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darksoul18
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posted March 09, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born in 1990.

I read a thread about the Pluto in Scorpio and Saturn/Uranus/Neptune in Capricorn generation.

People stated that our generation is going to be "hit" hard. Basically saying that we are going to have it tough. They said that Scorpio and Capricorn energy is very transformative.

I'm basically unsure on what these people were talking about as far as being hit hard (if we haven't already, I definitely feel something transformative going on with me).

What exactly are these people talking about when they said that our generation is/was going to have it tough?

Also, in what ways are our generation transformative?

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posted March 09, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You and me both then. If this is so I would like to know :-)

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posted March 09, 2014 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
You and me both then. If this is so I would like to know :-)

What is your sign?

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posted March 09, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn is sextile to Scorpio, so I think it should be positive, as opposed to negative.

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posted March 09, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
What is your sign?

Aquarius, you?

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posted March 09, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shortly, Pluto in Scorpio generation will "be the souls who, when grown will have the power to usher in a new heaven and a new earth. The ancient evils that have been undercover for so long will be exposed, cleansed and redeemed. The strength so apparent in Scorpio will be recognized as Plutonian power that can act viciously, or if operating at the highest level, the power can redeem and raise levels of consciousness for those who are ready. A tremendous cleansing will take place where politicians and corrupt government is concerned. Corruption is coming to the surface. There will be violence and resistance but nothing will stop the inexorableness of Cosmic Law.
...ego must go and love must take its place. Those who cannot take the heightened vibration will, in mercy, be withdrawn and take an incarnation on a planet of slower vibration.
...each of us should be willing to flow with the tide and not set up resistances against anything that comes. That is necessary so that growth and redemption can occur."
-excerpts from Astrology: A cosmic science

Also I really like the quote for our generation, "We are alone, together."

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posted March 09, 2014 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Aquarius, you?

Gemini

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BellaFenice
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posted March 09, 2014 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing valuable to add...interested in hearing the answer to this question though. 89' child with Cap stellium.

I've personally been hit hard by a Pluto in 1st transit..which is slowly and surely making me transform. Obviously this doesn't answer your question though.

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posted March 09, 2014 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Shortly, Pluto in Scorpio generation will "be the souls who, when grown will have the power to usher in a new heaven and a new earth. The ancient evils that have been undercover for so long will be exposed, cleansed and redeemed. The strength so apparent in Scorpio will be recognized as Plutonian power that can act viciously, or if operating at the highest level, the power can redeem and raise levels of consciousness for those who are ready. A tremendous cleansing will take place where politicians and corrupt government is concerned. Corruption is coming to the surface. There will be violence and resistance but nothing will stop the inexorableness of Cosmic Law.
...ego must go and love must take its place. Those who cannot take the heightened vibration will, in mercy, be withdrawn and take an incarnation on a planet of slower vibration.
...each of us should be willing to flow with the tide and not set up resistances against anything that comes. That is necessary so that growth and redemption can occur."
-excerpts from Astrology: A cosmic science

Also I really like the quote for our generation, "We are alone, together."


Well, of course there will be violence. It's either violence or a change in heart. I don't see a change in heart happening so violence will have to be the answer. It's always been violence though. Sadly...

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posted March 09, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Nothing valuable to add...interested in hearing the answer to this question though. 89' child with Cap stellium.

I've personally been hit hard by a Pluto in 1st transit..which is slowly and surely making me transform. Obviously this doesn't answer your question though.


Thanks for responding . I feel I've been personally hit hard too. I have Pluto in 1st as well.

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posted March 09, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Capricorn is sextile to Scorpio, so I think it should be positive, as opposed to negative.


Yes, positive, but extremely difficult I feel.

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posted March 09, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with everything deepbluesea said, I would also like to add that the pluto in scorpio generation is the generation of individuals truly experiencing in full the transition between technological ages. Just like every other revolution in communications technology, there has been a new era that began afterwards, ie the gutenberg press, telephones, and now the internet which people don't understand how HUGE of a change this is going to be for our future generation and pluto in scorp will have to be the new leaders for this transitional period from the analog to the digital age.

The people from the generations before us for the most part have lived their lives mostly analog, while the generation after us will be born into the digital age and will have less problems adjusting, the pluto in scorpio generation however are the ones caught between that shift and will have to help lead both the young and the old through this transition as we are in the middle of a vast worldwide technological revolution where we have the means to feed every soul on the planet and provide them with healthcare and worldwide communications where all the information you could ever want being a click of the mouse away. From GPS's to 3D printers, to nanotechnology and brain computer interfaces and neuroprosthetics, no longer do we have to fax things, mail something, or goto the library just to find information on a subject. Now that we have all this new technology many things will have to change to catch up and the pluto in scorpio generation will be the ones to tear down the old bureaucratic analog structures and rebuild them to cater to the digital era where a new heaven and a new earth could truly thrive.

