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Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 10:32 AM
  
Shows amazing connections, if the solar year is meant to bring you together at the onset of a relationship. The links need to be from both partner's Solars to the other's natal, not just one sided. I only look for conjunctions and oppositions at a closer orbit, like no more that 3 degrees.
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Doux Rêve
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posted February 27, 2014 10:36 AM
O!  I've missed you!
Thanks for creating this thread.
I noticed that as well and was wondering if it was the same for other people.
Looks like there's something to it... 
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Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 10:36 AM
Wow! Orange, thanks for that thread!I was wondering about something like it just yesterday. Amazing how it fitted in your case IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 11:03 AM
In the charts of the guy who has done a bit of haunting my mind, though I think it might stay just that.interesting note I thought in my own SR: Sr Vertex conjunct ASC (0°03)
Sr Moon oppostie Sun (3°35)
Sr Jupiter conjunct Saturn (0°01)
Sr Jupiter trine Juno (0°58)
SR ASC conjunct Vertex (0°04)
Sr ASC conjunct Eros (0°39)
SR DESC conjunct Sun/Moon-mp (0°06)
Sr Pluto widely conjunct Venus (4°38) his own Solar Return this year: SR MC conjunct ASC (303)
Sr IC conjunt aturn (0°23)
Sr IC conjunct Vertex (1°22)
Sr DESC conjunct Venus (2°03)
Sr Vertex conjunct Mercury, DESC-ruler (0°08) Sr Mercury (Desc-ruler) conjunct Neptune, ASC-ruler (0°36)
Sr Venus (int. Desc-ruler) conjunct Venus (2°51)
I`ll be back with the synastry after I made a cup of coffee
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Orange
Knowflake Posts: 2768
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posted February 27, 2014 11:04 AM
Thanks, Ladies IP: Logged |
Orange
Knowflake Posts: 2768
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posted February 27, 2014 11:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In the charts of the guy who has done a bit of haunting my mind, though I think it might stay just that.I`ll be back with the synastry after I made a cup of coffee
Looking forward to it Don't forget to include the asteroid names in the comparison. Shows such interesting "coincidences".
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Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 11:09 AM
Douxie my love, I will email you in a bit IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 11:14 AM
I am not back yet.
However had a look at his solar return on satro.com. as solar fire does not let me include my nameasteroid. lol
so in his SR my name ends up on 21.18 Capricorn somewhat conjunct his SR DESC on 23.53 Capricorn. But maybe MORE importantly
my SR DESC on 20.54 Capricorn (actually my name is precisely conjunct it, too. lol)
my natal Vertex: 21.28 Cancer
my natal Sun/Moon: 21.31 Cap
my natal Eros: 21.00 Cancer
my natal Destinn: 23.15 Cancer
his name in my SR chart: 13.22 Capricorn his name in my ntal Chart: 13.51 Capricorn
Does that mean I was experiencing a "Mr-Sag-return"? 
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Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 11:19 AM
I am amazed at the precision of your aspects though!IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 11:41 AM
Ceri,I am amzed as well.... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 11:42 AM
I find it easier to see the conj/ opp on solar fire, though I use this, which means, no asteroids.I made a mental note though that SR Valentine is exactly conjunct my DESC (since we have been born just a day apart, though diff. year, we have a very similiar SR-chart, and this year we even have our angles conjunct!) My SR - his natal:
....................... SR MC conjunct ASC
SR IC conjunct DESC (0°12)
SR Moon conjunct IC (2°08)
SR Moon opposite Sun (2°34)
SR Moon opposite Moon (0°55)
(Moon rules my 8th and his 5th)
Sr DESC loosely conj. his Venus (4°17)
(Venus is intercepted DESC-ruler)
Sr Vertex conjunct his Mercury (2°18)
(Mercury rules his DESC)
Sr Mercury conjunct his Neptune (0°58)
(my DESC-ruler - his ASC-ruler)
Sr Venus conjuncts his Venus (2°42)
(my 5th ruler - his 7th ruler)
..........................
