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NeptunianSag
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posted January 23, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a poor relationship with mine, very misunderstanding non supportive emotionally.

I'm thinking it's my Saturn in 4th never felt supported by my parents.

We also have moon-Pluto.

What other aspects?

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Ami Anne
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posted January 23, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other aspects are Moon conj Mars. Moon in hard aspect to Pluto would do it, as well. A conjunction would be considered a hard aspect in this case.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 23, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Moon conj the Asteroid Nemesis. Check this out because I see it a lot in women whose mother's had the feel of enemies.

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 23, 2014 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep what Ami said and more generally afflictions to the Moon and afflicted 4th house and 4th house ruler, or sometimes 10th house (if the mother was the "provider" for the family, the "boss").

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Venusian Moon
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posted January 23, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same thing with my mom. We go from watching a movie together to cursing eachother out.


Saturn, pluto, jupiter in the 4th house.


My moon aspects:


Moon SesquiQuadrate Saturn

Moon opposite Uranus

Moon sextile Asc

Moon conjunct Venus
Moon conjunct Mercury

Moon BiQuintile Pluto
Sun SemiSextile Moon

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IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 23, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IMoppedtheFloor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this thread title and IMMEDIATELY thought, "Watch, they're going to blame it on Moon-Pluto".

I'd say Moon-Mars before Moon-Pluto, both me and my sister have Moon-Pluto aspects (she, the trine; me, the conjunction) and "Mommy Issues" is something we just can't relate to. At all.

The weird part is, I stated this outright on another forum years ago, and had a woman, who didn't know me from a hole in the wall, insist that I was probably in denial about it.

I think sometimes people with the aspect who do have mother issues project onto those with the aspect that don't and I personally believe something else in their chart is causing the problems, not Moon-Pluto.

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posted January 23, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ It probably depends on the aspect?
The conjunction, while not necessarily beneficial, isn't like a square or an opposition. And the trine is completely out of the picture here. The conjunction makes me think of someone who may admire their mother... Is that the case with you? Maybe the mother is seen as a very strong woman who's inspiring in some way?

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meissieri
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posted January 23, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Ditto on Moon/Pluto harsh aspects. Nearly everyone I've met with these turned out to have a mother who was quite nasty. Especially the women. It's happened so often I may have something in my chart to attract them, though.

IC afflictions could lead to problems with the mother, too, especially through the way you were raised during your childhood.

Saturn/Cap 4th house, yeah, a cold upbringing.

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Odette
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posted January 23, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally agree with Moon/Mars - the conjunction and other hard aspects.
Moon/Saturn can also be difficult.
Moon/Pluto is not exactly the same. It's an intensely emotional aspect so the person is probably extremely attached to the mother (if the aspect is close).

:edit: ^^ I'm referring to aspects in the person's natal chart - not in the synastry with their mother.

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posted January 23, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My relationship with my mother was rocky when I was young, very hurtful and cold back then, thought we have improved a lot since then.

I have Scorp Saturn conjunct Sag IC, with IC ruler Jupiter forming a t-square with Mars and Pluto. Moon is conjunct Venus/Mercury/BML in the 8th house, trine Uranus in the 4th.

My synastry with my mother has her Saturn exact square mine and my IC, and conjunct my DC, and then she has Cap Moon which doesn't naturally get my Aries stellium. She also has her Jupiter on my Aries stellium, so when she learned to let go of control and expectations, and accepted things instead, our relationship improved a lot. Well my father's Saturn is square my stellium so it was also not nice lol.

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posted January 23, 2014 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an afflicted moon and a great relationship with my mom.

Moon opp Pluto.
Sun sq moon
Moon sq mercury
And minor afflictions too.
Semisq Venus
Sesquiquadrate Saturn and Uranus

Only positive aspect is moon trine Neptune.
And well moon sextile NN.

I just want to show moon opp Pluto doesn't always manifest in a bad relationship with the mother.

I know someone with moon in 12th whose mother abandoned her. But obviously it has to be more than the placement

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posted January 23, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister and I have bad relationships with our mother as well. In her chart I definitely think it's shown by her Moon square Pluto aspect. There's always been emotional/manipulative games so it does make sense. Whereas with me, it's been more of mind games and trying to lie about things, so I think the Mercury square Pluto aspect I have reflects that. Emotionally, she never got into my head as much as she did my sister, but I also have Moon conjunct Chiron, so maybe that explains why I didn't have a great emotional relationship with her. At one point she told me she never felt a bond with me, even when I was little, so maybe the star gods (lol whatever you want to call them) we're preparing me for a rocky relationship with her.

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posted January 23, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon in 8th house. I have always had a bad relationship with my mother. She is cold and emotionally distant and gossips. She should never have been a mother.

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posted January 23, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't get why i don't have problems with my mother if i have the classic aspects! she's like one of my best friends!

could synastry outweigh the natal indicators? i know we have venus conjunct venus by 1 degree

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posted January 23, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't get why i don't have problems with my mother if i have the classic aspects! she's like one of my best friends!

could synastry outweigh the natal indicators? i know we have venus conjunct venus by 1 degree

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posted January 24, 2014 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Challenging aspects to the Moon often indicate a tumultuous relationship with the mother.

And yes, Saturn in 4th can either mean the home is environment is where strict adherence to rules is a must or there isn't much affection.

Personally, I have Moon opposite Mercury, Moon square Mars.

But I also have Moon in 4th and so I think this kinda strengthens relations with the mother.

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posted January 24, 2014 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Challenging aspects to the Moon often indicate a tumultuous relationship with the mother.

And yes, Saturn in 4th can either mean the home is environment is where strict adherence to rules is a must or there isn't much affection.

Personally, I have Moon opposite Mercury, Moon square Mars.

But I also have Moon in 4th and so I think this kinda strengthens relations with the mother.

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posted January 24, 2014 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Pluto!!! Definitely. LOL. Both my mother and I have this in our natal charts. Neither of us have nasty mothers. We both just had problems understanding our mothers which caused lots of fiction. And neither of us got the mother we wanted.

My dad's mother on the other hand was a nasty piece of work. I've never looked at his chart. I should.

Anyway, we all handle our placements/aspects differently. I have "bad" aspects with Venus/Saturn and some planets in detriment and that I don't see it that way at all. They are positive to me. They made me who I am, blah, blah, blah.

So at the end of the day it's how we perceive, handle, face, learn, etc through them.

ETA: Reading sunflower-moon's post. My moon & Merc are conjunct to it also squares Pluto. Double the issues with my mom?! Yikes. I love her. But she drives me crazy and I'm happy to have an ocean between us. We have great phone conversations on the few occasions we have them. But I can't spend too much time with her.

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posted January 24, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IC ruler is afflicted. Turbulent and detached relationship with mom.

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posted January 24, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livictori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the description below was what I found about my moon in Leo in the 10th house w/Saturn. I ironically it doesn't specify good or bad. I was seriously abused by my mother (a Narcissist) and as the golden-child, I did not escape her hatred/jealousy. I'm about to quit my job 2/3 to start mentoring abused children so this was more than accurate

Moon in the Tenth House
Your mother will have a great influence upon your life, shaping your basic attitudes and your ideas of what values are significant and what is worth doing in life. She will also influence you to be very sensitive to your own and other people's feelings, and you may use this sensitivity in your career later in life. Because you understand how other people feel and how they react, you can be successful in any career that puts you before the public.
You may travel quite a bit in your profession.
You should be careful of your tendency to reflect other people's feelings, because it keeps you from being yourself.

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