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posted March 09, 2014 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you imagine what it would be like in a future where everyone's basic survival needs are taken care of? That is when golden ages begin. When peoples basic survival needs are taken care of they can then focus on the higher level cognitive tasks and leisurely things such as art, science, philosophy, just like in golden ages of the past, I could only imagine what the modern people are capable of when they are taken out of the daily rat race where they are fighting for a share of food and shelter when in reality we have those things in abundance. A lot of things will have to change first, and many things will have to be let go of, as so much progress has been hindered by people trying to horde power and control.

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posted March 09, 2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our generation is called "The commited ones" We're basically the first Aquarian generation who are standing strong to tear down alot of the older Piscean fabrics and change society to bring in the Aquarian age.

- Saturn in Capricorn, Aquarius & Pisces.
- Jupiter, Pluto-Ixion & NN in Scorpio.
- Neptune conjunct Uranus in Capricorn

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posted March 09, 2014 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Scorpio conjunct Jupiter in Scorpio & Quaoar on ascendant.

Moon conjunct Neptune & Uranus in Capricorn H2.

Saturn in Pisces H3.

Nnode in Scorpio conj Atlantis H12
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Sun conjunct Mercury 1st house - Sagittarius/Serpentarius

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posted March 09, 2014 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you are right. The problem is people being power and money hungry. This planet and its' people could do so much better. I fear that the monetary system could get worse as more technological advances come out. Also... ."technological advances" could hold the key to different systems, the question is what futuristic system are we all looking at here? There has always been power struggles and I fear that they won't be relinquished permanently. There has to be some kind of system I understand, but it doesn't have to be based on power and money. Why can't it be based on the good of the planet and it's resources and the people living here? It will take a worldwide consensus which will most likely end in conflict like it has in the past. Not everyone from our generation has the same ideals and some of us are not on the same paths.

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posted March 09, 2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The people born into the "digital age are the first Aquarian generation, born under the Southern Fish - Piscis Austrinis (Formalhaut) who swallows and speaks the water that the water-bearer is pouring, who we won't be under for another 600 years.

Born between 1965's and 1980's you are known as the "The Mellow Ones" - Born in the Aquarian era or the Piscean age, under the two fishes tied together to symbolize the unity of humanity

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posted March 09, 2014 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The people born into the "digital age are the first Aquarian generation, born under the Southern Fish - Piscis Austrinis (Formalhaut) who swallows and speaks the water that the water-bearer is pouring, who we won't be under for another 600 years.

Born between 1965's and 1980's you are known as the "The Mellow Ones" - Born in the Aquarian era or the Piscean age, under the two fishes tied together to symbolize the unity of humanity


Zeitgeist much? Lol

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posted March 09, 2014 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
Yes, you are right. The problem is people being power and money hungry. This planet and its' people could do so much better. I fear that the monetary system could get worse as more technological advances come out. Also... ."technological advances" could hold the key to different systems, the question is what futuristic system are we all looking at here? There has always been power struggles and I fear that they won't be relinquished permanently. There has to be some kind of system I understand, but it doesn't have to be based on power and money. Why can't it be based on the good of the planet and it's resources and the people living here? It will take a worldwide consensus which will most likely end in conflict like it has in the past. Not everyone from our generation has the same ideals and some of us are not on the same paths.


imo Fear etc will come to and end as the younger generation grow into society, and the safety and security of society, and movement and progression of the economy will give us boundaries I;e Saturn - What it means for the countries in poverty though i don't know,world peace through society is ment to be the haven of aquarius

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posted March 09, 2014 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:

imo Fear etc will come to and end as the younger generation grow into society, and the safety and security of society, and movement and progression of the economy will give us boundaries I;e Saturn - What it means for the third world countries though.

You would think so, yes. Actually, *edit*.. You would hope so.

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posted March 09, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
Zeitgeist much? Lol

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posted March 09, 2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've got no idea what zeitgeist means haha.

I'm picking up some sarcasm, or not? lol

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posted March 09, 2014 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
Yes, you are right. The problem is people being power and money hungry. This planet and its' people could do so much better. I fear that the monetary system could get worse as more technological advances come out. Also... ."technological advances" could hold the key to different systems, the question is what futuristic system are we all looking at here? There has always been power struggles and I fear that they won't be relinquished permanently. There has to be some kind of system I understand, but it doesn't have to be based on power and money. Why can't it be based on the good of the planet and it's resources and the people living here? It will take a worldwide consensus which will most likely end in conflict like it has in the past. Not everyone from our generation has the same ideals and some of us are not on the same paths.


