he's married. He stays with me 4-5 days a week and goes to "visit" his wife on the weekends. So he's stretched pretty thin, which could be a contributing factor to the change"

thing (Say what??!!) should make you realize that his affections will turn on and off.

His chart tells me that he has double standards (scorp sun and scorp ascendent with uranus in the first). He will want to run around and be with whomever - whenever he pleases but god help you if you see other people. He will be JEALOUS! Uranus in the first lends to him being eccentric. Venus in the 10th usually (BUT NOT ALWAYS) points to folks that are prone to infidelity.

Chiron in the 7th tells me there was some childhood wounding centered around an important relationship (?). The loaded 12th tells me that he probably has quite a few hangups. True Node in the 8th tells me that he is in tune with his sexuality (obviously).

posted January 16, 2014 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
To the person who mentioned someone from his past, he found his one of his ex-girlfriends on fb and I *think* they've been messaging. I should probably mention, that we are polyamorous and he's married. He stays with me 4-5 days a week and goes to "visit" his wife on the weekends. So he's stretched pretty thin, which could be a contributing factor to the change. I also have 2 kids which he's probably not used to, as him and his wife currently have none. He's pretty much just thrown himself into the thick of things like school, homework..all of that. So he may be overwhelmed. Well either way I'm going to post our charts and see what you guys say.

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His Moon in eighth suggest a predisposition towards dark moods, intense feelings and a tendency to brood because of current/latent experiences.

This Moody nature is compounded by Sun, Mercury,Saturn and Pluto in 12th: Suggesting a need for privacy and "offloading" and "downtime" from the interaction with the outside world.

Venus square Jupiter is not all that problematic as well as Venus conjunct Mars suggests a demonstrative and affectionate individual.

Uranus conjuncts Jupiter suggests a higher than average intelligence and a genuinely fascinating individual; progressive, unusual and exciting.

The issue I see is Sun, Mercury, Saturn conjunction in Scorpio with Pluto in Libra trailing on all these planets.

Pluto conjunct Sun creates an intense personality and one that is serious and deep feeling.

Saturn conjunct Sun suggests (negatively)a tendency to have a taciturn and pessimistic nature.

Pluto conjunct Mercury suggest a tendency to brood because of reacting with mental processes and thoughts gathered during day to day interactions. These thoughts tend to "consume" them.

Saturn conjunct Mercury adds to the melancholic nature and makes seeing things in a positive light very difficult at times.

Is he a regular with therapists? Does he keep a personal journal to detail his thoughts? If not, I am surprised because all that Scorpio energy needs an outlet.

Suggest that he goes to see a therapist or suggest that you be the "therapist". With this conjunction intercation, you may find that when relating to him, you'll be the therapist anyway.

Also, the Venus conjunct Mars in Virgo could also suggest that physical exercise is an enjoyable outlet of energy. He could try going to gym(if not already) and do something that brings joy.

Saturn/Pluto in Scorpio(wide conjunction) combined can be heavy-going.

With these planets in 12th house, he could try meditating or research spirituality for this outlet.

posted January 16, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Okay - well.... the whole

" we are polyamorous and he's married. He stays with me 4-5 days a week and goes to "visit" his wife on the weekends. So he's stretched pretty thin, which could be a contributing factor to the change"

thing (Say what??!!) should make you realize that his affections will turn on and off.

His chart tells me that he has double standards (scorp sun and scorp ascendent with uranus in the first). He will want to run around and be with whomever - whenever he pleases but god help you if you see other people. He will be JEALOUS! Uranus in the first lends to him being eccentric. Venus in the 10th usually (BUT NOT ALWAYS) points to folks that are prone to infidelity.

Chiron in the 7th tells me there was some childhood wounding centered around an important relationship (?). The loaded 12th tells me that he probably has quite a few hangups. True Node in the 8th tells me that he is in tune with his sexuality (obviously).

In regards to your synastry chart: His neptune squares your moon, venus and mars - that's no bueno. He will lie to you. There is a lot of saturn contacts between the two of you which will make you both clingy... Even though the house synastrty looks decent - I have to say as an outsider looking at the chart it seems a bit toxic. While you might hurt his feelings (your pluto square his moon) - it looks like your heart is true. And, while he might have a fun w/ you and things are probably very romantic even idealistic when you are together - he will deceive you. His heart probably isn't in it like it should be.

