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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone! I am new here. I have a lot to learn about astro and the site itself. Heck, I can't even figure out how to search old posts. Any tips?

I am here to find out about the guy who I think is the One. He is a Mars in Aries, Venus in Scorpio. I am also Venus in Scorpio, so we are very attracted to each other, and he can handle my intensity KINDA well. His Mars in Aries doesn't like this aspect of me, I think.

I realized that his Mars in Aries needs me to be more of a conquest, less available and to call him out on his neglect. He was getting bored of my accessibility! He was taking me for granted. I broke it off, and he LOVED that. I think the venus in scorpio part of him liked to suffer for his love of me, and the mars and aries liked how I asserted myself, made a boundary and said he was not doing well enough to keep me and I will see other men. Mars in aries like a bit of competition, right?

I don't understand how to do squares and trines and stuff yet. I have no idea how to do synastry. I need to figure out if this is even worth my time, to be with this guy. I think it is, but it might just be hot love affair, but not the real deal.

He is:
Rising Sign---24 Degree Aquarius
Sun is in 08 Degrees Sagittarius.
Moon is either Leo or Virgo. (I suspect Leo?)
Mercury is in 08 Degrees Sagittarius.
Venus is in 08 Degrees Scorpio.
Mars is in 06 Degrees Aries.
Jupiter is in 00 Degrees Gemini.
Saturn is in 01 Degrees Capricorn.
N. Node is in 09 Degrees Pisces.

Please help! This is closest I have ever been to finding the person of my dreams. I can't mess this up! I have already done a poor job of it, but fate seems to be on my side...for now. I don't want to scare him off with my intensity. If I know more about him, maybe I can calmly keep my cards to chest and relax!

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it helps, I am:

Leo Rising
Virgo Sun
Lunar Gemini
Mercury Libra
Venus in Scorp
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
N. Node is in 00 Degrees Leo.

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Mars in Leo, Venus in
Scorpio. I'm like a
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LucieLemonade
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posted February 22, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by butterflymama:
[B]Hey everyone! I am new here. I have a lot to learn about astro and the site itself. Heck, I can't even figure out how to search old posts. Any tips?

To search old posts, go to the beginning of the forum where it lists all the various sub-forums. Then under the L-G logo you will see this sentence "Click Here To View Today's Active Topics (all public forums)". Click on that and you will find the search.


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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"Sorry, the search function is not activated at this time."

That is the error I get when I follow your directions. Is it just me?

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posted February 22, 2014 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dreamboat probably has more water placements like cancer-pisces.
I would never describe sag as a dreamy like figure

I'd just say hottie maybe..
Creepy lol maybe with those placements.
more like a douche perhaps?

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kerosene, you nailed it. Very Douchey! Yes! LOL! Super macho and douchey. Very, very cocky.

I just did our synastry online using a tool, and it said something appalling.

"The dual cosmodyne TOTAL score between butterflymama and chris is -33.16.

Negative scores show discord between two people, which is undesired.

An average HARMONY score is about +10.

Uhhh, this may be going no where quickly.

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I spoke too soon? I am finding some good things:

Trine colleen Sun / chris Jupiter - 02°60'

Trine chris Sun / colleen Mars - 02°52'

Trine chris Sun / colleen Mars - 02°52'

Trine chris Mercury / colleen Mars - 03°21'

Sextile chris Mercury / colleen Saturn - 02°53'

Sextile chris Sun / colleen Saturn - 02°24'

We definitely could not HELP but get involved with each other...but will it last? We clearly can help each other professionally, and we might be great friends but I want more.

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moonstruck87
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posted February 22, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Dreamboat probably has more water placements like cancer-pisces.
I would never describe sag as a dreamy like figure

I'd just say hottie maybe..
Creepy lol maybe with those placements.
more like a douche perhaps?



lmao totally agree

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Odette
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posted February 22, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm I like his chart, but I'm not sure he'd be a dreamboat from your perspective. You're pretty different people.

Maybe if his Moon is Virgo and close to your Sun - that could be better...

