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Piscesmoongirl
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posted March 08, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscesmoongirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some men have the ability to make women go crazy just by looking or smiling at them. They are drawn to them like a moth to the flame.
These men are charming and have a magnetic personality, as if they hide a sun inside their chest that radiates it's warmth to everyone around them.

I personally know someone with this particular effect on women -including me- and looking at his chart, i think i found the aspects responsible.

He has a grand water trine including Venus, Jupiter and Moon (The Venus-Jupiter is tight, the aspects to Moon are quite wide).

So, what else makes women get drawn to them - astrologically speaking, of course? What aspects or placements in one's natal chart?

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posted March 08, 2014 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
water signs like Cancer and Pisces.

Their so white knight-like and emotionally intelligent which appeals to women.

Most the guys I know that women are so enchanted by are mostly likely Cancer and Pisces.. Or both 0_0

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Odette
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posted March 08, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Libra influence.. mainly Venus in Libra.

2) The noncommittal signs: Sagittarius, Aquarius and Pisces.

And anyone who has narcissistic personality disorder (of any sign)... because they generally dazzle people who don't know them well.

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posted March 08, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Pathological Charmer

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The narcissist is confident that people find him irresistible. His unfailing charm is part of his self-imputed omnipotence. This inane conviction is what makes the narcissist a "pathological charmer". The somatic narcissist and the histrionic flaunt their sex appeal, virility or femininity, sexual prowess, musculature, physique, training, or athletic achievements.

The cerebral narcissist seeks to enchant and entrance his audience with intellectual pyrotechnics. Many narcissists brag about their wealth, health, possessions, collections, spouses, children, personal history, family tree – in short: anything that garners them attention and renders them alluring.

Both types of narcissists firmly believe that being unique, they are entitled to special treatment by others. They deploy their "charm offensives" to manipulate their nearest and dearest (or even complete strangers) and use them as instruments of gratification. Exerting personal magnetism and charisma become ways of asserting control and obviating other people's personal boundaries.



http://samvak.tripod.com/case05.html

PS. I also found that Venus in Aries (Retrograde) is a pretty strong indication of NPD in men. So I guess this could be right up there with Venus in Libra - in terms of being magnetic (although the magnetism is false... because they are actually sick).

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But air signs purposefully charm, using flattery and social graces.
They are not magnetic.. and I'm sure that's what op meant like natural organic charm.

I find libran men tend to be the biggest flatterers.
But a lot of times with me it's WOW CALM DOWN with all of that.. LoL.
Nobody is enchanted by them until they use their charms.

A lot of those male pop stars have libra moon.
Like bieber, austin mahone and some of the one directioners.
But it makes sense because their songs are about telling girls how beautiful and special they are.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatquincunx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would go with a well placed venus and mars.
Better luck with socializing.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in scorpio.

I've known a lot of venus in libra men, and well, meh. They definitely werent charming or dazzling towards women at all, it seemed to manifest more in this severe desire to want a partner at all times and they were often down in the dumps if they didn't have one which is kind of less than attractive.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Manipulation is hard-coded into everyone, using it is either conscious or unconscious.

It does not have to be a female, who notices and is drawn to a guy. I don't like to have any strangers anywhere near me, but when I somehow forget to make an impression, that I'm about to rip everything and everyone apart right about now, strange things happen. I never seek attention, people just happen to get in my way wherever possible.

Recently when i was kind of overloaded with my luggage, a random DUDE just walked by, turned back and opened my car door for me. This is something I would least expect from anyone around here, but it just happened.

Many people have been very forgiving and understanding towards me, out of fear, compassion, or maybe there's something else. But help is something I do not want, from strangers.

Works with women too, but I'm always as cold as ice, in my own dimension, and I ignore every single human being near me. They still react, for women, even grabbing my ass in front of everyone has not been a big deal, as it turns out. It just happens, unexpectedly.

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Odette
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posted March 08, 2014 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kero -- I don't know about flattering but Libra Venus men can be manwh0res.. mainly when they also happen to be good looking.. and because they are such obvious man wh0res they attract women in the exact way - the OP describes.. "like a moth to a flame"..
Some of them also lack character. They would just 'do' anything that walks, as long as it has a pretty smile.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Mars is deep, emotional, very affectionate - and very proactive in keeping up their "end of the bargain".. when the bargain is a romantic relationship.

They are very adult and psychologically attuned - so they don't do stupid, mindless things.

