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Topic: Applying or separating aspects - how to know?
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moonstruck87
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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posted February 19, 2014 04:17 PM
  
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Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
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posted February 19, 2014 04:22 PM
Of course, I can help.E-mail me, and I will send you a chart. On the Aspect Grid, they will have either an a or an s to specify. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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posted February 19, 2014 04:47 PM
Thank you ! What is your email?IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 04:49 PM
It's up at the top of the Forum Page, Astrology for Beginners, or Brown Owl.Just right-click my username and copy. IP: Logged |
wonderingwoman
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From: New York
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posted February 19, 2014 06:27 PM
I have always wondered about this same question. How do you know when planets are going to apply for aspect and when they are seperating etc. Can I email you too Ellynlvx?IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted February 19, 2014 06:27 PM
Post the planets and their degrees.Generally you would look at the faster moving planet to tell. However if one is retrograde things may become tricky. Applying & Separating terminology applies to transits, progressions, and Solar Arcs. IP: Logged |
wonderingwoman
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posted February 19, 2014 06:36 PM
^^ I have seen this terminology alot whenever I see horary charts. I never have the foggiest idea how to interpret applying or separating aspects. This is part of the reason why horary charts are still an enigma to me.sigh...IP: Logged |
moonstruck87
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posted February 19, 2014 07:06 PM
Just when I get one part of astrology down I realize I am clueless about the next hahaIP: Logged |
Nine
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posted February 19, 2014 07:14 PM
moonstruck87, did you have a particular aspect in mind, or was this just a general question?IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted February 19, 2014 07:23 PM
This is how I've always taken it....just by assumption, so I could be wrong!It depends on the speed of the planet or asteroid and if it's retrograde or direct...
The faster moving planet, like say transit Mars is 3 degrees behind transit Neptune transit Mars is moving faster than Neptune, so it's like mars is running up behind Neptune or applying to transit Neptune
Once Mars is exact on Neptune....it then starts moving off Neptune and then past it...this would be Mars separating, or running away from Neptune. If Mars then went retrograde, it would again start moving towards Neptune....it would be applying again until it caught up with Neptune and moved past Neptune again...still in reverse it would be moving away from Neptune so it's separating again. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
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posted February 19, 2014 07:27 PM
It's like the coyote, he's gonna catch that road-runner.Unless of course an acme ball knocks him backwards. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by wonderingwoman:
I have always wondered about this same question. How do you know when planets are going to apply for aspect and when they are seperating etc. Can I email you too Ellynlvx?
Sure. Send birth information though. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted February 19, 2014 07:30 PM
Example.Venus 27 Taurus, Mars 18 Taurus. First you want to identify the faster moving planet. In this case that would be Venus. Thus, Venus is in a separating conjunction to Mars. Separating because at 27 degrees she is past the 18 degree mark and moving away. All signs run from 0 to 29 degrees. OTOH, if we had Venus @ 18 Taurus, Mars @ 27 Taurus; then Venus would be applying to conjunct Mars. Applying because @ 18 degrees Venus is moving towards the 27 degree mark. It is said that Applying aspects are stronger and felt most intensely. Separating aspects is something of a spent force. Note: In a third scenario had Venus been at 27 degrees but retrograde (moving backward), and Mars @ 18, Venus would be considered applying to conjunct. Applying, because although she is past the 18 degree mark, the retrograde motion means she is moving back in the direction she came from. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Applying & Separating terminology applies to transits, progressions, and Solar Arcs.
Also to Natals.
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Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
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posted February 19, 2014 07:47 PM
Received both e-mails, and have returned one to you MoonStruck.WonderingWoman, you need to send birth information before I can look it up. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 08:44 PM
You see, it also has the Parallels and ContraParallels?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2014 09:04 PM
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wonderingwoman
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From: New York
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 19, 2014 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Received both e-mails, and have returned one to you MoonStruck.WonderingWoman, you need to send birth information before I can look it up.
I just did thanks  IP: Logged |
wonderingwoman
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From: New York
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posted February 19, 2014 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Example.Venus 27 Taurus, Mars 18 Taurus. First you want to identify the faster moving planet. In this case that would be Venus. Thus, Venus is in a separating conjunction to Mars. Separating because at 27 degrees she is past the 18 degree mark and moving away. All signs run from 0 to 29 degrees. OTOH, if we had Venus @ 18 Taurus, Mars @ 27 Taurus; then Venus would be applying to conjunct Mars. Applying because @ 18 degrees Venus is moving towards the 27 degree mark. It is said that Applying aspects are stronger and felt most intensely. Separating aspects is something of a spent force. Note: In a third scenario had Venus been at 27 degrees but retrograde (moving backward), and Mars @ 18, Venus would be considered applying to conjunct. Applying, because although she is past the 18 degree mark, the retrograde motion means she is moving back in the direction she came from.
Thanks for explaining it the way you did with the examples and all. I think I finally got it.  All I have to do now is look up the speed of the planets. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87
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From: Indianapolis, IN
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 19, 2014 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
moonstruck87, did you have a particular aspect in mind, or was this just a general question?
General. I want to know when looking at any chart. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87
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From: Indianapolis, IN
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 19, 2014 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Received both e-mails, and have returned one to you MoonStruck.WonderingWoman, you need to send birth information before I can look it up.
Much appreciated! Thank you as always for your help!! Xo IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 20, 2014 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by wonderingwoman:
I just did thanks
I've just sent it to you. Noontime setting. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
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posted February 20, 2014 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by wonderingwoman:
Thanks for explaining it the way you did with the examples and all. I think I finally got it. All I have to do now is look up the speed of the planets.
Moon first, around the Earth in a month.  Everything else revolves around the Sun. Mercury first, so it will catch up and pass the others; this is applying, Conjunct, separating. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
Uranus, Neptune, Pluto; is the order from the centre outward. Concentric circles, all. The closest ones have a smaller racetrack, so they will come to the other ones. They are strongest when they are closing in, once they pass the draught, they lose force.
Quickly. This is also important in Progressions, if it is applying at birth, every year it gets closer and closer. I can notice a Transit once it hits, it eases up almost immediately after Conjunction. Just like a Full Moon, it is most powerful just before the Opposition, it loses force almost immediately.
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Ellynlvx
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posted February 20, 2014 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Much appreciated! Thank you as always for your help!! Xo
You're Welcome, MoonStruck. IP: Logged |
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