posted February 17, 2014 07:31 PM              

It's difficult for us too.
Something that happens is building a love relationship in our minds that doesn't ACTUALLY exist.
As a virgo venus.. I would give and give and give. Eventually it would not be appreciated or even it would be taken advantage of. Then, a cold, even cruel man comes out. Feeling betrayed (rightly or wrongly so).

After coming to this site and recognizing it. I focused hard on it to make sure that I stayed within reality.
It's not bad if the native knows of it, what it does, and how to stop it. It's been the single most difficult aspect to deal with as a natal aspect that can affect others.

posted February 17, 2014 07:34 PM              

I guess I should know as I have this aspect myself, although it's also T-squared with Moon (all in fixed signs). I live in a fantasy world sometimes and often the reality doesn't live up to how I imagined it would be. And when I feel a relationship is over I completely switch off the romance/affection, which sounds harsh I know.

posted February 17, 2014 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Experiences with these men?

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posted February 17, 2014 07:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Jo B:
Neptune has dreamy/lofty spiritual qualities so when hard aspected with Venus (love) it may mean that person has an idealistic view of love (often essentially deceiving themselves), and are more likely to express affections without genuinely meaning it, or they THINK they mean it at the time then they later realise otherwise.

I guess I should know as I have this aspect myself, although it's also T-squared with Moon (all in fixed signs). I live in a fantasy world sometimes and often the reality doesn't live up to how I imagined it would be.

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posted February 17, 2014 07:45 PM              

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Perfectly said.

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Thanks DeepFreeze, I think we posted at the same time and you more or less said the same thing.

posted February 17, 2014 07:53 PM              

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
The weird thing is that with this aspect you'd think he'd have high standards.Especially since it's a virgo venus and he writes all these poems about love.He just doesn't,he goes after really immature women/girls.It's like he sets himself up for failure.Is that another bad side to this aspect? Or maybe he really does find those girls attractive.Idk.

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posted February 17, 2014 07:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
The weird thing is that with this aspect you'd think he'd have high standards.Especially since it's a virgo venus and he writes all these poems about love.He just doesn't,he goes after really immature women/girls.It's like he sets himself up for failure.Is that another bad side to this aspect? Or maybe he really does find those girls attractive.Idk.

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Just because he's going for those girls doesn't necessarily means it's because he's looking for this idealistic, perfect love with them. Men often put women in the "dream girl" or "good time girl" category - but since your friend has Neptune/Venus squared he might be having trouble working out which is which!

posted February 18, 2014 06:45 AM            

men with this aspect have a madonna/ ***** complex , they want the bad girl and crave the innocent one too, hence the confusion once they get involved and find out she is not both ! ;-)

This is from some of my friends experiences!

posted January 26, 2023 02:06 AM            

So these guys will not go for high-esteemed women.

Like all men, they will weigh their odds of sexual success.

posted January 26, 2023 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Venus square Neptune would reflect low self esteem.

So these guys will not go for high-esteemed women.

Like all men, they will weigh their odds of sexual success.

These men then, will go for low hanging fruit because in their estimate, the odds are higher for them to achieve sexual conquer.

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posted January 26, 2023 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
The weird thing is that with this aspect you'd think he'd have high standards.Especially since it's a virgo venus and he writes all these poems about love.He just doesn't,he goes after really immature women/girls.It's like he sets himself up for failure.Is that another bad side to this aspect? Or maybe he really does find those girls attractive.Idk.

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posted January 26, 2023 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Jo B:
Just because he's going for those girls doesn't necessarily means it's because he's looking for this idealistic, perfect love with them. Men often put women in the "dream girl" or "good time girl" category - but since your friend has Neptune/Venus squared he might be having trouble working out which is which!

Just a thought!

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Sometimes, you start to see the other side of the distorted mirror when the dream becomes a villain. Maybe, not by choice, but by consequences and coincidences.

posted January 27, 2023 02:34 AM            

From a primitive level,Nep doesn't desire boundaries,definitions or rigid conventions.And going for commitment in any way it is presented,the above mentioned apply i.e.boundaries,borders, rigid definitions and structures etc. That is antithetical to Neptune.

So yes,the subconscious attraction to people who are psychologically complex, those who show no promise of fidelity or who are not about to make or keep any promises, is likely. Because if someone is inconsistent, they are likely to break your heart. On a base level, Nep desires to be free. And that's what is at the heart of this.

Like Ura-Venus, long distance love can appeal or dating someone who is from a foreign country etc. Why? Because the lover will always lack that clarity for them or be mysterious. Thus difficult to define.

The more mysterious you are or hard to explain. The more appealing you get to Venus-Neptune people. And i would also add that if you find yourself besotted by one with this aspect, it's likely because they appear that way to you i.e "have an enigma" or "mysterious" etc.

Whether attracting Ven-Nep or having Ven-Nep, on an unconscious level you may have little to no desire for a committed arrangement or attachment. There is freedom here emphasized overall and an unrelenting desire to not be "confined". Not even by love.

posted January 29, 2023 01:23 AM            

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Godlike the man who
 sits at her side, who
 watches and catches
 that laughter
 which (softly) tears me 
to tatters: nothing is 
left of me, each time 
I see her…

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posted February 02, 2023 06:29 AM            

Don't be deceived: Neptune (Jupiter too) is still quite strategic.

Neptune moves invisibly, and sideways toward its goal, or attracting its goal.

With Venus, Neptune creates a fog of confusion and/or romanticism to capture it's desire. The square: a fog of inebriating venom.

And yes, usually not for a long-term commitment.

Smart and strong girls will sh1ttest guys for longevity..

The broken, uninformed, vulnerable ones won't know any better - they are a good match then. They won't be too much trouble either, when they are ghosted after.