posted March 08, 2014 06:40 PM            

I never gave them much credit, thought they were too fatalistic and I wasn't sold on the whole Chiron-soulmate; Juno-bad sorta thing, but I think in some regards they might be onto something..

posted March 08, 2014 07:20 PM            

Most beautiful and emotional draining relationships..

SATURN OPP CHIRON.. exact.... with no pluto to be seen.

posted March 08, 2014 07:24 PM            

Anyways it's like foreskin..
People who have it won't ever get rid of it because it's awesome..

^ that analogy though.

posted March 08, 2014 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
months of heartache for a few days of bliss.. somehow it doesn't seem like a good deal.

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
It's better to have experienced that love than to not felt it at all

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I used to think so too. Right now I think that it's BS invented to make you feel better about the whole thing, lol.

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I channel all that pain into something constructive cause I'm an artist and that's what we do instead of being emo about the situation.

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Yeah but when you're not an artist and all you can do is be emo for what seems to be ages, then it's really not cool, rofl.

Anyway, on topic:

I was wondering about Magi some time ago, as well. Surely there's something to it, if people use it... Maybe I need to convert myself.

posted March 09, 2014 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:

But interesting enough we both have Venus-Chiron natal exact soooooooooooo.

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posted March 09, 2014 07:56 AM            

The qustion is just, what?
And what of it is fatalistic chattering?

But having said that nope, not fond of Saturn-chiron in transits mself.
Though I have seen it actually work in relationships, ubt I suppose more often it is a fail.

AS for Chiron - yes, I notice it a LOT in love and relationships. But not in the Cinderella-everything-sorts-itself-out-magical kind of way. No fairy dust there.

However, as i have come to interprete Chiron it is a place of very much vulnerability, as if you have no thick skin there. Whatever touches your Chiron, slips under your defences.

Now if in a harmonious Venus aspect, or maybe also Neptune aspect, or Valentine conjunct Chiron, that can be a blissful experience, to be seen in all your "soulful nakedness" and still be loved. Might do wonders to your psyche.

However if a raging Mars is stomping all over your Chiron (in a square for example) or a SAturn coldly asesing all your failings and shortcomings (square, opposition, even quinkunx, actually personally the quinkunx is the most dreadful for me, but that is because of my natal make up), now that can pretty much kill you inside and rip a few new holes into your soul.

(BTW usually SAturn is doing this, because he is jsut so afraid someone could start seeing HIS shortcomings and start rejecting him, just like Daddy or Mommy did so many years ago, and he will take precaution measures to prevent that, so he will be the first one to criticize and judge; but usually underneath a lot of SAturn problems, the basic thing there is, fear.).

posted March 09, 2014 08:16 AM            

1. it is NOT exact - it seems a Chiron-saturn between 2-3 degrees is less serious than one between 0-1

2. many linkages that make for tolerance, good understanding, compassion for the other, especially on the side of the Saturn-person (a lack of compassion is never Chiron´s issue!)
probably it would work better, if Venus, Jupiter or Neptune of the Saturn-person also made some really nice (and tight) aspects to the other person`s Chiron.

I remember the Newman-Woodward synastry where his Saturn was opposite and contraparallel her Chiron, yet they seemed to have loved each other very much.

Well the Saturn-Chiron opposite is on th erealy far end orbwise: 3°21

The Saturn-Chiron contraparallel is closer: 0°23

His Moon was also contraparallel her Chiron - maybe that helped.
and his Jupiter was conjunct her Chiron.

On the other hand in my own files I have the data of a colleague of mine and my Saturn is exactly squaring his Chiron (and probably his MOon, too)

There is nothing to mitigate this (except we count my Moon sextile his Chiron).

Actually it is even exacerbated by the composite, which has a close Sun-Venus-conjunction; howeve this Sun-Venus-conjunction is exactly opposite my Saturn and squaring his Chiron.

"And no, I am really not interested. And did you forget you are married anyway? (Though even if he wasn`T I still woudl not be interested). And could you please stop looking at me with these puppy dog eyes, or alternatively like I just destroyed your world?"

Well, I am sure I am exaggerating and simply a little paranoid, but sometimes it is REALLY awkward being around someone who really pays attention to EVERYTHING you do or don´t do. And even thinking like that makes me feel like the worst person on this world. lol

I don´t like being Saturn in an exact square.
Actually i met someone with whom I shared the same aspect some years ago, and it was almost the same athmosphere or feeling,t hough I wasn´t just as conscious about it, and for most of the 2 years we were in contact did not even realize that he seemed to really like me.

posted March 09, 2014 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
It's better to have experienced that love than to not felt it at all and I channel all that pain into something constructive

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Nawwwwwwwww lookit you being all Scorpionic and Plutonian and everythin'

posted March 09, 2014 09:18 AM            

There's usually at least one harsh Chiron aspect in most synastries, does that mean all these relationships are doomed? Could that explain why so few people are happy together and remain together for a long time?

But I've also seen afflicted Chirons in couples that have remained together for a very long time and are quite happy.
But they have Chirons conjunct (both oppose Uranus) maybe that has to do with it (the conjunct Chirons)?

What about minor aspects like the sesquisquare and semisquare?
Do they have any influence?

A Chiron/Saturn quincunx isn't good news, right?

And what about composite charts?

posted March 09, 2014 09:36 AM            

I didn't care for the website, the materialism seemed to stand out and really turned me off, but Synastry Chart Patterns is of great interest to me.

posted March 09, 2014 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
It's better to have experienced that love than to not felt it at all

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I used to think like that too. However.. I feel like a heroin junkie who went cold turkey and I curse the day I ever discovered the highs.

posted March 09, 2014 06:26 PM            

They advanced a lot of my understanding of astrology. Truly, they rocked! I just wish they had remained more humble because at some point, their knowledge became full of arrogance, and when this happens, deeper knowledge is lost.

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