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Violets
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posted February 12, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the talk about Neptune and Saturn has made me aware that this is what's in store for me over the next few years, at approximately the same time.

T Neptune conjunct natal Sun
T Neptune opposite natal Moon
T Neptune square NN/Neptune

T Saturn conjunct natal NN/Neptune
T Saturn square natal Sun
T Saturn square natal Moon

T Jupiter opposite natal Jupiter

I'm like WTF? I don't know how anyone is supposed to stay sane during multiple transits like that, or not go completely bankrupt or something.

By the way, T Neptune will be going through my 8th house.

The Pluto and Uranus oppositions have been hard enough, really. I don't want to deal with anymore crap.

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posted February 12, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know how your feeling, outer planet transits are harsh, especially in difficult aspect. Neptune in 5th is squaring my mercury, Pluto transiting my third squaring Jupiter in 12th eugh, I feel like I don't know what reality is, I even questioned if I had schizophrenia the other day due to feeling so disconnected from the world and my own feelings.

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posted February 12, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, great. Just what I need. I've already had enough troubles from Neptune just in my natal. That guy can seriously eff off!

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posted February 12, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During Neptune transits I escape through movies, books, ect. I don't make any big plans because it's most likely I'm deluded, it feels like I'm drugged or something, aaaaah.

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posted February 12, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
During Neptune transits I escape through movies, books, ect. I don't make any big plans because it's most likely I'm deluded, it feels like I'm drugged or something, aaaaah.

That's probably a good idea.

At least my Sun is trine Saturn natally, maybe it will help keep me halfway in focus.
*sigh*

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posted February 12, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
That's probably a good idea.

At least my Sun is trine Saturn natally, maybe it will help keep me halfway in focus.
*sigh*


Also spirituality is a good way to focus the energies too watch for deception and unrealistic thinking.

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posted February 12, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Also spirituality is a good way to focus the energies too watch for deception and unrealistic thinking.

Yeah...it's going to be hard with the conjunction, the opposition, and the square all at the same time.

We've been trying to move, and get my husband out of his career (which he hates), but now I'm wary of making any decisions at all. These transits are annoying.

I mean, how many outer planets can a person get hit with all at once?
Pluto is still opposite my Saturn, and will be going back and forth over it while all the other transits are happening.

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posted February 12, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I have approx. the same chart as you have, I don't like what I'm reading at all.
I've been having such a hard time too with Pluto/Saturn for the past year.

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posted February 12, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dadoo:
Since I have approx. the same chart as you have, I don't like what I'm reading at all.
I've been having such a hard time too with Pluto/Saturn for the past year.

I know, right?!
I didn't know that we have such similar charts. Good to know I'm not alone, at least.

Yeah, the descriptions I'm reading of hard Neptune transits, especially with luminaries, sounds downright alarming.

My Pluto square Pluto transit was pretty okay, because it was trine my Moon and sextile my Sun at the same time, but the whole Pluto opposite Saturn, Uranus opposite Pluto, Neptune opposite Moon thing is starting to get under my skin at this point.

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posted February 12, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're using astrology the wrong way - by dabbling with negative thoughts about a fictional future. The future does not exist, yet - by thinking about it in negative terms - you're inviting negativity into your life.

Always remember the most basic and most important lesson one can learn from Psychology, Philosophy and Spiritually - if you're to keep a healthy mind:

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posted February 12, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Words of wisdom! It's best to let go of everything and live in the now. All you are is what you are at the present moment.

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posted February 12, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
I know, right?!
I didn't know that we have such similar charts. Good to know I'm not alone, at least.

Yeah, the descriptions I'm reading of hard Neptune transits, especially with luminaries, sounds downright alarming.

My Pluto square Pluto transit was pretty okay, because it was trine my Moon and sextile my Sun at the same time, but the whole Pluto opposite Saturn, Uranus opposite Pluto, Neptune opposite Moon thing is starting to get under my skin at this point.


I was born on the 24th, so my Moon is in Leo.

I had to leave the country I was in, I lost my career prospects and my partner... if Pluto was trying to teach something to my Saturn, I definitely got the message

Things started to get better during the summer when I decided to pay a visit to my hometown. It gave comfort to my Saturn in Cancer, I'm sure. I should have thought of that earlier.

I don't even want to think about what's coming...

