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PlutoSurvivor
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posted January 28, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting conversations coming up about rulerships.

Most people think of ruling planets as "reigning over" signs, but rulership really refers to "measurement" as in one sign "measured by" a planet. So there is this whole connotation that only one planet, (or two at most) can be a perfect match for a sign.

[in analogy, This is like using inches and centimeters, you really have to understand the essence of each system for the numbers to make sense in a practical way when you switch between systems. Both systems give you an understanding of point 1 compared to point 2 but they are described or measured differently, using different pattern or type of measurement.
Example: If you grow up learning metric system and somebody tells you it's 32 degrees you are not going to feel a chill to the bones like you would if you were to relate this to the Fahrenheit system.]

So there needs to be some sort of astrological principle, or pattern, like an archetype, to measure the planets and signs to each other. When you understand the principles you understand the nature of the planets or signs.

The way the planets traditionally measure signs is by the mathematical distance of their calculated orbit around our sun in a circular path, in alignment with sacred geometry proportions. As new planets were discovered, joint rulerships came into play, but as far as science knows, there aren't enough new planets to give joint rulership mathematically to all the signs. [Pluto is technically not even a planet and when you look at its orbit, only common sense would show this - there is a youtube video by the scientist to debunked Pluto as a planet when he discovered the largest object beyond Pluto, Eris, and so he designates both as Kuiper Belt objects. But I'm not trying to argue Pluto here, as all orbiting objects are important in astrology.]

The point is, that all of our planets and signs have mates, based on their location in the sky and reigning (measuring) principles. This doesn't mean that signs cannot be influenced strongly by another planet or planetary body discovered in the future.

How do the rulerships actually work? If you are interested in coming up with your own idea, here is one theory to consider based on mathematics:

Mates=planets that share co-rulers and astrological principles

Leo-Cancer, Leo ruled by Sun, Cancer by Moon; individual principles at the core
Virgo-Gemini, Virgo ruled by mercury, Gemini by mathematically missing planet "Z"; social principles at the core (if and when planet Z is discovered we will have a more complete measurement of Gemini)
Libra-Taurus, Libra ruled by Venus, Taurus by mathematically missing planet "Y"; family principles at the core (if and when planet Y is discovered we will have a more complete measurement of Taurus)
Scorpio-Aries, Scorpio ruled by Mars, Aries by Pluto; also family principles at the core
Sagittarius-Pisces, Sag ruled by Jupiter, Pisces by Neptune; social principles at the core
Capricorn-Aquarius, Cap ruled by Saturn, Aquarius by Uranus; individual principles at the core

Just one idea to think about, but nothing is set in stone.

My own theory is that there exists a mix of many different astrological explanations and interpretations and when each system is used in context of its own measurement system it works the way it is intended.

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Kerosene
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posted January 28, 2014 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol it's just clear logic that Hermes is associated with with Gemini.
As the planet Mercury is the fastest moving planet in the solar system....

Mercury themes like communication and knowledge is clearly related to Gemini..
So yeah I don't understand.
good luck convincing others with that logic..

Take a scientific perspective.
If a system is not broken don't fix it..

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 29, 2014 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are termed rulerships are correlations of sympathy based on like energy

signature or vibration. If I could find my color triangle I'd illustrate it so that it

isn't abstract.

Instead, we'll go around the zodiac...

Aries = red = Mars, Pluto (vibrates to saturated red)
Taurus = cyan = Venus
Gemini = yellow = Mercury
Cancer = violet = Moon
Leo = orange = Sun
Virgo = yellow = Mercury
Libra = cyan = Venus
Scorpio = red = Mars, Pluto
Sagittarius = blue = Jupiter
Capricorn = green = Saturn, Uranus (saturated green)
Aquarius = green = Saturn/Uranus
Pisces = blue = Jupiter

Understand these are wavelengths -- light.

For the most part traditional rulerships were accurate. As you can see there are some exceptions.

Its all energy.

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SunMoonStars
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posted January 29, 2014 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is something also to be said about generations past, about the knowledge and wisdom gathered during thousands and thousands of years about astrology.

Sometimes people are arrogant and don't really recognize and appreciate that there is a huge source of experience behind astrological symbols rulerships being one of them. If someone doesn't get why Mercury rules Virgo, maybe there is something they don't yet understand about Virgo and Mercury - it isn't necessarily so that the rulership should be changed...

Sometimes there is a general concensus to adopt new ideas (such as in the case of Pluto for Scorpio and Neptune for Pisces), but those old rulerships are still valid too.

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Ellynlvx
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posted January 29, 2014 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

Instead, we'll go around the zodiac...





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PlutoSurvivor
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posted December 02, 2014 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

For the most part traditional rulerships were accurate. As you can see there are some exceptions.


The key to understanding fully is in examining the exceptions.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted December 02, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is worthwhile to challenge the status quo based on examining the exceptions.

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