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Topic: Aquarians' blind spot
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12103 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 06, 2014 05:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: That just makes no sense. You have odd logic. Both of your last two posts.
Let me ask you this... Suppose My boss asked me to be at work at such and such a time on saturday and I told him I would be there. Now lets suppose I didnt show up on saturday, my boss would be furious wouldn't he? So he would prolly call me up and say "Aquaguy, where the hell are you? You said you would be at work today!!!" What if i responded " soo..words dont mean anything man,you should know that!" I would most likely be fired on the spot. Nobody likes to be lied to, nobody. Everyone always says actions speak louder than words, which is true. Your actions back up your words and determine if you are honest or a liar. Words mean nothing into today's society because people are liars. If people were honest words would be everything and that's the way it should be. IP: Logged |
Polyhemnia Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: How can words mean nothing? Just because the whole world lies, it doesn't mean you have to. It's one thing if you choose to do that. But it's called finding excuses when you choose to justify that. Exactly.
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Kerosene unregistered
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posted March 06, 2014 05:58 PM
Too bad, I don't make promises when I have no attention on delivering.I don't just tell people I love them I'll make them breakfast than tell them.. But I have mars in aries.. along with Gemini Venus It's nice being able show them and tell them beautiful things at the same time. GET ON MY LEVEL HA. IP: Logged |
Polyhemnia Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 05:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Let me ask you this... Suppose My boss asked me to be at work at such and such a time on saturday and I told him I would be there. Now lets suppose I didnt show up on saturday, my boss would be furious wouldn't he? So he would prolly call me up and say "Aquaguy, where the hell are you? You said you would be at work today!!!" What if i responded " soo..words dont mean anything man,you should know that!" I would most likely be fired on the spot. Nobody likes to be lied to, nobody. Everyone always says actions speak louder than words, which is true. Your actions back up your words and determine if you are honest or a liar. Words mean nothing into today's society because people are liars. If people were honest words would be everything and that's the way it should be.
Actions are intended to express what you can't verbally express. Hence why they can speak large volumes compared to what words can express. Words have meaning, however people disregard the importance of words, because they can't express themselves properly. "Mean what you say and say what you mean" that simple quote places a large emphasis on how important words are. There is unfortunately an excessive amount of liars in this world which has ruined the image of verbal communication. Thus resulting in people believing "talk is cheap" IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 unregistered
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posted March 06, 2014 05:59 PM
Your actions and your character speak volumes over your words. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze unregistered
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posted March 06, 2014 06:02 PM
OK look... People are confused. I guess we're saying don't trust words because they are said. Trust them from certain people because their ACTIONS have backed up what they have said in the past. (or you just want to trust them because you are a trusting person, everyone needs a chance or few right?) Clear as mud to all you poor confused Aquas now? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12103 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 06, 2014 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Your actions and your character speak volumes over your words.
But why cant you also be honest with your words too? IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2014 06:03 PM
You can still be an amazing writer and yet still be an @sshole. It's your character and your actions that draw people to want to even spend the money or time reading your s**t. IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2014 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: But why cant you also be honest with your words too?
Build your trust and proof that you are what you say. IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2014 06:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: [b]Your actions and your character speak volumes over your words.
But why cant you also be honest with your words too? [/B][/QUOTE]People can but don't which is why we're telling you what we are right now. We're seeing the same view but from different windows. You're saying, "why not?".. We're saying, "it's simply not that way and never will be 100% of the time, so we follow this rule" but both of us ideally would like the same thing. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12103 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 06, 2014 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: OK look... People are confused. I guess we're saying don't trust words because they are said. Trust them from certain people because their ACTIONS have backed up what they said in the past. (or you just want to trust them because you are a trusting person, everyone needs a chance or few right?) Clear as mud to all you poor confused Aquas now?
But the general attitude of this thread is "people lie, who cares?" That may be true but it doesn't change the fact that people should strive to be honest.when someone lies to me I call them on it, this let's them know I am going to hold them accountable , as they would hold me accountable if I lied to them. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 unregistered
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posted March 06, 2014 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: But the general attitude of this thread is "people lie, who cares?" That may be true but it doesn't change the fact that people should strive to be honest.when someone lies to me I call them on it, this let's them know I am going to hold them accountable , as they would hold me accountable if I lied to them.
If you're a good judge of character you'll already know.