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posted February 12, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
You're using astrology the wrong way - by dabbling with negative thoughts about a fictional future. The future does not exist, yet - by thinking about it in negative terms - you're inviting negativity into your life.

Always remember the most basic and most important lesson one can learn from Psychology, Philosophy and Spiritually - if you're to keep a healthy mind:


Words To Live By

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posted February 12, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh*

If my husband weren't going through a Uranus opposition Uranus transit right now, I would probably be totally okay with living in the present. But alas...domestic partnerships and whatnot.

I think I feel more inclined to keep my feet on the ground than he does at the moment, but with Neptune about 1 degree from opposing my Moon, everything feels very confusing. :/

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posted February 12, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dadoo:
I was born on the 24th, so my Moon is in Leo.

I had to leave the country I was in, I lost my career prospects and my partner... if Pluto was trying to teach something to my Saturn, I definitely got the message

Things started to get better during the summer when I decided to pay a visit to my hometown. It gave comfort to my Saturn in Cancer, I'm sure. I should have thought of that earlier.

I don't even want to think about what's coming...


Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that.

Pluto opposite Saturn is just making life hard in general (but not unbearable), and Neptune opposite my Moon is just making everything feel muddled and confusing.

So far, no major catastrophes. Knock on wood.

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posted February 12, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that.

Pluto opposite Saturn is just making life hard in general (but not unbearable), and Neptune opposite my Moon is just making everything feel muddled and confusing.

So far, no major catastrophes. Knock on wood.


Honestly, I think you're safe.
In my understanding of this transit, you get in trouble only in case you're immature, cause it's Saturn that's being "inspected" by Pluto. And if you've been slacking off, beware
Being a Mom and also judging from what you said on another thread about your Pluto/Venus opp, I have no doubt you are way wiser and more mature than I am.
This transit is the opportunity for people like me to "catch up". And how does the Universe make a human grow?
By putting her through trials of course.

So, you know. I have both a "I deserved it" mixed with a "let's outgrow this, let's turn it into something positive" attitude about it.
But I won't lie: the feeling isn't nice

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posted February 12, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, haha.

It's only just now started, now that I look at it. Pluto hadn't opposed my Saturn exact until this year, but it had squared my natal Pluto numerous times. That was actually a really good experience, but this...eh. Not so much.

Now for the Neptune transits in addition to Pluto, Uranus, and Saturn. Yeehaw.
*hides under a rock*

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posted February 12, 2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In other news, I finally got my husband to stop talking about quitting his job and moving to some random location and buying a business. Probably just not the ideal time for all that.

Now that's a relief right there in itself. My Moon feels better already.

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posted February 12, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violets, you have definitely got some hefty transit stuff to deal with, try not to panic it will all eventually change, its just the fear of where it will all lead. I definitely feel that when it gets really bad, then a change for the better is often within the next day or so, even if its only small, it seems to improve things a bit.

I've had T. Saturn conjunct natal SN/Neptune, in my 10th, plus have Pluto transiting my 12th, Neptune and Chiron transiting 2nd.

So can relate to some of what everyone is going through. The cardinal square between T. Pluto and T. Uranus has been f
difficult, but we also have the T-square of these two with T. Jupiter in Moon ruled Cancer, and in April will have Mars in Libra in a Grand Cross with these three - oh joy. See this for one blogger's view on it, http://comfychairastrology.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/transit-alert-april-22nd-2014.html

Someone might have already mentioned it on this forum. So April 20th is the main day of intensity and the Moon will go into Capricorn as well. Also in April there will also be some interplay between Venus conjunct Neptune and then Chiron in Pisces. More money/love problems.

I too have had that sensation Neptuniansag described, about feeling kind of disconnected. It feels sometimes like my mind is lost.

Imagery that would give the same feeling: I'm in a strange darkish forest, with twisted, gnarled trees looking on me gloomily. I'm standing on unswept flagstones near a stone fountain head that has a carved face of Pan. Then the wind comes up and I look around me in the grey/mauve darkishness and I notice the details of how the shrivelled old leaves brush across the unswept paving, and it is then that I become aware that I am being swept away to nothingness. I try to clasp at the scene but I can get no handholds and I am being pulled backwards into like a chasm of space and I have no idea where I had been and no idea where I will end up.