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but will it last?

It rarely lasts with young Sagittarius boys and girls.. because they are not looking for something serious.
Are you sure you want it to last?
I am asking because he seems like someone who would annoy you after a while.

I know a guy born in november '88... who is a very early Sagittarius - at 0' deg Sag, similar placements to your guy - since they are probably born in the same yr.

His ex is a Virgo with Leo Mars.. I can't remember her other placements.. but I have to say.. I am very upset with him about the way he behaved towards her. This is one of the reasons I no longer speak to him.
He was extremely uncaring, dismissive - tried to use her to make me jealous - she thought he really liked her again - and he dumped her again (because he only went back to 'dating' her to get my attention).. really stupid immature behaviour... I had huge arguments with him about his behaviour towards this girl.

There are some differences in his chart though - He has a Scorpio Mercury... and his Mars square Saturn is closer.. He also has Moon in Taurus opposite Pluto.
So your Sagittarius probably won't be so toxic... but it's likely he'll still have an inner wh*re.

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posted February 22, 2014 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello butterflymama! Welcome to LL

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
hmm I like his chart, but I'm not sure he'd be a dreamboat from your perspective. You're pretty different people.

Maybe if his Moon is Virgo and close to your Sun - that could be better...


You don't think its a good match? What do you see about us each at a glance? What makes his chart appealing to you?

I don't know his birth time, and I can't ask yet. Any sure fire way to isolate his moon? Moon is his feelings, right? I can't seem to isolate his Lunar aspect from just talking to him. I cannot distinguish it from his venus or his mars. Does that make sense? I dont know what I am looking for when I try to observe what traits are clearly lunar. If I could determine what his lunar traits are, then I'd have a better guess about his MOon sign. Leo and Virgo are very different. I should be able to guess, if I know what to look for.

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello butterflymama! Welcome to LL


Hi! Thanks! I love it here already! I found you guys by searching venus in scorp man, and I read a fantastic, informative thread. It really resounded with what I have observed from the Delightful Douche I am dating.

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posted February 22, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I edited my initial post and added some things.
I don't necessarily think it's a 'bad' match.. but I just didn't like what I saw in the relationship of the Sag guy I mentioned and his Virgo ex.
It really upset me.

But every relationship is different. Wait and see how he behaves.. If he does anything stupid - don't forgive him. Just leave.
Because they don't change.

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butterflymama
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posted February 22, 2014 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
But every relationship is different. Wait and see how he behaves.. If he does anything stupid - don't forgive him. Just leave.
Because they don't change.

I left because I perceived that I was being taken for granted. He still cares for me, was upset by my decision. When I consider what you just told me about your friend, now I wonder if this is the true nature of our pairing. I wonder if he would be just as dismissive and cold with me in the longer term. And yes, he is born in 1988. And yes, I think he has some issues with commitment. I wonder when Sagg's settle down? Much older, I suppose.

I think our Venus in Scorpio is causing this whole attraction, and is out muscling everything else. But I dont know if that is a good thing. It could be romeo and juliet, in a bad way. the death of us.

I wonder what a better fit for me is? My Moon in Gem, Mars in Leo, Venus in Scorp. Going forward, I do think I want a man with Venus in scorp again. I think it is the only way my intensity will be understood.

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posted February 22, 2014 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh* Ok..
The Sag guy I know.. was/is disgustingly nasty and manipulative. This is not typical of Sagittarius.
He had a lot of issues, especially mother issues, that I could only describe as Plutonian.. As I was saying - his Scorpio influence and Moon opposite Pluto and maybe also the Mars square Saturn.. played their part in this.

Initially I said I liked the chart you posted.. because I'm an Aries and generally I've had a positive experience with Leo Moons.. and I tend to like Sags with Sag Mercury. They seem honest and straight-forward to me. Scorpio Venus is also one of my favourite placements. I don't want anything serious or long-term though. It's not important to me at all and this is why I could never have problems with the average Sagittarius.
But my opposite sign - Libra (and sometimes also Virgos with Libra influence) could get very annoyed by the Sagittarian lack of commitment. This is why I think he might not be what you are looking for.

