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Anisa
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posted February 23, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have this aspect(natal)/know anyone with it? Please be detailed

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posted February 23, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Anyone have this aspect(natal)/know anyone with it? Please be detailed

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Libracorn
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posted February 23, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um, I have this aspect and I have to honestly say that the Sun-Neptune square just means that you have problems with accepting the person you are (self-deception). There may be a part of you that you don't express to the outside world. Neptune gives your personality an illusion.

Do you have problems accepting how you are?

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posted February 23, 2014 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect. I think it's a pain in the @ss, personally. But then I'm a Pisces, and my Moon is also square Neptune, so it's particularly annoying for me.

I'll have to think on exactly how the Sun square feels for me, and post again later. My Sun is my chart Ruler, and Neptune rules my Sun, so I think it impacts me a little more than it might others with the aspect?

Anyway, I'll ponder it for a bit. I just wanted to respond to your question before the thread gets buried.

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Doux Rêve
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posted February 24, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The people I've known with that square have a very "lost" vibe - like they're on drugs or zoning out, haha. They seem very elusive, it's hard to understand "who they are" and what they want... Very foggy. You can't really define them, because it's like the "real" them is buried somewhere and not shown to the world or even to themselves. Self-deception? Maybe.

They seem to have troubles with depressive moods / apathy and a lack of motivation or drive; and an overall passive disposition.

They are lovely though, kinda have a calmness to them that can be attractive. But there's sometimes a feeling of... silent suffering, almost. Something tragic in a very quiet way - like they're burying all kinds of feelings and can't get out of their misery, but it's not all that apparent, you have to look close to realize that. It feels like a part of them is missing - or that *they* are missing, as a whole. But I suppose those would be the less positive manifestations.

I think it takes time for them to find who they are or who they want to be, and they can create a lot of misunderstandings around them and *inside* them, before finding out what they want out of life.

They're very sensitive folks though. It's like they don't really "belong" here, you know? Like they're too fragile for this world, almost.

They can be wonderful artists thanks to their refined sensitivity and super developed senses.
They just gotta work on their self-acceptance and self-confidence (something they tend to lack, at least in youth).

Ps. Violets, you are a good example of someone who's managed to use that energy constructively, at least to some extent!

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posted February 24, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect and I actually find the question quite difficult to answer...
There's a part of me that is really lost, for sure. But it's more in the way I relate to the world than within me. It's like I know exactly where I am on the map (Neptune sextile Mercury, trine Moon), but the map isn't the right one and I don't recognize anything around me.
I do agree with the hidden pain part though. Fortunately, I'm not a very deep person and I'm never blue for long (these days more than usual, thank you Pluto).

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posted February 24, 2014 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually really like the Sun-Neptune square. Maybe I'm being fooled by Neptune but I've always found people with this aspect to be very pleasant.

They've all been very kind and gentle and are very compassionate friends. I think they have a tendency to idolize people. From what I've observed they derive more pleasure from living in their fantasy world rather than reality. The ones I've know have been very creative and often make up stories and characters and live vicariously through them. Then tend to have a knack for writing. They can also be forgetful, constantly late for dates, appointments etc. and they take forever to get in touch with - e-mails, calls, meetings (but no matter how long it takes they always reply)

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posted February 24, 2014 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Doux!

I like all of the responses so far, and can identify with them in one way or another.

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Originally posted by meyray:
I actually really like the Sun-Neptune square. Maybe I'm being fooled by Neptune but I've always found people with this aspect to be very pleasant.

They've all been very kind and gentle and are very compassionate friends. I think they have a tendency to idolize people. From what I've observed they derive more pleasure from living in their fantasy world rather than reality. The ones I've know have been very creative and often make up stories and characters and live vicariously through them. Then tend to have a knack for writing. They can also be forgetful, constantly late for dates, appointments etc. and they take forever to get in touch with - e-mails, calls, meetings (but no matter how long it takes they always reply)


This is so true! I started writing stories when I was about six years old, and didn't stop writing until I was in my twenties. Then my self-esteem issues really got in the way, and I was so critical of what I wrote that it seemed pointless.

And yes, I can really lack motivation in many ways. Unless I'm at work (good ol' Cappy Mars in 6th). But otherwise, I have to very carefully plan what I'm going to do the next day, or get accomplished...and sometimes that just doesn't work out, because I just don't feel like doing it.

I'm terrible about responding to emails, but if you message me on Facebook I'll respond pretty quickly.

I do prefer my own little fantasy world to reality, and I was very into escaping the real world when I was younger. Lots of substances, and glamorizing my own suffering.

But I also have a lot of empathy for others who are suffering, so I'm able to do a lot with that. As long as I set good boundaries with people (Saturn in my chart makes sure that happens), I believe I can be very helpful and empathetic without losing my identity in other people's struggles.

I used to be more depressed when I was younger, because...yeah, I did feel very lost, "different", out of place. So I would just sit around and listen to depressing music and daydream a lot, and write. I also paint, but again my insecurities get the best of me with that, more than with writing.

I'm not particularly comfortable with who I am, although I wouldn't want to be anyone else either. It does feel very much like dadoo described, like I'm just in the wrong place, or on the wrong map.