So yes, when I have these moments of being suspended in space and I am disconnected from the normal mechanations of living - I get a sense of fear, feel very alone, and feel like there are no handholds to catch the scene around me.

I've never experienced that type of feeling in reality before. The closest thing has been in dreams when I've felt like I am trying to get home but end up in further and further away and out of it places, taking the wrong roads, wrong buses and trains - feeling like I have lost my way and have miles to travel still, and its looking ever unlikely that I will make it back before dark. Also things start to feel hazardous like you are in a degree of danger or of being vulnerable.

It has to be the result of transits as I can stand back a bit from the sensation and recognise how it descends on me like strangeness, like I'm up the creek without a paddle, or even a boat for that matter.

Its like in that experience, I get stripped of anything that I thought I achieved, like a threatening feeling that my whole life could be brought to nothingness in a second and I could be adrift in some sea of misery and not being able to do anything, and not having a mind to function, and being aware of total humiliation at feeling like I have allowed to let myself fall through the cracks and be sort of bobbing around in some brackish water under the city or just off to the side of the city in polluted water.

And then it just goes away. Its like I have to acknowledge somewhere in myself that I'm really at the mercy of something - because I have no real control over my life.

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posted February 12, 2014 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis, thank you so much for your response.
I know what you mean about how when things feel the worst, then they sort of just get better the next day or so. I suppose that's because it hits exact and then moves on, or moves from retro to direct or vice versa, or something like that.

I think there are just too many oppositions happening right now for my comfort, really.

Uranus is about 2 degrees past opposing my Pluto, Pluto is opposing my Saturn by minutes (and has been for almost a month), and Neptune is opposing my Moon by about 1 degree right now.

Uranus is also opposing my husband's Uranus by less than 1 degree, so... Ugh. Too much tension with so many oppositions transiting through one household!

At least we get breaks in between when the planets transit away for a little while. A fresh breath, so to speak.

I've also been thinking of things that are calming and soothing that I can do for myself, and ways to keep myself grounded.

Thankfully, it's almost time for it to be warm enough to start working outside in the garden, so I think I'll be doing some of that very soon. It always helps to feel more connected with the Earth during rough transits like these.

Also, more daylight hours are always helpful.

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posted February 13, 2014 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In (more) other news, if you have young children (which I do), spending extra time with them and playing like you're a kid again is super therapeutic for the Neptune transits, I'm discovering.

Its the best "escape", truly.

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posted February 13, 2014 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine, over last few(??) years and over next few years:-

T Neptune square Pluto/NN
T Neptune conjunct Sun/Mercury/Venus/Saturn
T Neptune square Moon

T Saturn square Mars
T Saturn conjunct Pluto,NN,Jupiter,ASC
T Saturn square Sun/Mercury/Venus/Saturn/Moon

I feel like I'm being pulled on two opposite sides by Saturn and Neptune.

Saturn wants to keep me on the ground, Neptune wants to make me fly high in the Piscean sky .

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posted February 13, 2014 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Mine:-

T Neptune square Pluto/NN
T Neptune conjunct Sun/Mercury/Venus/Saturn

T Saturn square Mars
T Saturn conjunct Pluto,NN,Jupiter,ASC

I feel like I'm being pulled on two opposite sides by Saturn and Neptune.

Saturn wants to keep me on the ground, Neptune wants to make me fly high in the Piscean sky .


Hi, anonymi!
So there are a few of us going through multiple sh*t transits then, eh?

I remember our Suns are only a few degrees apart, but yeah...Saturn and all that. For me right now it's Uranus, Pluto, and now Neptune. I'm going to go hide in a cave like a hermit for the next ten years.

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posted February 13, 2014 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hii !!

Pluto transits were not that bad, it sextiled my stellium. It changed me though, yeah. Chiron was the worst one. It is still conjuncting my Venus atm. , whether it healed me or killed me, I’m not sure. Uranus transits took place ages ago, maybe 5-6 years. Craazy period, I enjoyed it, hah. Pluto,Uranus,Neptune,Saturn...yeah there’s some sort of pattern here.

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posted February 13, 2014 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi violets, yes grounding, earthy stuff like gardening and cooking are good. Also yes, spending time with children is good too.

Ugh the uranus opposition uranus was trying for me also - poor husband

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