I wouldn't describe my attraction to Scorpio Mars - or other women's attraction "like a moth to a flame" - because I find them very emotionally healing and helpful... like a person who is *there* for you 100%... not like a "flame" that burns you out.

But as always.. it depends on the synastry you have with certain placements.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus, Mars Eros, Leo & Pisces.

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Sun/Mercury conjunct Eros First house.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good looking guy with good looking ascendant and good looking moon. All you need to know right there.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess to attract in that way then, it would have to be an ascendant or MC aspect. I second eros in first house, and positive aspects from pluto or mars to ascendant.

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posted March 08, 2014 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol agreed about Venus in Libra in guys.
It can be a downright awful placement. Those people can't be alone and can come off as really desperate and can make really bad decisions just for the sake of being with someone.

That NPD description Odette posted sounds like Venus/Pluto combined with Leo or Taurus.

I agree that "charming" men usually have some important Moon/Venus/ASC thing going on. But to be really popular and attractive, they gotta have some Pluto connected to their personal planets, especially Moon and Venus (female significators).

Neptune and Uranus prominent can also have an attractive effect (as well as Aqua/Pisces in general).


Odette you seem to have an over-idealized vision of Mars in Scorpio, lol. They're not all that way, trust me.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Lol agreed about Venus in Libra in guys.
It can be a downright awful placement. Those people can't be alone and can come off as really desperate and can make really bad decisions just for the sake of being with someone.

That NPD description Odette posted sounds like Venus/Pluto combined with Leo or Taurus.

I agree that "charming" men usually have some important Moon/Venus/ASC thing going on. But to be really popular and attractive, they gotta have some Pluto connected to their personal planets, especially Moon and Venus (female significators).

Neptune and Uranus prominent can also have an attractive effect (as well as Aqua/Pisces in general).


Odette you seem to have an over-idealized vision of Mars in Scorpio, lol. They're not all that way, trust me.


I think the same could go for Libra venus men, they're not at all that way either My cousin and a few male friends who are very Libran don't have any of the things you mentioned and are very popular. Don't have to do anything and get women. Very good looking and fun.

Anyway to answer the question I'd say libra anything. We are the charmers of the zodiac after all. We do more than dazzle, especially the men.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, everyone with the same placement can't be the same.

I have Venus in Libra so I'm well-acquainted with that energy. It can manifest that way in women as well (the obsession with being in a relationship, fear of being alone). But it doesn't have to (thank goodness).

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posted March 08, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well lucky me my venus isn't there.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think libra is a very overrated placement, mostly brought up on this forum by libras themselves in true to libra vain fashion lmao. I'll give charm to libra but I think dazzling is more in the realm of aquarius, leo, and the outer planets. Magnetism and sex appeal to scorpio and sagittarius.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Lol agreed about Venus in Libra in guys.
It can be a downright awful placement. Those people can't be alone and can come off as really desperate and can make really bad decisions just for the sake of being with someone.

That NPD description Odette posted sounds like Venus/Pluto combined with Leo or Taurus.

I agree that "charming" men usually have some important Moon/Venus/ASC thing going on. But to be really popular and attractive, they gotta have some Pluto connected to their personal planets, especially Moon and Venus (female significators).

Neptune and Uranus prominent can also have an attractive effect (as well as Aqua/Pisces in general).


Odette you seem to have an over-idealized vision of Mars in Scorpio, lol. They're not all that way, trust me.



Funny thing is I have almost everything you mentioned in my chart and I don't dazzle the ladies lol

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posted March 08, 2014 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra overrated? All this forum talks about is Scorpio anything LOLOLOL they're soo overated and the biggest disappointments

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posted March 08, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no need to be judgmental, though.


Everyone is unique regardless of their placements.


Let's keep it fair.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that scorpio is overrated as a sun sign mostly and as an ascendant as well. It's hard to dictate any one placement as being deemed "attractive" when attractiveness is highly subjective and the interplay of different placements in the chart isnt taken into account. Someone who is charming to one person will make another person gag and vice versa lol.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an everything. It's overrated more so than any other sign and I've seen nothing but the opposite in what's said. But besides that I agree with what you said

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posted March 08, 2014 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angel Cara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would Aries Rising, Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cancer Mercury, Leo Venus, Leo Mars, Jupiter Aries, Sagittarius Saturn, Sagittarius Uranus, and Capricorn Neptune be the chart of a dazzler, a bore, or just a regular and averagely popular person?

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posted March 08, 2014 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon trine Venus is true charm

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