his perspective
his SR Vertex conjunct my ASC (2°24)
his SR Vertex conjunct my NN (0°39)
his SR Mercury conjunct my Venus/Mars-mp (0°26) his SR Pluto widely conjunct my Venus (4°40 - yes really too wide.  )
his SR Uranus conjunct my IC (3°30)
his SR Jupiter conjunct my SAturn (0°51) his SR ASC conjunct my Vertex (2°18) his Sr Mars conjunct my MC (0°21)
his SR Mars loosely conj. my Pluto (3°37) IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 11:47 AM
btw, forgot to add
you and Mr. SAGGY have the same angles in your respective SR's? Does that repeat every year? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 11:58 AM
looking at the SR synastry of my Mum and Dad in the year of their wedding
noting only the ones I find significant
her SR Venus oppositeh is Moon (0°26)
(that year her SR Venus was conj. her Sun by 2 degrees, too)
her SR Juno conjunct his VErtex (2°09)
hser SR Moon conjunct his DESC (2°33)
her SR Moon opposite his saturn (1°51)
Iher SR Moon also was opposite her own Venus
her SR Saturn opposite his Mercury (0°03)
- might not look like a winner, right? 
However Saturn rules her 7th and 8th house, Merucry rules his 1st house, let´s rethink that winner-loser-thing.
from my Dad`s perspective his Sr Moon conjunct her ASC (0°20) Wow
And her SR Moon was on his DESC
his SR Saturn conjunct her ASC (2°26)
his Sr Saturn conjunct her Uranus (0°06) his SR ASC conjunct her Saturn (4°26)
his Sr Pluto conjunct her Saturn (012)
his SR DESC conjunct her Jupiter (1°27) his Sr Uranus conjunct her Sun (1°08) his Sr Venus opposite her Pluto (3°16) hsi Sr Juptier opposite her Venus (0.11) his Sr Juno conjunct her Jupiter (2°05)
Allow me a moment for
Not all exact aspects, but some are, well, intriguig
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Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 12:02 PM
That's such a great example ^^^^^The Vertex and Angles would be more prominent in the year two people meet for the firt time. The fated moment should be reflected somehow on the SR charts. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 12:09 PM
Orange,
our angles are not precisely aligned though.
my SR ASC: 21°38 Cancer
his Sr ASC: 24°48 Cancer And yes, they seem to be conjunct approximately through the years. I think this might be the reason: We have an age difference of 5 years.
Our birthhours differ about 5 hours, too.
Maybe that could be why.
Interestingly our compospite Moon is on 22 Cap (and Venus on 16 Cap). so yes it does indeed seem important degree, ESP. this year.
"here from?"
I asked him. (and then rectified it only to end up at the time he gave me again. but it is a Psces-ASC, you know these are so quickly moving. lol) I checked for the 26th april (then I will see him as King Artus)
that day
my pr Moon 21°38  Wow, did not expect that though. lol
our tp (monthly ) composite ASC: 22°05 Cancer
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Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 12:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
That's such a great example ^^^^^The Vertex and Angles would be more prominent in the year two people meet for the firt time. The fated moment should be reflected somehow on the SR charts.
Well, we already met for the first time, but the Vertex-action seems to indicate that for both of us this will not be an uneventful life (I am intrigued with my own Vertex-ASC-conjunction especially - even if not with him, something will happen this year).
I looked up the Solar Return for the first meeting (of Mr Sag and me)
my Sr Moon conjunct hsi Ceres exact
my SR Vertex conjunct his Juno (3°18)
my Sr Antivertex conj. his Venus (1°34)
- and yet no traditional relationship took place
my SR SN conjunct his NN (1.23)
my Sr Saturn conjunct his Mars, Jupitr, Amor, his name, and opposite his Eros-my name
(lol maybe the reason why nothing happened, I just put a brake on anything that could have unfolded - and it looks so nice, my name conjunct Eros in his chart. lol)
my Sr ASC conjunct his Mercury (0°18)
my Sr Mercury conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC
my Sr Pluto conjunct his Moon (0°01)
- this is particularly intresting to me, as our first meeting chart had a one degree Moon-Pluto-conjunction! my Sr Jupiter conjunct his Moon, too (1-2 degree) my Sr Pluto conjunct his MC naturally too Interestingly my SR had ASC on 9 Sag, his had ASC on 11 Sag. The first meeting chart had ASC on 10 SAg!
