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whaaat
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posted January 19, 2014 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My most important goal in life, ever since I can remember was finding love and being loved...

Sun Square Saturn

Saturn Opposition Ascendant

Pluto Square Ascendant
Venus Square Ascendant
Venus Opposition Pluto
Venus Square Saturn


(1) When Saturn is in Scorpio, the sign which rules the genitals, or when the Sun is there parallel, conjunction, square, or opposition to Saturn, the planet of obstruction, the desire nature is held in clock, hence when either of these conditions is found in a woman's horoscope it is safe to judge that she will remain a spinster.

source:http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng08.htm

I don't really understand the above statement...Does it mean that such aspects create a lack of desire and therefore make someone choose to remain a spinster?

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7thGuardian
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posted January 19, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all - the stars above show just "tendencies" - nothing is set in stone. It's up to you - how you live your life as you're the one making the choices (free will). Even when it comes to destiny - that's all about "events (something happens or you meet someone - for example)" - there's no long term destiny as in "destined to live your life in a certain way" - that's up to you. Second of all - that info sounds like amateur B.S. - here's a better interpretation of:

Sun square Saturn

A square formed between the Sun and Saturn shows strong ambitions. There is also a fear and expectation of rejection. You are naturally defensive, and in your early years you may have underestimated your potential and questioned your self-worth. Your road to success may be paved with a few setbacks that you must learn to handle and overcome. As you mature, self-assurance becomes stronger, and you develop the personal relationships that may have been difficult for you earlier. In maturity you possess the excellent business qualities of being steady, skeptical, and persistence. You are likely to carry a heavy load of responsibility throughout your life.


Venus square Saturn

The square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax.

Starts with a description and ends - with an advice on how to deal with it. Here's the full list - if you wanna dabble with it: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/venusaspects.html#vessa

...but again - those are just influences/tendencies.

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 19, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what you mean by spinster...
Do you mean it as in "never married?" or someone who's never had a sexual relationship?


That description sounds way too fatalistic.

If you want to find love you need to love yourself first and with the placements you have you may very well feel unworthy of someone's attention / affection and love.

So, start from there.

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whaaat
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posted January 19, 2014 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I'm not sure what you mean by spinster...
Do you mean it as in "never married?" or someone who's never had a sexual relationship?


That description sounds way too fatalistic.

If you want to find love you need to love yourself first and with the placements you have you may very well feel unworthy of someone's attention / affection and love.

So, start from there.


First of all, thank you for the kind reply. It totally made my day to see people respond to such a personal thread. I did mean marriage/long term relationship (although the concept of 'marriage' does put me on edge; 'a love that lasts' is probably more fitting...).

I really do lack any sort of real self esteem or inner harmony, which is oddly uplifting in the sense that, if the problem is internal, then I am glad. If it's part of me and not my environment, I can most certainly beat it!

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 19, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, whaaat.
I've seen some of your posts around here, and it seems that you've had a pretty rough life so far. I am really sorry about that and I hope you're in a better place now.

I like your attitude though! That's how you should keep it. You can overcome your difficulties. Your past traumas can be healed, and you can be reborn as a new person. A brand new you, with more self-confidence, more wisdom, and more hope...
Now, I'm not saying it's gonna be a walk in the park, because it's not. You will have to work on yourself and it may be painful and difficult. There will be times when you'll feel powerless, and hopeless. Like things will never get better. But keep going... Just keep going and never give up. Because guess what, you deserve the life of your dreams. And that Saturn in your chart can give you the patience, perseverence and wisdom to get where you want to be... Just don't fall into the illusion of powerlessness and futility. Set some goals for yourself and do your best to achieve them. Some day they're gonna pay off, and you'll be amazed at all the things you did. You're worth it. <3

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posted January 19, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whaaat:
My most important goal in life, ever since I can remember was finding love and being loved...

Sun Square Saturn

Saturn Opposition Ascendant

Pluto Square Ascendant
Venus Square Ascendant
Venus Opposition Pluto
Venus Square Saturn


(1) When Saturn is in Scorpio, the sign which rules the genitals, or when the Sun is there parallel, conjunction, square, or opposition to Saturn, the planet of obstruction, the desire nature is held in clock, hence when either of these conditions is found in a woman's horoscope it is safe to judge that she will remain a spinster.

source:http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng08.htm

I don't really understand the above statement...Does it mean that such aspects create a lack of desire and therefore make someone choose to remain a spinster?


Where is your Venus? Perhaps you are looking for an illusive type of love?

When Venus is in the 12th/8th house,finding love can be difficult as one tends to fall for or attract dodgy types or characters.

Venus in 12th, especially, tends to not have a clear definition of what kind of lover they want and often times they may find that they attract lovers of all sorts of characters.

Venus in 9th tends to be rigid and look for the "textbook" kind of love. They may find that this kind of love does not exist.

Venus in 3rd often changes one's mind once in-love. One can also be easily led astray or seduced.

Venus in 10th,2nd house tends to be rigid and not settle for anything but the best. They want the individual to be flawless.

Venus in 5th loves to be in love and can make love a sport. It is easy for these guys to fall in love and keep falling inlove.

Venus in 1st will impress others by showing off how fine and upstanding they are. It is not unusual for Venus in 1st to fall in love at 1st sight or be persuaded to love someone based entirely on how they look/come across to them.

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Ellynlvx
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posted January 19, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all want love.

More importantly, we want the RIGHT love.

With your placements, you don't want to go with the wrong love, because in the end it could end up in legal problems, treachery and the like.

So, you don't want to jump into the fire with this one.

You have a Grand Trine Earth, concentrate on Education, that's where your future lies. Mercury at the MidHeaven, that's YOU.

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