I doubt that he is as bad as the other Sag I knew though.

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posted February 22, 2014 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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wonder what a better fit for me is? My Moon in Gem, Mars in Leo, Venus in Scorp. Going forward, I do think I want a man with Venus in scorp again.

Maybe a Scorpio guy with Gemini Moon - and Scorpio Venus!

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posted February 22, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:

But my opposite sign - Libra (and sometimes also Virgos with Libra influence) could get very annoyed by the Sagittarian lack of commitment. This is why I think he might not be what you are looking for.

Ohhhh, yeah libras and mars aries are no good. I underestimated that. I've read that they can have a fantastic fling, but thats about it. I have a lot of libra in my chart AND I near the cusp of libra, a late virgo. Sept 20th. I never quite recognized myself in descriptions of Virgo.

Dang it. This may NOT be the right guy for me. Sigh...I really like him ;(

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posted February 23, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Mars in Aries will always prefer the "chase" to the capture(Taurus Mars prefers the latter to the former however).

I have Venus in Scorpio forming a semi-sextile with Mars in Libra and though this aspect is said to be "minor", it rings true for me that in relationships, I desire both passion(Mars) and love(Venus).

So, whilst I may suspect that there is a quincunx aspect between his Mars and Venus, I think he wants the same. When things get too humdrum or "easy", there could be some restlessness and the need to "shake things up".

One way to ensure that this restlessness is curbed is to do a lot of physical activities together(including sex). The kind of stuff that involves competitiveness and getting "dirty".

Both Venus and Mars signs are sexual and "tension" is often mistaken for sexual desire and that maybe why they can be drawn to relationship dramas etc.

I have Venus in Scorpio with Mars in Libra and I am the same: I don't just want a mate to be chummy chummy with, but one that will swim the depths of all that is in me; whether vile/beautiful, I want it all.A partner and a "soul" merger.

I once went rock climbing with my boyfriend and when we got at the end of the day, my desire for him was so great, I don't think we got to actually sleep.

Seeing him in the "raw" physical way-like he was sweating at the gym- evoked such strong sexual feelings from me. I had to have him NOW.

So yes,if you activate Venus in Scorpio, you'll have to "bring it".

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posted February 23, 2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

So, whilst I may suspect that there is a quincunx aspect between his Mars and Venus, I think he wants the same. When things get too humdrum or "easy", there could be some restlessness and the need to "shake things up".

quincunx. How would a man compartmentalize a conflicting mars and venus? I guess I have something similar, no? My mars is fire, and my venus is water. Him, the same

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posted February 23, 2014 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To my understanding, and you might need to do a background check, the "quincunx" aspect is a minor aspect between two sign that are 5 signs apart i.e;

Aries-Scorpio
Scorpio-Gemini
Gemini-Capricorn
Capricorn-Leo
Leo-Pisces
Pisces-Libra
Libra-Taurus
Taurus-Sagittarius
Sagittarius-Cancer
Cancer-Aquarius
Aquarius-Virgo
Virgo-Aries

So this energy is very difficult to harness because, as you can see, the two signs concerned have so little in common.

But the energy needs to work as a team and this could end up producing personality idiosyncrasies and some type of unpredictable behavior.

But some matches are "better" than others i.e Aries and Scorpio share the same ruler in traditional astrology and so they should fit slightly better than Sagittarius and Cancer.

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posted February 24, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by butterflymama:

"Sorry, the search function is not activated at this time."

That is the error I get when I follow your directions. Is it just me?


Make sure to pick a sub forum to search. You can't search with no sub forum selected.

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posted February 25, 2014 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflymama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Make sure to pick a sub forum to search. You can't search with no sub forum selected.

I selected several different subforms, a different one each time, thinking that was my problem. I still can't search.

Anyone have any more insight on this guy? I have been all over the internet and read everything I can get my hands on about his mars and venus.

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posted February 25, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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