Almost like the meeting was orchestrated. LOL ---------------------------------- his SR ASC conjunct my NN (1°43) his Sr Pluto conjunct my Sun (2°44)
- yes he definitely left his impression
his Sr Neptune conjunct my Moon (2!47)
his Sr Uranus conjunct my Juno (1.53)
-he most certainly was unexpected
his SR Moon conjunct my Chiron (0.48)
his Sr Mars opposite my Venus (1°19
his SR MC conjunct my Pluto (2.51)
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Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 12:49 PM
Looking up my parent`s first meeting chart.Only Vertex, Angles, Sun, MOon, Venus-activation her SR IC conjunct his NN (1°48)
her SR ASC conj. his IC (2°36)
her SR NN conjunct his Vertex (1°50) To be honest, I am not all that flashed. his SR MC conj. her ASC (2°05)
his SR MC conj. her Uranus (0°27) his SR SN conj. her Pluto (2.18) his SN Pluto conj. her Moon (1.19) hs SR ASC coj. her Saturn (1.29)
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Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 12:58 PM
the year my friend got together with her now-husband (they had been friends some years prior to this though, but that was the year she finally surrendered ).
her SR MC conj. his Sun (0.22)
her Sr Moon conj. his Moon (1.20)
her Sr SUn conj. his Juno (0.44)
her Sr Vertex conj. his Pluto (0.31)
her Sr Venus conj. his Pluto (1.23)
(her SR Venus was conj. her natal Venus-Pluto, too) his Sr Vertex loosely on her Sun (4.09) (his Sr ASC were on his natal and her SR Moon within 3 degres) his Sr Juno conj. her MC: 1.22 his Sr MOon conj. her Moon: 2.39 That is intersting, the DW of Moon-Moon, especially since Moon rules her ASC and his DESC. IP: Logged |
Orange
Knowflake Posts: 2768
From: Georgia
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posted February 27, 2014 01:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Looking up my parent`s first meeting chart.
her SR IC conjunct his NN (1°48)
her SR ASC conj. his IC (2°36)
her SR NN conjunct his Vertex (1°50)
his SR MC conj. her ASC (2°05)To be honest, I am not all that flashed.
oh come on now, Ceri..these are great hits IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 01:58 PM
I guess they are not that bad after all. I just was expecting some exact aspects like in your example.On the other hand, maybe 2 degree orb or even 3 degree is still important. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 02:10 PM
I notice several aspects in our SR are similiar to my parent`s ones when they met. Strange.ours
my SR MC conjunct his ASC theirs:
his SR MC conj. her ASC (2°05) -------------
ours:
his SR Vertex conjunct my NN (0°39)
theirs:
her SR NN conjunct his Vertex (1°50)
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ours:
his SR Uranus conjunct my IC (3°30) theirs:
his SR MC conj. her Uranus (0°27) --------------- IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 02:18 PM
is that the SR with Mr. Saggy...?That is such a curious coincidence, the two pairs of SReturns...hmmm IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 27, 2014 02:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
is that the SR with Mr. Saggy...?That is such a curious coincidence, the two pairs of SReturns...hmmm
Yes it is. IP: Logged |
Orange
Knowflake Posts: 2768
From: Georgia
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posted February 27, 2014 02:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I guess they are not that bad after all. I just was expecting some exact aspects like in your example.On the other hand, maybe 2 degree orb or even 3 degree is still important.
These are Angles and Vertexes...conjuntions to them can be at a wider degree, but no more than 3, in my opinion, or it will loose its allure IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 27, 2014 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes it is.
does yours and his show similar pattern? - like similar house emphasis, similar aspects withing each SR
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