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coolingembers Knowflake Posts: 446 From: California Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 12:48 AM
Are any of you closet horoscope junkies? Do you follow any one in particular?Do you go by your sun/moon/rising, or combinations of the three? IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:06 AM
As weird as this may sound, I don't believe in Horoscopes.I have never seen or felt any difference in transits - individually, or collectively as a whole either. Sorry if I started the thread off with a bad vibe IP: Logged |
coolingembers Knowflake Posts: 446 From: California Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:27 AM
Its fine . I asked.I haven't had very accurate experiences with them either! Although there is one or two horoscopes that have predicted some pretty big events. I only follow one horoscope app regularly. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by coolingembers: Its fine . I asked.I haven't had very accurate experiences with them either! Although there is one or two horoscopes that have predicted some pretty big events. I only follow one horoscope app regularly.
One reason why those two horoscopes could have been accurate is simply because of probability. Eventually, if you look at them everyday for a long period of time, it will come true, sometime. As far as looking at it sometimes and it's a true prediction, that's simply a matter of an inevitable coincidence. Well at least, this is what I think about Horoscopes. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:49 AM
But yeah, I would be quite interested to hear some extraordinary stories of specific predictions that came true for people IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 01:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: One reason why those two horoscopes could have been accurate is simply because of probability. Eventually, if you look at them everyday for a long period of time, it will be true.As far as looking at is sometimes and it's true, that's simply a matter of an inevitable coincidence.
I disagree. If it was all about coincidence and probability then same can be said about descriptions of placements and aspects. Keep reading them and you're bound to display that particular characteristic atleast once in a lifetime. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I disagree. If it was all about coincidence and probability then same can be said about descriptions of placements and aspects. Keep reading them and you're bound to display that particular characteristic atleast once in a lifetime.
What? You are kinda going off-topic. I believe in natal placements affecting us, but not transits affecting us. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 01:54 AM
I used to follow http://www.solarisastrology.co.uk/monthlyhoroscope.html 's horoscope. It is based on ascendant, was accurate for me.IP: Logged |
coolingembers Knowflake Posts: 446 From: California Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:55 AM
I follow one daily, and 7/10 it hits home. Its like astrology. There's a lot of factors that affect accuracy. Like what horoscope you read and what sign you go off of. I usually have to combine my ascendant/moon and then I notice the accuracy goes up. Most other horoscopes though? No. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: What? You are kinda going off-topic.I believe in natal placements affecting us, but not transits affecting us.
Our lives would have always been the same if transits and progressions did not affect us. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I used to follow http://www.solarisastrology.co.uk/monthlyhoroscope.html 's horoscope. It is based on ascendant, was accurate for me.
It was accurate, or is usually accurate? I'm not talking about simply if you're going to have a good day or not in general, but rather specific things.
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coolingembers Knowflake Posts: 446 From: California Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I used to follow http://www.solarisastrology.co.uk/monthlyhoroscope.html 's horoscope. It is based on ascendant, was accurate for me.
Definitely going to check this out (:
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 01:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: I'm not talking about simply if you're going to have a good day or not in general, but rather specific things.
Specific things like what? I doubt horoscope would be able to predict when I'm going to take a dump. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Our life would have always been the same if transits and progressions did not affect us.
Nah, I believe that's simply free-will. That is you acting upon your placements, learning and growing into a mature person. For the better, or for the worse. It has a lot to do with non-astrological reasons, like environment, upbringing, experiences, introduced to new cultures, etc. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 02:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: Nah, I believe that's simply free-will.That is you acting upon your placements, learning and growing into a mature person. For the better, or for the worse. It has a lot to do with non-astrological reasons, like environment, upbringing, experiences, introduced to new cultures, etc.
If position of planets and luminaries can affect us during our birth then they can definitely affect us throughout our lifetime. It's not like we would be immune to their effects later. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 02:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Specific things like what? I doubt horoscope would be able to predict when I'm going to take a dump.