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Wow!!! Well first thank you! The part about him being jealous and him being able to do what he wants is spot on. I've already caught on to that. I knew his neptune squared my venus, but I didn't know about moon and mars being squared as well. When you say toxic in what way, like violence or arguments or us just lying back and forth to each other? I'll admit...I lied a bit in the beginning when I said I was ok with him being poly (I am now) When you say I'll hurt his feelings, you mean just by saying like harsh stuff to him? So I mean all of this stuff is pretty negative, should I just abandon ship here? I don't want to waste my time or get hurt.

Also could you tell me more about those Saturn aspects and what are they? I've been researching a lot about saturn and that when you have quite a few aspects with a person they tend to stay in your life longer than you'd like lol. He doesn't seem clingy, but I think he is with his wife, I talked to her and she said she told him to make sure he gives me time to myself. They've been together for like 5yrs or so and I knew when I met him he would be a totally different guy with me then her. Living with someone vs only seeing them a few days a week is a totally different ball game. I almost want to go back to how things were where I only saw him like 2 or 3 times a month..if only to keep the fantasy alive (venus in pisces) LOL This has been very informative...I guess I can just take what he says with a grain..but I do that anyway because I'm more of an actions speak louder kind of person anyway.

posted January 16, 2014 05:37 PM            

Moon square pluto - you might say harsh things or it might be in your tone but most of the time it won't be intentional. He will just be hyper-sensitive to your actions (no worries- it happens).

You have a mix of saturn aspects flowing both ways (will have to get back to you later on exactly which ones - not in front of the chart I was looking at earlier). You will probably always know each other in one way or another.

The red flags for me are the neptune squares, venus in his 10th and his loaded 12th house. It all seems to scream player with a lot of hidden issues.

posted January 16, 2014 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Thinking it's the scorpio.
Surprising I hear stories on here about scorps telling their victims.. I mean their lovers that they are in love them within a week of seeing each other. You would think a Scorpio would take things like that more seriously.

Manipulation?
Passion?
naive?

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posted January 16, 2014 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Forgot to add - venus in virgo = PICKY!!! The smallest, stupidest thing will completely turn him off.

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posted January 16, 2014 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Toxic in that it (the relationship) will make --you-- feel worse than better. You will always be full of doubt and lack trust (something you seem to be going through now).

Moon square pluto - you might say harsh things or it might be in your tone but most of the time it won't be intentional. He will just be hyper-sensitive to your actions (no worries- it happens).

You have a mix of saturn aspects flowing both ways (will have to get back to you later on exactly which ones - not in front of the chart I was looking at earlier). You will probably always know each other in one way or another.

The red flags for me are the neptune squares, venus in his 10th and his loaded 12th house. It all seems to scream player with a lot of hidden issues.

I could be wayyyyy off - just telling you what I see. In the end you need to follow your heart and find out for yourself.

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Again thank you for the insight! I don't think you're too far off, because I am feeling some doubt about his feelings for me. I know this is going to seem silly, but about a week ago I had a dream that had a snake in it. Now usually for me I'd have those dreams right before me and my ex (father of my children) would get into a very bad fight(read: violent). Who btw was a scorpio and we shared quite a few neptune sqaures as well with one of them being a sq mars. Which to me represents violence, well that's how it manifested itself in that relationship. But I don't get that vibe from him (new guy), not like I did from my ex who was very impatient and would blow a fuse quite quickly. What I do know though is that snakes usually mean bad omen or deception depending on what it's doing in the dream.

posted January 17, 2014 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Being a cancer mooner myself, I was surprised when I read he is in a poly amorous relationship. On top of it, he is a double scorp if I'm not mistaken with his cancer moon in the 8th house, with loads of saturn conjunctions that I happen to share too in Leo. I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly resents the poly amorous thing except if he is not serious. Even if he is not serious, I personally don't think it is an arrangement that he finds satisfying or will likely feel unsatisfying in the long run.

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Not sure why he'd resent it when him and his wife decided jointly to do it. When they first decided to open their marriage his wife had a bit more success as far as dates and such. But at the time she only wanted casual connections. He hadn't even messaged anyone. They were going to try something out with his wife's best friend, but it didn't work and he lost interest. I was the very first person he emailed, we talked for about a week before we met in person. Even then we would talk non-stop just texting all of the time. Then we met for the first time and I remember catching him staring at me, so suffice it to say the connection was there from the beginning. Now his wife wants what we have and she's a little taken aback by how he made a connection with someone on the first try.

posted January 29, 2014 11:46 PM            

Does he have sex with his wife?