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Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cap friend was telling me about this argument with his girlfriend..

They are not talking..

Keep in mind he is a really nice boyfriend...
In his defense she was being so irrational and,,, well stupid..

BUT BUT BUT he called her ******* ..
That bothers my mercury conjunct Venus because I may raise my voice and argue but I could never insult someone I loved... because they are being stupid for a reason..

and he knew that too but lost his temper and called her a stupid ******* .

I was like you need to apologize for insulting her... that's it.
Even when I broke up with the person I love I was soooooo mad but I could not throw insults..
I was just throwing... uhm stuff LOL..
Mars in aries square uranus LOL.

It's funny because I'll insult everyone else besides my family or lover...
Curious do a lot of people insult their lovers.. like call them names in arguments?

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birdy
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posted February 12, 2014 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your 3rd house?

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Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2014 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo..
Chiron is lurking lol.

but it's funny because I can otherwise say really hurtful things to people..
Enough to make them cry.

I made a grown man cry once LOL.

He really deserved it..

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Jo B
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posted February 12, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might call them some names behind their back (to myself) but I probably wouldn't to their face. I think when it ends up in name-calling it indicates to me a basic lack of respect in the relationship, and how could you possibly progress from there if perhaps you don't intend to break up with them.

Even if I did know I was breaking up with them for good I wouldn't insult them to their face. Maybe I've just been brought up nice!

I can understand why some people would say such things in the heat of the moment though.

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birdy
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posted February 12, 2014 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what?

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DeepFreeze
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posted February 12, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to say never but there's been only a handful of times in very extreme cases. It takes one hell of a lot and certainly not towards someone I'm in a relationship with.

Same here though. People that I don't really know are fair game. LOL I usually won't. Not vulgar name calling and all that.
My mercury is conjunct Mars, square moon, trine Jupiter

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mercuryflow
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posted February 12, 2014 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
never.
i will however point out when they are acting like an idiot, or an ******* , or whatever.
it's very different to say: "you're being a douche!" rather than " you are a douche!"

anyways, i think resorting to insults is because you don't have the ability to speak rationally, respectfully and intelligently. granted, there are situations where normally rational, respectful and intelligent people could have these qualities stripped of them. it happens. but there are a lot of people who have ridiculous fights all the time, launching insult after insult, and maybe a few punches and vases. feel sorry for the kids in those situations.

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DeepFreeze
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posted February 12, 2014 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuryflow:
never.
i will however point out when they are acting like an idiot, or an ******* , or whatever.
it's very different to say: "you're being a douche!" rather than " you are a douche!"

anyways, i think resorting to insults is because you don't have the ability to speak rationally, respectfully and intelligently. granted, there are situations where normally rational, respectful and intelligent people could have these qualities stripped of them. it happens. but there are a lot of people who have ridiculous fights all the time, launching insult after insult, and maybe a few punches and vases. feel sorry for the kids in those situations.


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summerlite
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posted February 12, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is throwing stuff better? lol

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FireMoon
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posted February 12, 2014 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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summerlite
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posted February 12, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously, you live in denial if you make claims that you never insult, yet I see you doing in all over the forums.

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DeepFreeze
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posted February 12, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edited out

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Chiemi
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posted February 12, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can honestly say that I never do especially if I care and had any kind of relationship with the person. I have a Libra Mercury.


If I have a disagreement with someone I keep the topic solely on the disagreement, I find it distasteful and just wrong to resort to name calling in order to basically belittle them. I know that personally when that happened to me in the past, I would internalize it afterwards and wonder if what they said was really how they felt about me (you know how like they say how people tell you how they really feel about a person when they're drunk or really mad?) and it sucks especially if it came from someone you love. So yeah, I just don't do it.


Like for example, I never get when couples break up or something and one person decides to end it ad the other butt hurt person is all like "I NEVER LOVED YOU AND YOUR ____ ____ ANYWAY" or whatever irrelevant insult. Or when someone gets rejected and they say something like "That's why I tall girls better anyways"... like really? Lol I don't get people like that.

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Jessica2407
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posted February 13, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
My cap friend was telling me about this argument with his girlfriend..

They are not talking..

Keep in mind he is a really nice boyfriend...
In his defense she was being so irrational and,,, well stupid..

BUT BUT BUT he called her ******* ..
That bothers my mercury conjunct Venus because I may raise my voice and argue but I could never insult someone I loved... because they are being stupid for a reason..

and he knew that too but lost his temper and called her a stupid ******* .

I was like you need to apologize for insulting her... that's it.
Even when I broke up with the person I love I was soooooo mad but I could not throw insults..
I was just throwing... uhm stuff LOL..
Mars in aries square uranus LOL.

It's funny because I'll insult everyone else besides my family or lover...
Curious do a lot of people insult their lovers.. like call them names in arguments?


heyyyyy I was thinking about this the other day!!

I'm TOTALLY like this too! I have venus conjunct mercury exact.

I can raise my voice to the point of shouting at the person, really wild,but I can NEVER insult the person. NEVER. I can't even write insults down on an email! wow, I never associated it with my merc-venus conjunction! even though I have merc-uranus sq,merc-mars semisextile,mer-pluto sextile, I simply can't insult someone I love,but I will say things that can be very hurting but I won't hurl insults.

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charlie
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posted February 13, 2014 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Merc conj Venus (and sun and saturn) and I would never call my bf a derogatory name!! If someone does it to me it will be the beginning of the end. Last time it happened (posted about it on Sweet Pea) I was called a racist, which quite frankly made me so sad, and after that I just couldnīt go back to liking him eventhough he apologized 3 days later. I think there are more rational ways of making ones point come across..

My mom likes to call my dad every single bad name and word in the book. All x-rated. And I feel nothing but petty and contempt for her doing so.

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AriesLilith
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posted February 13, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury conjunct Venus and Moon in Aries, these are trine Uranus, and Pluto in Scorpio in the 3rd forming a t-square with Taurus Mars in the 9th and Aqua Jupiter in the 6th, and Scorp Saturn in the 3rd house too square Virgo AC and conjunct IC.

I avoid name callings most of the time, they are just not my thing... When I have lost patience with resentment built up for some time over something, I might have called my husband idiot or stupid, or a critical comment over something, but nothing really extreme. I remember once, out of anger, when he was sleeping and left me in the hurt, I've called him something really hurtful and he didn't hear that... I regretted it a lot and told him and apologized to him after.

I feel that name calling or more extreme expressions leaves marks and a part of me gets hurt too. If I'm really irritated and not allowed to get distance to cool down, I would say things like "f*ck off!" but I try to avoid crossing the line, as I feel that doing so destroys something important, it kills the feelings of togetherness and bond.

So no, for me calling someone extreme names like b*tch, wh*re or something similar during fights spells lack of self control and concern for the other, specially if the person doesn't really feel guilty about it.

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