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posted February 08, 2014 03:09 PM            

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Pluto transiting 3rd square jupiter in the 12th, I feel like I can't survive. I feel as if life is crumbling down or there's just not much to it. I've not been feeling very Sagittarian for a while, I'm depressed, I don't know what makes me feel enthusiastic about life anymore... This has brought some pretty negative people too just to rub it in. I feel completely alone, not knowing where to direct my energy, because I am without a purpose.

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posted February 08, 2014 03:12 PM            

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I am sorry.

I never look at transits because I don't want to know lol

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posted February 08, 2014 03:31 PM            

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You Sagdes are such pu...

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posted February 08, 2014 03:47 PM            

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^ What a gross generalization, ts.

Neptunian,

You've been feeling bad for a while now, please stop looking at transits as a justification and get some help.

There's not much strangers on a board can do except for putting hearts and giving you virtual hugs, telling you things that will have 0 effect on you given your state of mind.

Life needn't be that bad, just know that.

It will get better if you choose to stop wallowing in self-pity and decide to take care of yourself and your mental health.
It can be hard to accept but we're the only ones in control of our well-being... It's time for you to take care of yourself and stop the self-defeating and negative thoughts.

Good luck.

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posted February 08, 2014 03:49 PM            

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NeptunianSag, I notice this happens on the weekend. I don't know what's going on in your life, just remember the weekend is only two little days of the week and try not to dwell on the negative. Distract yourself.
And don't talk with those people who "rub it in" that you are depressed. You need to cut them out of your life.

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posted February 08, 2014 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ What a gross generalization, ts.

Neptunian,

You've been feeling bad for a while now, please stop looking at transits as a justification and get some help.

There's not much strangers on a board can do except for putting hearts and giving you virtual hugs, telling you things that will have 0 effect on you given your state of mind.

Life needn't be that bad, just know that.

It will get better if you choose to stop wallowing in self-pity and decide to take care of yourself and your mental health.
It can be hard to accept but we're the only ones in control of our well-being... It's time for you to take care of yourself and stop the self-defeating and negative thoughts.

Good luck.

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Ok, but it's really hard, I have a Virgo moon inconjunct Saturn in the 4th, Saturn conjunct venus, sun square Venus, moon square sun. Retrograde mars in cancer opposite Neptune and Uranus. Wishy washy libra asc. It's very difficult to stop beating myself. I'm the most depressed sag in existence.

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posted February 08, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Find some happy fire sign suns to talk with

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posted February 08, 2014 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Find some happy fire sign suns to talk with

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I try to, I need to find a group of Leo's.

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posted February 08, 2014 04:27 PM            

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@Neptune - Try to read up on pluto transit 12th house. I have pluto transiting my 12th house right now as well, but so far it isn't as damaging as pluto transit 11th house was for me. The way you are describing how you feel now is how I felt with pluto transit 11 house.

I think with pluto transit 12 we are supposed to be more isolated to focus on all the problems that we have in life, think them through, and try to figure out ways to fix them. Perhaps with being a Sag and being used to lots of energy, around a lot of people, and having a jovial spirit, this is difficult for you to do...being quiet and alone with your thoughts. Try to make better use of your alone time, try to read more, try to write in a journal, maybe seek therapy to discuss some issues. I know this isn't what you want to hear and it wasn't for me as well. I do feel more isolated and in need of being alone than I did when Pluto was in my 11 (house of friends). Try to go out when you can, join events/organizations that allow you to show up when you want, spend time with people that are supportive. Distance yourself from the bad friends (if pluto transit 11 didn't get rid of them from your life, then maybe there is still a need for them but if they are treating you poorly, just keep a distance).

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posted February 08, 2014 04:28 PM            

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I try to, I need to find a group of Leo's.

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That's the ticket! LOL

I'm with Ami on this one. I don't pay attention to transits. I just wing it. Otherwise I may obsess over them and possibly change the course of life for things that may not actually matter.

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posted February 08, 2014 04:36 PM            

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I don't think it has anything to do with transits. you seem depressed most of the time.