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KingofCups Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 06, 2014 06:13 PM
I feel like we're arguing over the wrong thing. Most of the Aquas here aren't saying that words are more important than actions. On the contrary, I've explicitly stated that actions are in fact more important than words. However, words are still important and should be given importance. If someone lies to me about something, and I believe them, who has done wrong? Me for assuming that what they said was true or them for lying to me? You can't assume that everyone is a liar. A lie here or there is not a bad thing. I've said that as well. People should lie sometimes. Small lies that don't hurt anyone aren't bad. But lies that put other people in bad situations are. Actions speak louder than words, but words speak also. IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2014 06:25 PM
Oh jeez.... OK... I trust barbiegirl19. If she lied I would be upset, even a small lie. I trust that she won't and I trust her words. Her actions back them up and then some. If some nobody lies about something that really doesn't impact me all that much. Well I just avoid them. Haven't you ever seen someone just lie and lie and lie and create lies to cover the lie that you called them out on? Some people will lie... FACT. You can call them out on it all you want and I do, don't get me wrong but some people will just "lie harder" next time. It's just a fact. If my mom says something... I believe her. No matter how outlandish it may seem. Another person, maybe not. There's more dynamic than words vs actions or the two are the same. You have people behind them... Billions of people... That's the point. I'm starting to think Aquas just like to argue. If you can't see that logic then I give up. LOL It's another one of those never reaching a conclusion deals because you have blinders on. I'm going to move on. 
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summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 06, 2014 06:26 PM
The blind spot of aquarians is the inability to process emotions, which is exactly why they place words of great importance because they are not going to be the best at reading your emotional cues.Actions are important but your words are already actions to them that you are a person that can't keep your word. ------------------ http://astrolofting.blogspot.com IP: Logged |
7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 1479 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted March 06, 2014 06:37 PM
Hmm, when it comes to certain Aquarians - that seems to be true (words mean nothing). Some talk for the sake of talking - without communicating. They get stuck on their own words (their truth) - without taking in consideration what the other party has to say. Unless you talk their language (their truth) - they'll act oblivious to what you have to say - while keep babbling their thing. When it comes to work - they get the job done... but "communication - it's like a blind spot for some of them". They talk and talk and talk... but don't seem to be fond of listening - of taking in consideration the other party's point of view. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9188 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 06:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by incognito: They place so much value on words and truth and tell everyone to 'speak the truth' 'be honest' 'mean what you say'. They are so quick to condemn 'liars'. Guess what? No one is honest 100% of the time. People are fake and they lie and that is the way our society is. If you catch someone in an honest moment when you first meet them, that doesn't make them an honest person. Likewise if you catch someone in a lie, it doesn't mean they are necessarily untrustworthy. Its ridiculous that they rely so heavily on a persons words as a means to judge them. They don't realize that talk is cheap and actions speak way louder than words ever could. Words mean nothing.
I can see good reasons to lie, from sparing pain (not that people always should) to otherwise preventing harm (in extreme cases, lots of people would've never escaped the Nazis without some good lies being told), and of course to keep people from learning things that are none of their business. Furthermore, many people DON'T WANT the truth, and sometimes it's best to cater to them. An extreme case was a guy who I knew who gave up on telling his grandmother he's gay as she was dying and she really wanted him to find the "right girl" as she was in denial of him being gay yet also fearing they wouldn't be reunited in Heaven. So in her last desperate days he lied about a woman he might make it work with and that he was attracted to and kept up the fiction until she died (a week or so later), and he didn't lie for himself, he lied for her benefit, because she couldn't handle the truth and he was trying to make her passing easier, and I think he did the right thing. In addition, I don't have any Aquarian placements. Nevertheless, I thought your post was extremely unsympathetic and I disagree with it strongly. And if I find it so then I can understand why Aquarius does, too. Maybe you should try to explain it better, because words DO mean something, and if you can't see that then I think it's you with a blind spot. If words mean nothing then you should shut up (after all, everything you say means nothing anyway)...or better yet go around (and post) speaking utter word salad like street schizos or even idioglottic words like a Pentecostal caught up in the Holy Spirit, at least then you'd be entertaining while "meaning nothing." IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 unregistered
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posted March 06, 2014 07:05 PM
PJ Your response is so Libran! Lol that's what we're known for. All of the little white lies. They're not okay and it's something that myself as a Libra agree and believe. Truth is what will set you free not lies, even if people can't handle them. People deserve the truth regardless of the consequences. You're being very unsympathetic yourself by heavily critizing. Although I do believe the OP could've been less "angry" lol I still agree with what he/she said. It's some Libras that make us all look bad and why people never take us seriously. Beat them don't join them! Live the truth not lies! IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9188 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: PJ Your response is so Libran! Lol that's what we're known for. All of the little white lies. They're not okay and it's something that myself as a Libra agree and believe. Truth is what will set you free not lies, even if people can't handle them. People deserve the truth regardless of the consequences. You're being very unsympathetic yourself by heavily critizing. Although I do believe the OP could've been less "angry" lol I still agree with what he/she said. It's some Libras that make us all look bad and why people never take us seriously. Beat them don't join them! Live the truth not lies!
