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NeptunianSag
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posted February 17, 2014 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn conjunct Venus both planets are in my 4th moon in Virgo inconjunct Saturn. Well, all I can say is I hate my home town, I hate everything about it, to the people, to the attitudes. I've been discriminated against, never made to feel welcome anywhere. Although I cannot blame everyone for my problems and feelings, I generally feel I am not wanted on this earth. My parents have always been overbearing and controlling and I've developed low self worth and dependency issues in all my relationships. My parents wanted me to be something I am not, I.e getting a job I do not enjoy that would make me feel like a robot and not human. I hate this place, to the weather, people, even my town looks like a dump ugliest place ever. What's worse is I have Chiron in the 10th and an afflicted mars in cancer there, so I cannot be doing trying to fit in with society, I am done, not wanted. Although I'm trying to spend my time doing spiritual things such as art and trying to turn it into a career seeing as I feel I don't fit in with everyone else.

Is your 4th house afflicted, how do you feel?

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Violets
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posted February 17, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus conjunct my IC, and square Mars.

I felt exactly the way that you're describing about the town I grew up in while I was there, and I still feel that way about my hometown.

I had a very unpleasant relationship with my mom and step-dad until I was old enough to seriously be independent of them, and live in a different city a couple hundred miles away.

I hope it improves for you in the long run.

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NeptunianSag
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posted February 17, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have Uranus conjunct my IC, and square Mars.

I felt exactly the way that you're describing about the town I grew up in while I was there, and I still feel that way about my hometown.

I had a very unpleasant relationship with my mom and step-dad until I was old enough to seriously be independent of them, and live in a different city a couple hundred miles away.

I hope it improves for you in the long run.


Thank you, I'm planning on immigrating for the future, even if it means going alone. My Jupiter is in the 12th so I guess I find being alone sometimes peaceful. Plus Pluto is currently transiting my 12th, I feel like I've withdrawn from society as a whole while I fix my feelings and philosophy.

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Violets
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posted February 17, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, don't be afraid to go it alone.

When I left my hometown, I had less than $100 to my name, and I went and stayed in the living room of some girl's apartment I vaguely knew, got a job waiting tables, and had some somewhat scary but interesting adventures before really coming into my own place of belonging.

We all have journeys, and I wish you well!

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geminigal2805
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posted February 17, 2014 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn sits right on my Libra IC. Vertex conjuncts IC by 1 degree. A very detached lonely childhood but things looked pleasant to the outside world.
Pluto is also in the fourth house loosely conjuncts saturn, IC n vertex.


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geminigal2805
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posted February 17, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptunianSag don't worry. Things will definitely get better. Tell yourself 'I will make things better'.Stay positive. Dont let the world/surroundings make u feel down. FIGHT BACK. all the best.

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geminigal2805
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posted February 17, 2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violets wow! I know how tough it must have been.I left my home town with out even a change of clothes n no money.luckily my friend helped me a bit. Without that help I don't know what would have happened to me then. I stayed alone , supported myself thro college n stayed away from family for many years. I was soo angry with my family for some personal reasons.


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anonymidarkness
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posted February 17, 2014 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is badly afflicted as well. I have 5 planets in 4th, of which 4 are afflicted. I feel indifferent towards my hometown and parents. I’ve never felt like I need anybody else’s approval, so I just don’t care about how they treat me, what they want me to do, etcetera, etcetera . I’ve never tried to fit in. If I fit in , fine, if I don’t , that too is fine with me. I do feel like a foreigner on earth, so I don’t think changing places or anything like that would help much, because the problem lies within me. My root chakra is blocked, I think 4th/10th axis is related with it. I have an afflicted Chiron in 10th as well. I can’t relate to it’s description though, I can relate to the description of Chiron in 11th house.

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hodad
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posted February 17, 2014 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hodad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 4th house is no picnic.It is probably the worst place for it.The last house you want afflicted is the 4th.There is always some kind of restriction/sorrow/burden/unhappiness/loneliness/loss etc.in the home,overshadowing your whole childhood.It certainly does not signify a happy childhood.When having some other planets there,like Mars,Uranus,and/or Pluto there could be uncomfortable in their own way,having Saturn there is just especially harsh because there is just a kind of serious,somber,melancholic tone to your entire home life.Just a kind of emptiness and sadness.Saturn seems to rule depression and a kind of harshness,and that is not what you want in your home life.
It's like the circumstances surrounding you,whatever they are,force you to grow up too fast.A carefree sort of feeling that most kids have is lacking.
Maybe you were a latchkey kid,maybe you lost a parent,just many sad things happened in your home.It really creates an aura of restriction,a burdened feeling.
I have Saturn in Capricorn retro in the 4th and it has overshadowed the sunnier,happier sides of my chart and life.
My mother died when I was young,other siblings then left home,I was basically there alone,with my Dad,who did not like to spend much time there.It was mainly a feeling of loneliness---other kids would go home to a full house,that was not the case for me.I suppose that's why a lot of people with Saturn in the 4th want to leave home,because home is not a happy place.

There are positive sides to it of course,it can make you really disciplined and able to take on a lot of responsibilities,and there are lots of well-adjusted people that have it but it didn't really work out that way for me til years later---


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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted February 17, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Saturn conjunct Venus both planets are in my 4th moon in Virgo inconjunct Saturn. Well, all I can say is I hate my home town, I hate everything about it, to the people, to the attitudes. I've been discriminated against, never made to feel welcome anywhere. Although I cannot blame everyone for my problems and feelings, I generally feel I am not wanted on this earth. My parents have always been overbearing and controlling and I've developed low self worth and dependency issues in all my relationships. My parents wanted me to be something I am not, I.e getting a job I do not enjoy that would make me feel like a robot and not human. I hate this place, to the weather, people, even my town looks like a dump ugliest place ever. What's worse is I have Chiron in the 10th and an afflicted mars in cancer there, so I cannot be doing trying to fit in with society, I am done, not wanted. Although I'm trying to spend my time doing spiritual things such as art and trying to turn it into a career seeing as I feel I don't fit in with everyone else.

Is your 4th house afflicted, how do you feel?


Haha I have Capricorn on the cusp of the fourth house and I absolutely loathe the town I grew up in with a passion. The ruler is afflicted in house eight.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted February 17, 2014 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Saturn conjunct Venus both planets are in my 4th moon in Virgo inconjunct Saturn. Well, all I can say is I hate my home town, I hate everything about it, to the people, to the attitudes. I've been discriminated against, never made to feel welcome anywhere. Although I cannot blame everyone for my problems and feelings, I generally feel I am not wanted on this earth. My parents have always been overbearing and controlling and I've developed low self worth and dependency issues in all my relationships. My parents wanted me to be something I am not, I.e getting a job I do not enjoy that would make me feel like a robot and not human. I hate this place, to the weather, people, even my town looks like a dump ugliest place ever. What's worse is I have Chiron in the 10th and an afflicted mars in cancer there, so I cannot be doing trying to fit in with society, I am done, not wanted. Although I'm trying to spend my time doing spiritual things such as art and trying to turn it into a career seeing as I feel I don't fit in with everyone else.

Is your 4th house afflicted, how do you feel?


Haha I have Capricorn on the cusp of the fourth house and I absolutely loathe the town I grew up in with a passion. The ruler is afflicted in house eight.

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