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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you say that certain aspects/placements make this lifestyle ideal for some people and not others? Do you know any stay at home parents? If so, what are their placements? How about people who aren't interested in this type of thing at all?

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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me personally, when I was younger I always saw my self as a business career woman (SN in Aries in 10th), and for the longest I kept saying that I didn't want kids. Now that I'm a little older (and being more honest with myself) I don't think I could live my life without having kids lol, even looking at my chart I think I could easily be in a profession where I work with kids and I've been highly toying with the idea of changing my major to education.

I have NN, Sun, Venus, and Mercury in 4th, 4th house ruler in 4th, and Mars, Pluto, and Jupiter in 5th as well as 5th house ruler in 5th. And I'm a Cancer Asc.

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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Violets
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posted February 25, 2014 07:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was never interested in that until I had my son, and met the right person to have a child with. I outright scoffed at the idea of marriage and not working as a mother (please don't throw rocks at me).

But I changed my tune after he was born.

My NN is in 4th/5th, squared by both my Sun and Moon, so it's hard for me sometimes.

But I think I'm really making progress towards my NN now, and it makes me happy in ways that I never thought in a million years that it would.

My Sun and Moon are both in intercepted houses/signs, so maybe it just took a while for me to get those out of the way so that I could work on my NN squares...?

Anyway, that's my experience.

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Violets
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posted February 25, 2014 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha, we were typing at the same time. We both have NN in 4th and SN in 10th.

I was a total workaholic before I completely switched gears and became a stay at home mom.

It's taken me a little while to adjust to the change, but I feel much more comfortable and happy with it now, and realize that I personally can't stay at home with my son AND work full time. Too draining. So I had to choose my priority, and it's him.

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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
I was never interested in that until I had my son, and met the right person to have a child with. I outright scoffed at the idea of marriage and not working as a mother (please don't throw rocks at me).

But I changed my tune after he was born.

My NN is in 4th/5th, squared by both my Sun and Moon, so it's hard for me sometimes.

But I think I'm really making progress towards my NN now, and it makes me happy in ways that I never thought in a million years that it would.

My Sun and Moon are both in intercepted houses/signs, so maybe it just took a while for me to get those out of the way so that I could work on my NN squares...?

Anyway, that's my experience.


You're fine haha, I honestly never saw myself that way either until now. Maybe it's our 10th house SN? When I would daydream about my future life, I always saw myself as a business woman in corporate America living a child free life (I even researched getting my tubes tied! o.o). Even though I'm still really young (18) I know now that I would definitely want to be a stay at home mom in about 10-12yrs once I have been married and have traveled and lived life some. For now, my plan is to get my degree(s) and work and save until then.


Edit: I see you pointed out the 10th house SN too lol

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Faith
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posted February 25, 2014 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Me too! Hi girls!

I also have 4H NN/10H SN.

My parents strongly valued education, so I went to private schools, did well, went to a good college, did well...

At age 19 I realized I wanted to have a bunch of kids and stay home with them, but "Hey, that's crazy, no modern woman aspires to that!!!"...

So I finished school, spent some time working a real job, got some other nice job offers, but...

Here I am staying home with my kids and not being able to imagine myself in a corporate setting ever again.

After they grow up, we'll see what happens.


Hey Faith!

My mom is really big into education too lol and shes pretty much made it clear that before I settle down, I should at least have a degree (and have lived and traveled some).

My mom was raised to basically be a wife and stay at home mom by my great grandmother and it wasn't really stressed to her or my aunts the importance of why they needed to go to college. So, since my mom got pregnant with my sister in her first year of college and then got divorced soon after she had me, she decided that she didn't want me or my sister to face the same struggles as she did trying to provide for us. I think my mom would be fine with me being a stay at home mom though so long as I have something to fall back on (if a divorce or something were to happen).

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Kerosene
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posted February 25, 2014 10:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad.

Cancer asc.

Moon/neptune and Nn in the 4th.

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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
My dad.

Cancer asc.

Moon/neptune and Nn in the 4th.


So basically NN in 4th takes the cake for being a stay at home parent lol.

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posted February 25, 2014 11:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a stay at home mom. But not by choice. Cant find a damn job. Its boring. I want to be independent.


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Chiemi
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posted February 25, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Im a stay at home mom. But not by choice. Cant find a damn job. Its boring. I want to be independent.


What placements do you think explain this? What are your placements?

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PixieJane
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posted February 26, 2014 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm one. I was raised in an extended family in which women were expected to stay home when possible, or at least assign a female to do so (even if it's to get a grandmother to take care of the kids). Kids were expected to be independent and yet that didn't include latchkey kids because little kids were expected to do really stupid stuff in learning to be independent while older kids were expected to engage in all sorts of debauchery if there wasn't an adult around to at least poke their nose in once in awhile. If anything mothers who chose to work were seen as selfish. I'm not saying I agree with that just that such is what I grew up in and it helped shaped my character whether or not I embrace or rebel against the concept (in this case I'm neutral).