I don't understand what you said here. You seem to be saying one should tell the truth, consequences be damned (even if that means people suffer and die for it?), but at the same time you say you agree with the OP who believes "words mean nothing" and people should be allowed to lie...and you also find it unsympathetic that I spoke the truth while agreeing with the other person who championed telling lies and being fake which also contradicts your statement that people "deserve" the truth regardless of consequences. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 776 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 07:11 PM
What? What?!!!!Aquas are some of the biggest liars in the zodiac. I'm a Leo sun/Aqua moon so there is an attraction but I can't have a long term partnership with them because of the jealousy, backstabbing and lies. They use and exploit their mates and children terribly. They LIVE lies, not just butt covering. I wish it weren't so but it is. For all their talk, they're some of the biggest hypocrites in the world and can't see that most of the time they're more corrupt than the ones they're always b0tching about. I think I speak for a lot of Leos. That's one opposite that rarely seems to work. If only they were what they seem to be on the surface but the substance is just so rarely there. IP: Logged |
incognito Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 07:15 PM
I didn't say people should be allowed to lie. Don't twist things around. Words can be bull**** . Look how easily you can twist them and spin them like how you are doing now, by telling people what I intended to say. People shouldn't rely so heavily on words but on actions. I agree with Barbie and Deepfreeze and others. Anyway, this thread was helpful. Someone said that aquarians rely on words basically because they are emotionally retarded so they can't rely on much else (except actions-but they don't they love words). That makes sense, they're wired that way. Can't be mad at a parrot for being a parrot. Goodnite everyone. quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I don't understand what you said here. You seem to be saying one should tell the truth, consequences be damned (even if that means people suffer and die for it?), but at the same time you say you agree with the OP who believes "words mean nothing" and people should be allowed to lie...and you also find it unsympathetic that I spoke the truth while admiring that the other person championed telling lies.
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incognito Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by stillatlarge: What? What?!!!!Aquas are some of the biggest liars in the zodiac. I'm a Leo sun/Aqua moon so there is an attraction but I can't have a long term partnership with them because of the jealousy, backstabbing and lies. They use and exploit their mates and children terribly. They LIVE lies, not just butt covering. I wish it weren't so but it is. For all their talk, they're some of the biggest hypocrites in the world and can't see that most of the time they're more corrupt than the ones they're always b0tching about. I think I speak for a lot of Leos. That's one opposite that rarely seems to work. If only they were what they seem to be on the surface but the substance is just so rarely there.
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posted March 06, 2014 07:17 PM
@PixieJane The OP is talking about it in a different context and targeting it to Aquas. We're talking about Aquas here and actions speaking louder than your words. Speaking your words and telling the truth are two different things. People can and do fabricate what they say. What he/she said is what I agree with. You weren't speaking the truth just your own opinion. Opinions are truths now, they're facts? Your opinions are facts now? You seem to really twist words around pretty darn good that's for sure. I wasn't trying to start a fight with you I just couldn't resist because it's pure Libra all that you said. Oh and I guess all of the Holocaust victims would have been caught in an instant if they came to my house. 😐 IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9188 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 07:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by incognito: I didn't say people should be allowed to lie. Don't twist things around. Words can be ******** . Look how easily you can twist them and spin them like how you are doing now, by telling people what I intended to say
I said how it came off to me and that if it wasn't what you meant then you should be clearer. What's tripping me up is that you say people lie and are fake and if Aquarians can't handle that then they're blind which sounds to me like you think it's okay. Then you compound that by saying it's ridiculous to judge people who are caught lying and that "words mean nothing." That sounds like you're saying it's okay to lie. I can agree that actions count more than words and that not everyone is always honest, but you took it beyond that and said people shouldn't be judged if they're caught in a lie and that what you say ("words") don't count. If that's not what you meant then you should be clearer. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1386 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 07:26 PM
This thread is giving me a headache...IP: Logged |