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Topic: Which was worse Pluto transit 11 or 12 house?
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fauxcoat
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posted January 24, 2014 03:40 PM
  
I ask because I am hearing horror stories regarding pluto transit 12 but for me pluto transit 11 was so destructive that I am now worried about pluto transiting my 12. Pluto plowing through all my friendships made me feel so alone and left me without support when I really needed support in my life. It left me questioning everything and left me fearful of starting new friendships. Maybe that is why they say Pluto transit 12 is lonely. Anyway...what is your opinion after pluto having gone though both 11 and 12 house...which is worse? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted January 24, 2014 10:13 PM
I love Pluto transits! Because it gets rid of the things I didn't need and gives me a fresh start!Where these friends good friends or ones that weren't there for you the way you needed?
Were they users? If they were people that were helping you become your best, supporting you as you follow your heart, had your back and would fight for you...Pluto would not have pushed them out of your life! Now that your longing to have friends again you have the opportunity to find better ones...I bet you won't make the same mistakes about who you choose, the relationship taught you something and the way they left showed you their character....and it hurt but you needed to see it!
Next time your friends you choose will be better quality!
Pluto doesn't rip through your life to destroy you, it's like a friend that comes over to your house to help you go through your closet and they make you throw out all the stuff you had been hanging onto because you were afraid you wouldn't have enough, you had a really good experience in that outfit, it's soooo comfy even though it looks terrible, you've lost weight and it's way too big...but your worried you might gain it back!
Pluto says, no! We are getting rid of what doesn't work anymore to make room for new things that for with the new person your becoming not the old person you were! Pluto is your personal tough love program! Anything it takes from you is something that needs to be replaced because it wasn't serving you in a positive way any more! Pluto transiting your 12th will start cleaning out subconscious beliefs and patterns that are holding you back, yes you will be forced to see these! Things that you held dear will come into question.
example of things it might force you to ask yourself...why would allow those so called friends to treat me like that? And I stayed their friend? Why do I miss people when they only hurt me? Why didn't I stand up for myself?
It will cause you to see what you think of yourself and how what you value....then when you see it, yes it will hurt but in the end you will change so you stop hurting yourself! IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted January 25, 2014 12:32 AM
Thank you Gabby!Your explanation of Pluto moving through the houses is great and reassuring. I feel like when Pluto went through my 11th, it made me throw out all my clothes and now I am naked. It took out almost everyone. I guess I didn't have many good people in my life. What you describe will happen with pluto transit 12 is what I felt I went though during my pluto transit 11. During pluto t 11 I thought a lot. I felt lonely. I questioned everyone in my life and everything I was doing. I questioned my future and I questioned myself. The entire transit felt like I was a bullesye target and everyone was using me for bow and arrow practice. I was in constant emotional pain. Although this transit just started, I feel like I am about to go through a lot of changes. I feel my thought process has already changed but incidentally I feel more at peace - probably because I have pulled away from all the negative people in my life. Honestly it is as if pluto transit 11 was a tornado and I am now standing (naked) in an open field and I have to start from scratch. So I have to re-think everything. Where do I go? Who do I go with? Do I go alone? Who am I? What do I really want? Is some serious thinking all I am going to have to go through in this pluto transit? It seems much less harrowing than losing all my friends/family because they weren't good to me during my pluto t. 11. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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posted January 25, 2014 01:23 AM
I would say 12th was more challenging, however, it was a very rewarding experience in the end. Oddly enough, I was just contemplating about this transit- it ended for me in 2011. It cleaned up 'psychological' issues I had been suppressing for a long time, and although it really, really sucked to deal with them at first, was absolutely beneficial in the end. My Pluto in 1st transit has been a lot harder though. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted January 25, 2014 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
Thank you Gabby!Your explanation of Pluto moving through the houses is great and reassuring. I feel like when Pluto went through my 11th, it made me throw out all my clothes and now I am naked. It took out almost everyone. I guess I didn't have many good people in my life. What you describe will happen with pluto transit 12 is what I felt I went though during my pluto transit 11. During pluto t 11 I thought a lot. I felt lonely. I questioned everyone in my life and everything I was doing. I questioned my future and I questioned myself. The entire transit felt like I was a bullesye target and everyone was using me for bow and arrow practice. I was in constant emotional pain. Although this transit just started, I feel like I am about to go through a lot of changes. I feel my thought process has already changed but incidentally I feel more at peace - probably because I have pulled away from all the negative people in my life. Honestly it is as if pluto transit 11 was a tornado and I am now standing (naked) in an open field and I have to start from scratch. So I have to re-think everything. Where do I go? Who do I go with? Do I go alone? Who am I? What do I really want? Is some serious thinking all I am going to have to go through in this pluto transit? It seems much less harrowing than losing all my friends/family because they weren't good to me during my pluto t. 11.
It will be more than serious than just thinking, unfortunately!
Your going to experience things, things that expose your deepest darkest fears and weaknesses...you'll need to see them to change them. I'm sorry but it will hurt!
Right now your standing their vulnerable and naked...but that's where you must be in order to submit to Pluto and allow it to change you!
Pluto wants you to see the belief system you have in your head and heart that brought pain to you and will continue until you change!
By the time Pluto exits your 12th your going to know and expect your life and the people around you to be what you deserve....good for you, it makes you happy, not sad!
But to get there Pluto will have to allow you to put yourself in situations that hurt at the same time as it's forcing your mind open and making you start to question why your life is the way it is, not making you happy! Questions like, why the people around you the way they are to you? why is your life the way it is? why don't you treat yourself better? Things to that affect!
The reason it will be allowing these situations to happen is because as your mind is opening you need to feel how your beliefs make you feel...you need to see it's you that allows and attracts pain and it's only you that can change it!
It will make sure you are so tired of hurting that you will never again fall in the trap of allowing or bringing things that hurt you into your life!
Then once your through the 12th house...it will hit your AC just in time to boost you into changing how your seen....changing how you see the world and what you expect from life!
You will be ready to change based on your new belief system and start a life based on these, and shutting down all that was created based on your old beliefs! This is when Pluto will become your best friend....it won't let you forget we are in the process of changing life into one that is deserved, if you slip up yes you will feel it because Pluto will make sure of it, but it won't be as bad because you will catch yourself and quickly get back on the right path!
When it hits your AC, if you have truly learned what Pluto is wanting you to see....you will feel a power surge! A strength that will give you like a 'Phoenix rising' period of time!
If not....well, don't let the "if not"happen!
I sincerely believe that the curse of Pluto has very little to do with Pluto and a lot to do with people who refuse to allow themselves to heal, learn, grow and change! Pluto is about rejuvenation or growth....if you refuse to do that your refusing to live...our souls purpose is growth and if you don't grow you die!
I think this is how Pluto has the reputation of a planet to fear, they say as it transits your AC, death is near you or a new life is near you!
Yes Pluto transits are common when people die but it's not Pluto making that decision it's the person making the decision to stop life!
If your working with Pluto and allowing yourself to grow and change Pluto is the wind beneath your wings, (even though painful at times) if you refuse Pluto it is the open door to death but it's you who choses to walk through it or walk away from it!
Pluto is your friend, I can tell by way you express yourself, your not fighting it! Pluto transit won't destroy you because your open to growing, your willing to see yourself and change what needs to be changed! IP: Logged | |
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