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Topic: Question about Decans
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 22, 2014 09:55 PM
When looking to see which decan your planet(s) are in do you use the same system to find them all? Ex: You look up the decan of your Aries Sun on a website. Do you look at the exact same thing if you're trying to find the decan for your Aries Venus? I'm new to this lol. BTW - feel free to share your favorite sign-decan aspect. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8355 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 22, 2014 10:53 PM
I remember some user on here kept on reminding me that decans are not really about the sign but the planet... I keep on forgetting who but maybe they will see this.For instance if you aries sun is in aries decan it's really the mars decan. I sort of agree with this more because the sign is not always a direct representation of a planet. Mars also rules scorpio which is the most "intense" sign in the zodiac. Generally it's easy to say Mars in an intense and explosive planet. So the decans it rules makes for individuals with a burning passion? My sun-moon is in the Venus decan so I think it emphases a strong sense of aesthetics. I'm more fascinated by art fashion and music which have always been important to me. I mean that's what I studied in school I'm not really interested in anything else lol. Asc: Mercury Sun:Venus Moon: Venus Mercury: Venus Venus: Mercury Mars: Sun Jupiter: Mercury Saturn: Mercury Uranus: Venus Neptune: Venus Pluto: Jupiter/Neptune IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 22, 2014 11:01 PM
Yes, it's the Ruling Planet.Mars Rules all of Aries. First Ten of Aries: Mars-Mars Second Ten of Aries: Mars-Sun Third Ten of Aries: Mars-Jupiter This is because you take all Fire Signs into account in that order, i.e. Aries-Mars Next in line: Leo-Sun Third Fire Sign: Sagittarius-Jupiter It is the same for all of the Zodiac, in the same fashion. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 22, 2014 11:33 PM
Taurus-Earth Venus, Mercury, SaturnGemini-Air Mercury, Venus, Uranus Cancer-Water Moon, Pluto, Neptune Leo-Fire Sun, Jupiter, Mars Virgo-Earth Mercury, Saturn, Venus Libra-Air Venus, Uranus, Mercury Scorpio-Water Pluto, Neptune, Moon Sagittarius-Fire Jupiter, Mars, Sun Capricorn-Earth Saturn, Venus, Mercury Aquarius-Air Uranus, Mercury, Venus Pisces-Water Neptune, Moon, Pluto I use the newer Domicile Attributions, as they make perfect sense to me. Consider both, though. As I said, the first one listed Rules the whole Sign, so always take it into account. You just mix the two. Always consider Dignities when using Decanates, sometimes hidden things will come to light. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 22, 2014 11:46 PM
@Kerosene You are all Mercury-ed out!! LOL IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 22, 2014 11:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: Yes, it's the Ruling Planet.Mars Rules all of Aries. This is because you take all Fire Signs into account in that order, i.e.
For instance, my Mercury is in Pisces. If I look up Pisces in the late degrees, I have Pluto decan. Correct? But Mercury is not a water planet. So that's what's throwing me off!
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Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 12:19 AM
It's the Signs that are in an Element.Planets Rule the Signs. There are three Water Signs, three Rulerships. I know, I get them crossed, too. If you think of a pizza and it is cut into twelve pieces; there are Four Elements, with three of each kind. Triangles, all. Planets are: Sun Moon Mercury Venus Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto Sun Rules Leo Moon Rules Cancer Mercury Rules Gemini/Virgo Venus Rules Taurus/Libra Mars Rules Aries (Once Scorpio) Jupiter Rules Sagittarius (Once Pisces) Saturn Rules Capricorn (Once Aquarius) Uranus Rules Aquarius Neptune Rules Pisces Pluto Rules Scorpio (Octaves are: Mercury/Uranus Venus/Neptune Mars/Pluto) IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 12:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: For instance, my Mercury is in Pisces. If I look up Pisces in the late degrees, I have Pluto decan. Correct? But Mercury is not a water planet. So that's what's throwing me off!