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posted February 08, 2014 04:46 PM            

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I don't think it has anything to do with transits. you seem depressed most of the time.

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I was fine before this, I felt as though enthusiasm was returning then Pluto took my Jupiter :/

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posted February 08, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Awweee sending hugs. When i feel like that i search on youtube for meditation videos. The music and pictures are healing and beautiful.

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posted February 08, 2014 04:58 PM            

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You are depressed because you want to be. You can be happy if you want to be. It's all about changing of mindset.If there are negative people in your life, avoid them for the time being. Pick up some new hobbies - things that you enjoy doing, things that you love to do. It'll take your mind off negative thoughts.

Charts will only give you negative answers when you have negative thoughts. So it's best if you give astrology a rest.

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posted February 08, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Transits can affect your mood and more so if you place so much importance on them. This could also be a time of reexamining what is working in your life and what isn't (Mercury IS retro, best time for it) and making changes. It really is all about your thoughts and you can work on that but you might not be able to do it alone, you seem very low on energy.

Have you tried therapy? Google a specialist in your area, check his reviews and give him/her a call.

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posted February 09, 2014 06:27 AM            

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no transit is only good or only bad. it all depends on how you use the energies available.

it's one thing to feel. it's another to let it rule your life. you feel alone, that does not mean you are alone. you can choose to feel that way all your life, or you can choose to do something about it. you will always have crisis. there is no life without it.
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posted February 09, 2014 07:10 AM            

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For some people, it's not as easy as "it all just depends on you and changing your own mindset and everything will be fine". Personally I have a fairly easy life and I'm strong that I can lift myself up after being down (Aries stellium strength), but just coz I can doesn't mean that it's as easy for others. And each person has their own battles, and their own things to learn before they can also become strong.

With this said, it is fine to vent, we all have down moments, but if that state is prolonging for too long, maybe finding help would be a better option. Also, sometimes it can be a physiological issue that you might need to check your hormonal balance or the diet you have. Some people said that changing what they eat helped a lot on their long term deppression. Depression caused by physiological issues is hard to deal with, since people would feel down even when they don't have much issues in life to deal with. Anyone who doesn't know how hard it is can try to take some pills that causes hormonal imbalance. I know coz once I've tried the wrong pills and experienced emotional turbulence and depression for no reason (now I know what menopause can feel like lol).

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posted February 09, 2014 12:43 PM            

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Thanks making Cap influenced people look bad...totally unnecessary.

NeptunianSag, obviously I don't know you, but I hope you drop those people who are 'rubbing' it in because they are only hurting you- this seems to be part of the 3rd/12th house square test.

My sister is Sag and went through the same thing for a couple of years. Ultimately you can choose to be happy, its not easy, it takes work, but in the end you have to realize you are worth it! I think the recommendations the posters above me gave are excellent.

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posted February 09, 2014 12:47 PM            

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Hang on sweetie.

Jupiter in 12th is like having an angel on your shoulder. You are protected and you will make it through this challenge.

See if you can learn from this transit. Pluto like to chip away at decaying matter, so see what you need to get rid off. The 12th house is not so easily accessible to the conscious mind, so you might not know exactly, so I would suggest clean the outside, and the inside will follow. Go on a diet, do a fast, clean up your house, get rid of toxic people etc...You will be able to figure out what subsconscious thing you need to get rid of.

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posted February 10, 2014 04:46 PM            

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Hang on sweetie.

Jupiter in 12th is like having an angel on your shoulder. You are protected and you will make it through this challenge.

See if you can learn from this transit. Pluto like to chip away at decaying matter, so see what you need to get rid off. The 12th house is not so easily accessible to the conscious mind, so you might not know exactly, so I would suggest clean the outside, and the inside will follow. Go on a diet, do a fast, clean up your house, get rid of toxic people etc...You will be able to figure out what subsconscious thing you need to get rid of.

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Yes, my mind has been deep and generally philosophical than usual, I've had strange sleeping patterns and sleep paralysis a few times during this transit, isn't sleep supposed to be a 12th house thing? Generally sleeping a lot I am.

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