At the same time I have a NN Cancer, 12th House (btw, Cancer = 4th House, don't know if that means anything here). I generally don't like to think about it. (One astrologer told me this placement made it likely I'd die a political martyr which doesn't appeal to me.) I can make people feel very welcome in my home (my 3H Libra Venus conjunct many others in a stellium help with that) and generally consider homes (and churches, etc) to be respectful to those who live there even if I wouldn't be otherwise. I'm also a lot less tolerant of obnoxiousness within my own home where I might shrug it off otherwise, and I've made it clear to any who live with me that my home is to be a safe place, a sanctuary from the outside world that can be harsh & cruel.

As for kids I got shanghaied so to speak when over a score of volunteers all flaked for a summer reading program, and that was extremely difficult but generated some good karma that followed me through life with a smoking hot reference that got me all sorts of gigs working with kids, and it became something I enjoyed. While I normally didn't want kids of my own (some notable periods of "temporary insanity" not withstanding) I did keep having recurring dreams of a blond boy who was sometimes my little brother (I have no siblings in real life) or my son and I felt I was meant to raise him.

And intense past life recollection that I believed shaped this life also had me dying due in part to deception to two families (marrying 2 different women in different ports, got more involved in piracy just to support both of them while never letting one know about the other) and I sensed the crushing blow my death did to my 2 wives and their kids would be visited on me in this life (I even sensed my best friend who died in my teens which was very traumatic had been one of my wives in that previous life and perhaps that was why we also dabbled in lesbian sex with me playing the part of a guy as if it were completely natural when that wasn't normal for either of us then), and I also felt that was why my childhood contrasted with the relative stability of the somewhat wild yet loving Granny, a cousin, etc, but also forced by a court of law to live in a broken home that was hell, similar to the kind of hell I left the kids in when I died a pirate in a previous life after having taken care of them until then. I knew those kids suffered in that life without me and it haunted me as I wondered how it would manifest in this life (at least before I became agnostic/ignostic about the experience). Maybe that's my NN prodding me (with 6H Cappie Lilith).

In any case I now help raise 2 kids whom I'm protective of and see to it that they can take care of themselves, and I worry a lot for them both, more than I ever worried for myself. I've even tried to convince them to drop out of school for homeschooling and/or unschooling but both are too popular to be willing to do that. Perhaps it's for the best, maybe it will keep my protective nature from getting out of control though I worry about so many things (and also think they'd get a better education and mature faster outside of a public school). I have looked it up and my lessons have been to have some faith and relax how much I want to control things within the home for "the greater good" which can easily backfire. So far I think I'm balancing it well, most of the time anyway, though it's not easy.

But thing is most of my jobs are done at home (I've even had the kids help at times when they wanted extra money) and I could never work in a stifling office anyway. A shop maybe, and I might aspire to get a MLS and become a librarian if I hadn't heard so many bad things librarians have to put up with from library boards who are more interested in building a political rep and/or being an obnoxious busybody than actually helping libraries (and reading in a librarian magazine that such was normal), but I'd never enter the corporate sector...that would be my Sag asserting itself (even without entering that world I ticked off a couple of executives in my time when I overheard their complaining of brown nosing and/or spineless drones and I interrupted them with "what other type of employee would you tolerate?"). Regardless, I do a lot at home and I've always handled most of the domestic (and yard) chores anyway, though I do get out a lot, too (both hobbies and biz). Taking care of kids doesn't feel like giving up much from my PoV, though I'd have found it inconvenient when I was younger and much more restless.

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posted February 26, 2014 01:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Me too! Hi girls!

I also have 4H NN/10H SN.

My parents strongly valued education, so I went to private schools, did well, went to a good college, did well...

At age 19 I realized I wanted to have a bunch of kids and stay home with them, but "Hey, that's crazy, no modern woman aspires to that!!!"...

So I finished school, spent some time working a real job, got some other nice job offers, but...

Here I am staying home with my kids and not being able to imagine myself in a corporate setting ever again.

After they grow up, we'll see what happens.


4th house NN high five, ladies!

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Faith
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posted February 26, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Right! And hi, Violets! Hope your birthday was happy.

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Chiemi
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posted February 27, 2014 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@PJ wow.. seems like 4th house/Cancer NN is the main aspect here. I also didn't know you were a Libra Venus too!

Even though I don't have kids, I can understand the protective nature. It's actually partly why I didn't want kids. I thought that the world was getting a little too crazy to bring another life into and I'd hate to be the super over protective parent (don't think I actually will, but I know I'll worry alot about the safety of my kids and what could possible negatively influence them if that makes sense).

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