Sorry, yes. As Pisces is Ruled by Neptune, you think Neptune first. As it resides in the third Decanate, it is the Scorpio portion, so you take the two Rulerships and merge them. So, your Mercury is: Neptune-Pluto Decanate. Some would say: Neptune-Mars/Pluto. It's always in Pisces, but you can look deeper into the significance with this.
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8355 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 12:34 AM
Pluto-mars decanate probably adds some focus rather than being completely spacey with your logic. A pisces merc (pluto decan) with Mercury trine Pluto is really on point when it comes to logic. Nothing said was too fanciful and just spoke of things for what they really are even if it sounds grim. Still I guess does give a strong imagination and sort of whimsical charm when it comes to the speech pattern. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8355 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 12:47 AM
tongue and cheek but like covered in sparkles lol It could be that you can say really mean things but people sorta just laugh it off because it does not seem as icy and harsh if a cap virgo or scorp merc said it. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 12:58 AM
Thanks guys for helping me clear this up! I also have my Mercury in the 6th. So if we combine all this... I'm a Pisces-Virgo-Pluto communicator w/ a Mars edge. Wow, that's a lot LOL. But I like that. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8355 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:00 AM
lol what's your merc duad? and what's neptune doing? IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: tongue and cheek but like covered in sparkles lol It could be that you can say really mean things but people sorta just laugh it off because it does not seem as icy and harsh if a cap virgo or scorp merc said it.
This is sometimes true. It's fun when you can get away w/ murder. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: lol what's your merc duad? and what's neptune doing?
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:06 AM
@Kero - gimme a minute to look up the duads. I did it once before and totally don't remember! But here are all my Decans:
ASC - Uranus Sun - Jupiter Moon - Moon Venus - Mercury Mars - Saturn Mercury - Pluto Jupiter - Moon Saturn - Jupiter Neptune - Saturn Uranus - Sun Pluto - Pluto I think I did this right lol.
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:25 AM
OK! I've got my Duads down now: ASC - Aqua/Pisces duad Sun - Aqua duad Moon - Libra duad Mercury - Aqua duad Venus - Scorpio duad Mars - Aries duad Jupiter - Cancer duad Saturn - Pisces duad Uranus - Leo duad Neptune - Pisces duad Pluto - Cap duad
I'm shocked at all that Aqua in me! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8355 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:28 AM
damn ur airy. Idk do you think you feel the aqua?Lol my duads are in Libra. I'm like Air to the core LOL.. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 01:32 AM
I just went through mine, and EVERY single one Aspects that Planet.Every one. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: damn ur airy. Idk do you think you feel the aqua?Lol my duads are in Libra. I'm like Air to the core LOL..
You know what? This explains why I'm such a THINKER. I'm very in-tune w/ my emotions - strongly feel my Cancer Moon intuition. However! Intellect is EQUALLY important to me. I'm big on conversations - they're like journeys to me! I have a very independent mindset. I'm a great listener & diplomat but when I think about it...I can be quite provocative when I wanna be. Well all be dammed!! I'm an Air Void in signs. But in Houses/Duads it's totally made up for it seems! Kero, you are possibly the most Venusian person on earth, dude! After all your Gemini, of course.
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: I just went through mine, and EVERY single one Aspects that Planet.Every one.
To Uranus? Every single one? Wow. Fun stuff. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 01:53 AM
No, no.When it's a Venus Decanate, it Aspects Venus. This holds true for every single Planet. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: No, no.When it's a Venus Decanate, it Aspects Venus. This holds true for every single Planet.
Ohhh okay. So which decan/duad do you 'feel' the most in your chart? IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 02:00 AM
NO!!!!Have Mercy, I'm confused enough. Doesn't that change every two seconds or something? *holds head in hands and rocks slowly back and forth* IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 02:03 AM
On the Decanate, probably the Moon in the Saturn Decanate. It Trines Saturn, too.IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2014 02:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: NO!!!!Have Mercy, I'm confused enough. Doesn't that change every two seconds or something? *holds head in hands and rocks slowly back and forth*
Aww po' baby. You answered anyway - yay! IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 4002 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 23, 2014 02:12 AM
Yes, but at what cost...No, really, I never knew my duads. IP: Logged |