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posted February 24, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
They seem very elusive, it's hard to understand "who they are" and what they want... Very foggy. You can't really define them, because it's like the "real" them is buried somewhere and not shown to the world or even to themselves.

I definitely relate to this. Everyone has layers that they show to different people, of course.
But it does feel as though my Neptune squares really add layers, and layers, and layers...many people will never see much more than one layer, and not necessarily the most superficial layer. It's just that they only see one or two facets of who I am as a whole.

And yeah, even I can't really define that at any given time, but it doesn't bother me too much. I'm not that into defining myself.

A lot of people would be shocked to know many things about me--good and not so great. The way that I appear to other people is often just what I'm willing to show to them, but there's always a lot more there.

It sort of reminds me of looking up at clouds and each person might see something different, a different picture in the clouds.

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posted February 24, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend have this aspect ok tight (I think 2-4 degrees)
His libra sun is square his capricorn neptune..
And we also have it in synastry pretty tight!

He is a very lovely person, who is very creative and has many talents… what he want's to do with his talent can be a bit foggy maybe… he is inspired and curious about a variety of things, but doesn't seem to believe that much in his own talent (or maybe he is just shy, I think more that's it)

But he has a pisces moon, and I think that pisces moon reminds a lot about this aspect in many ways… I have a pisces moon too and we really understand each other:P He is messy like me, confused and very naive:P But endlessly sweet and good-hearted and just so extremely talented!

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posted February 26, 2014 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrientalApples     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf has this aspect too--Sun square Neptune orb at 3 degrees. He seems very lost at times. Has a rich fantasy life especially when it comes to his sexuality ex: porn and sexual dialogue. He's also a very gentle soul and very sensitive. It has taken him and I two years to really connect. We are at a place where he is comfortable revealing aspects of himself that he claims he's not shared with others. He is very tightly contained however. Oh and he has the most wonderful laugh, I love to hear it and he's such a beauty to look at. His eyes are fluid and dreamy...This is all just on the top of my head.

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posted February 26, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Um, I have this aspect and I have to honestly say that the Sun-Neptune square just means that you have problems with accepting the person you are (self-deception). There may be a part of you that you don't express to the outside world. Neptune gives your personality an illusion.

Do you have problems accepting how you are?


This is very true. A lot of times it has to do with the image of the father, expectations by him or how you see yourself in relation to him. Maybe an issue with the masculine energy inside of you.
The opposition brings a similar problem of not really seeing yourself clearly. With the square there can be a sense of confusion in satisfying others.

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posted February 26, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In every astrological case study of Lyme disease, that I have encountered, there is always a sun square or opposite neptune. There was only one case where it did not exist, and only one case where it existed and did not manifest, but was energetically present.
Lyme disease usually involves several other autoimmune diseases as well.
These physical things eventually manifest only when you are out of alignment. They never have to manifest.

I would say to someone with this aspect to really examine the life you dream compared to the life you are living, especially the life you may be living for others.

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posted February 26, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The people I've known with that square have a very "lost" vibe - like they're on drugs or zoning out, haha. They seem very elusive, it's hard to understand "who they are" and what they want... Very foggy. You can't really define them, because it's like the "real" them is buried somewhere and not shown to the world or even to themselves. Self-deception? Maybe.

They seem to have troubles with depressive moods / apathy and a lack of motivation or drive; and an overall passive disposition.

They are lovely though, kinda have a calmness to them that can be attractive. But there's sometimes a feeling of... silent suffering, almost. Something tragic in a very quiet way - like they're burying all kinds of feelings and can't get out of their misery, but it's not all that apparent, you have to look close to realize that. It feels like a part of them is missing - or that *they* are missing, as a whole. But I suppose those would be the less positive manifestations.

I think it takes time for them to find who they are or who they want to be, and they can create a lot of misunderstandings around them and *inside* them, before finding out what they want out of life.

They're very sensitive folks though. It's like they don't really "belong" here, you know? Like they're too fragile for this world, almost.

They can be wonderful artists thanks to their refined sensitivity and super developed senses.
They just gotta work on their self-acceptance and self-confidence (something they tend to lack, at least in youth).

Ps. Violets, you are a good example of someone who's managed to use that energy constructively, at least to some extent!



I have sun, moon and mercury square Neptune and what you just said brought tears to my eyes, so true

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posted February 26, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they make for good actors.
Check it out on astrotheme or astrobank probably most of your favorite have sun-neptune going on.

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posted February 27, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libra5643     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune in first house and neptune square sun. I find the self deception thing very accurate. Its hard to really know yourself. i feel this can also make indecision a lot worse. This aspect can really add procrastination because of not liking reality and trying to escape it. When i was a little kid i used to be kind of addicted to lucid dreaming as my way to escape. I didn't even know i was lucid dreaming until started researching it in my early teens.

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posted February 27, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
+1 to Doux Reve's description.

I have it at 5 degrees, so not very tight but still feels prevalent. I'm apathetic to nearly everything, nothing really surprises me but when I get disappointed or let down I feel it in my soul and it changes me.

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