It becomes easier in this age as it becomes harder to hide things thus making it harder for corrupt people to hide the things that they are doing. Back in the days where messages were exchanged through mail and business was mostly done in person it was much easier to hide your plans from others. Now we are in the age where everyone has some sort of public entity or representation of themselves on the online public sphere, and every action done online can be traced back to an individual. Only people who are best at covering up their own tracks through encryption, proxies, tor and etc will be able to operate in true secrecy. This makes it much harder for corruption to occur, and it makes it much easier to catch people who are trying to exploit or manipulate even within the same system, for example not all parts of our government work together in harmony, things are kept secrets from one group to another and even within the same system they want to get rid of corruption but the deeper the corruption gets the harder it becomes for those who want to detangle it to do anything about it.

One change that could be made for example, there is no need for "representatives" anymore. We used to have representatives for the people as a republic because it was not feasible for all people in the state to get together and talk about bills and laws so then we vote for a representative whose values and ideals are similar to our own. Well in the digital age there's no need for that, they could easily create an online system where people could vote for bills to be passed as laws themselves. Of course if such a system were to be in effect it would not be as simple as just going online and voting, but a proper system would be easy to create and this alone would remove a lot of the corruption that comes from the congressional system we have today.

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posted March 09, 2014 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:

It becomes easier in this age as it becomes harder to hide things thus making it harder for corrupt people to hide the things that they are doing. Back in the days where messages were exchanged through mail and business was mostly done in person it was much easier to hide your plans from others. Now we are in the age where everyone has some sort of public entity or representation of themselves on the online public sphere, and every action done online can be traced back to an individual. Only people who are best at covering up their own tracks through encryption, proxies, tor and etc will be able to operate in true secrecy. This makes it much harder for corruption to occur, and it makes it much easier to catch people who are trying to exploit or manipulate even within the same system, for example not all parts of our government work together in harmony, things are kept secrets from one group to another and even within the same system they want to get rid of corruption but the deeper the corruption gets the harder it becomes for those who want to detangle it to do anything about it.

One change that could be made for example, there is no need for "representatives" anymore. We used to have representatives for the people as a republic because it was not feasible for all people in the state to get together and talk about bills and laws so then we vote for a representative whose values and ideals are similar to our own. Well in the digital age there's no need for that, they could easily create an online system where people could vote for bills to be passed as laws themselves. Of course if such a system were to be in effect it would not be as simple as just going online and voting, but a proper system would be easy to create and this alone would remove a lot of the corruption that comes from the congressional system we have today.


Even people today are known for corruption. You are right that technology makes it harder to hide in secrecy, but there is still corruption going on, obviously. It can be identified, because corruption leaves behind a pretty profound trail. If representatives were removed then, yes, a lot of shady areas would be removed as well, but at what cost though? Technology alone won't solve this. A set of plans is a start but implementing certain plans is another thing. Technology is controlled through the monetary system and even if everyone on this Earth realizes that technology can be used for the greater good (which it can be used even today) it doesn't mean that it is just going to fall in place so easily. As you stated yourself, that "a certain change could be made". Of course there are certain changes that could be made. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just see more conflict in the future. I'm not saying that we don't have the potential, hell, we've always had the "potential" to create better systems.

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posted March 09, 2014 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Even people today are known for corruption. You are right that technology makes it harder to hide in secrecy, but there is still corruption going on, obviously. It can be identified, because corruption leaves behind a pretty profound trail. If representatives were removed then, yes, a lot of shady areas would be removed as well, but at what cost though? Technology alone won't solve this. A set of plans is a start but implementing certain plans is another thing. Technology is controlled through the monetary system and even if everyone on this Earth realizes that technology can be used for the greater good (which it can be used even today) it doesn't mean that it is just going to fall in place so easily. As you stated yourself, that "a certain change could be made". Of course there are certain changes that could be made. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just see more conflict in the future. I'm not saying that we don't have the potential, hell, we've always had the "potential" to create better systems.

That's really my point, it's not going to be easy and that's what makes a transitional period so hard. In order for changes to be implemented, old structures need to be taken down and put away, which is up to the pluto in scorpio generation to do as they become leaders in society while the older generations who cling to the bureaucratic system that they were so used to begin to go into retirement and die off. There will definitely be conflict and controversy, as there were in the past with other communications technology revolutions, but that's just part of the process.

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