If it's not specific, than I don't even need to look at the transiting planets and say whether you are going to have a good day or a bad day... or whether you feel more confident today or this week, etc. I can make it up. (I'm not saying Astrologers whom study transits in charts are making it up, just that transits are aren't affecting us) I will get the nail on the head eventually, and a lot of people will believe it is happening if they read it, though, even if it is not, they could be tricking themselves, sometimes because they perhaps might want to hear that they will be confident with love or career this week or day. You can disagree with me about transits, that's fine, but it's not like you're going to rewrite my experiences with them IP: Logged |
coolingembers Knowflake Posts: 446 From: California Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 02:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: If it's not specific, than I don't even need to look at the transiting planets and say whether you are going to have a good day or a bad day... or whether you feel more confident today or this week, etc.I will get the nail on the head eventually, and a lot of people will believe it is happening if they read it, though, even if it is not, they could be tricking themselves, sometimes because they perhaps might want to hear that they will be confident with love or career this week or day. I can make it up. (I'm not saying Astrologers whom study transits in charts are making it up, just that transits are aren't affecting) You can disagree with me about transits, that's fine, but it's not like you're going to rewrite my experiences with them
It's really ironic that you're arguing against the validity of transits like most people argue about the validity of astrology.
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FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 02:08 AM
I don't really look at it anymore but when I first got into astrology I liked the "Personal Daily Horoscope" on astro.com because it's not generalized based on an entire sign (not sure how those are even written up for planets considering everyone will have theirs at different degrees)It might not always be insanely accurate but it's still a fun read and gets really specific.. like it will give an interpretation for transiting Moon square your natal Jupiter on that day for example and says how long the transit lasts. Things fluctuate on a daily basis regardless of general patterns, upbringing, environment, etc. and I think sometimes transits can have some input. Just my opinion... IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 02:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by coolingembers: It's really ironic that you're arguing against the validity of transits like most people argue about the validity of astrology.
Yeah, lol. I know Astrology cannot be scientifically defined, but I know it is there. I see it in my observations within people's psychology and psyche. Just because I believe in Astrology, doesn't mean I have to believe every single aspect of it. People can add things along the lines to make it more interesting. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 02:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: I will get the nail on the head eventually, and a lot of people will believe it is happening if they read it, though, even if it is not, they could be tricking themselves, sometimes because they perhaps might want to hear that they will be confident with love or career this week or day.
LOL same can be said about astrology in general, but does that mean that astrology isn't accurate? Nope. Free-will ain't that "free" . IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 02:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: LOL same can be said about astrology in general, but does that mean that astrology isn't accurate? Nope.Free-will ain't that "free" .
You're right, it isn't that free. But it leads you into a certain direction, and (for Ex) not all significant Aries influenced people will quickly shoot that gun if they had the chance without thinking, or significant influenced Virgos will criticize their boss. (even if they wanted too) It is up them with what they do with their personality they were given. They can use it positively or negatively. This got quite off-topic, lol. But really, stop trying to push it on me, okay IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 02:33 AM
Horoscopes are predicted according to transits. I don’t feel like we’ve gone really off-topic. Transits are position of planets. Natal chart is also based on position of planets. If position of planets can affect us during birth, why can’t they affect us throughout our lifetime? State your reason.( I don’t wish to change your opinion about it, I just want to know the reason. ) IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 2894 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 03:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Horoscopes are predicted according to transits. I don’t feel like we’ve gone really off-topic. Transits are position of planets. Natal chart is also based on position of planets. If position of planets can affect us during birth, why can’t they affect us throughout our lifetime? State your reason.( I don’t wish to change your opinion about it, I just want to know the reason. )
Well, that's the big question, isn't it? Why doesn't Natal planets come into play while we're developing in the womb, or why not a week before we're born? But whatever reason why the Natal planets affect us only when we're born is because they're the natal planets and affect us, not the transits. As I see the natal planets come into play, (personality) but not transits. And that's my reason. My reason as to which it cannot be explained why we're only affected by the natal. But horoscope predictions being accurate can and can't, which is what I was saying earlier. As I can make my own phony horoscope website without using transits. And I will predict things which usually happen on the day to day basis. Talking about feeling depressed today, feeling active today, etc. Talking about romance not working out this month for a sign, because romance is a common thing in which people have problems will all the time. Sometimes it works out well, sometimes not. I will hit, and I will miss with my predictions. Just because astrologers use a certain method as to how they get their predictions, doesn't mean it will manifest itself as true in the real world. If it doesn't affect us, it doesn't affect us. As the same results happen with predictions, whether you use Astrology for them or make them up. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 03:52 AM
^ Hmmm that raised few other questions in my mind. You’re free now. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 06, 2014 03:52 AM
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